British woman jailed after collecting debt from Thai millionaire

[jwl53]

“I sat in that jail cell for days, not knowing the time of day, 

Only phone in the world without a clock, but still had a camera, hummmm

[Elkski]

Lots of missing info.  But lots of believable things. 

Seems she thought there was justification for collecting debt of more than many of the expats on this forum possess. 

She probably planned additional vacation days after this collection like most business people would do. 

Not hard to imagine the embassy being worthless,and more so depending on the status of the Thai person, unfortunately.  

No one doubts the ease for a wealthy person to get the Bib involved like this.  No one is surprised that you can bribe to keep your phone in jail or to get supplies.   Seems she had a private cell which actually collaborates her story that it is made up charges.  Sounds like she made lots of big and lawyers quite wealthy.    

This is not going to help business investment in Thailand.   

[jwl53]

“I sat in that jail cell for days, not knowing the time of day, 

Only phone in the world without a clock, but still had a camera, hummmm

7 hours ago, lordgrinz said:

 

Among barbarians, yes.

You saying 75% thais are barbarians? They have seats and mandi 

[jwl53]

“I sat in that jail cell for days, not knowing the time of day, 

Only phone in the world without a clock, but still had a camera, hummmm

7 hours ago, lordgrinz said:

 

Among barbarians, yes.

You saying 75% thais are barbarians? They have squats and mandi 

[toho]

8 hours ago, riverhigh said:

Another one of those articles lacking in detail. From the article I have no idea what was the dispute between her and her client. What was the alleged service she provided and did not get paid?

Reading seems to be difficult for you. Read again: does this ring a bell?: "private estate consultant".

[Liverpool Lou]

4 hours ago, OneMoreFarang said:

4 hours ago, Liverpool Lou said:

Anyone can go to any country to try collect what is owed to them by any other individual.   Why wouldn't they be able to do that?

 

I asked AI, here is the summary. To make it easy I called the people Linda and Somchai:

To make it easier and relevant why didn't you ask AI the right question?   There was no indication that the debt collection was anything but a private arrangement of the British woman asking the Thai man for settlement.  Your AI "answer" is referring to legal processes and court actions between the two countries which were not reported in the OP. 

[ikke1959]

RTP and corruption??? Not in Thailand, according to Thai people..Her own mistake.. Millionaires are not for nothing millionaires.. They scam everybody 

[OneMoreFarang]

43 minutes ago, Liverpool Lou said:

To make it easier and relevant why didn't you ask AI the right question?   There was no indication that the debt collection was anything but a private arrangement of the British woman asking the Thai man for settlement.  Your AI "answer" is referring to legal processes and court actions between the two countries which were not reported in the OP. 

30,000 GBP is a lot of money. What do you mean with "private arrangement"?

It seems he doesn't want to pay, for whatever reasons. So, the question if of course what is the legal situation? What legal options does she have to get her money (assuming he actually owes her that money)?

[Liverpool Lou]

32 minutes ago, OneMoreFarang said:

30,000 GBP is a lot of money. What do you mean with "private arrangement"?

"You owe me £30k for that consultancy work". 

"Ok, I'll pay you, come and get it".

 

That's what I mean by a private arrangement, as opposed to legal enforcement.

[BusyB]

6 hours ago, Liverpool Lou said:

En suite.

 

Wouldn't accept anything less! 

 

[BusyB]

4 hours ago, Elkski said:

This is not going to help business investment in Thailand.   

 

I doubt it'll make one satang of difference.

[mstevens]

12 hours ago, phetphet said:

I don't see what's funny about it. How would you feel if in her position?

 

 

Unfortunately, some long-term Thailand expats develop some quite harsh attitudes totally lack in empathy, particularly when the victim is a white woman.

[ukrules]

12 hours ago, theblether said:

Unbelievable part to me? If I had been unfairly jailed I'd be on the first aircraft out of the country, not wandering around various provinces. Reading that, it looks like she is still voluntarily in Thailand?  Truly unbelievable.

So you think she has her passport in her pocket and not kept safely in the court?

[Venom]

Welcome to Thailand!!! 

[hotchilli]

10 hours ago, PopGun said:

Toilet paper is not necessary after using water to clean ones arse, especially when there's plenty of time to drip dry.

I wonder what the Japanese think of Thai squat toilets and a bucket of water... after their heated seats and warm water rinse.. 

[liddelljohn]

If You want to recover a ''debt'' from someone heavy or connected ,you have to be more evil and use some more heavy connections  , especially in Thailand   ,, dont make them lose face  just make them an offer they cant refuse ,and make sure they  really really fear you ,,,That way that wont look for a come back ,,,,,,,   Dont bother  using a lawyer either ....

 

 

[Crash999]

19 hours ago, MangoKorat said:

How would you go about collecting it?

Lawyer. Would have been much cheaper than what she did. 

[lordgrinz]

9 minutes ago, Crash999 said:

Lawyer. Would have been much cheaper than what she did. 

 

I think the lawyer would have cost more, not to mention it might take 10-20 years to get the money back, if ever. In short, they are never getting their money back, it is as good as gone.....just write it off.

[Emdog]

She and/or her company should have hired a Thai consultant to tell them how to approach this problem. Even a first time 2  week visitor would be smart enough to tell western approach not going to fly here, especially when dealing with rich and powerful.

[Caldera]

On 1/28/2025 at 11:04 AM, webfact said:

After her ordeal, the British woman spent some time in Bangkok and other provinces in Thailand according to her post on LinkedIn three weeks ago. She stated that she plans to return to the UK soon.

 

That she decided to stay in Thailand some more after the alleged ordeal doesn't exactly help her credibility, to put it mildly. 

[lordgrinz]

1 minute ago, Caldera said:

 

That she decided to stay in Thailand some more after the alleged ordeal doesn't exactly help her credibility, to put it mildly. 

 

I believe she is stuck here awaiting trial, unless I read it wrong.

[madone]

On 1/28/2025 at 11:19 AM, OneMoreFarang said:

 

What did she expect? That she demands the money and gets the money, and everybody will be happy ever after?

And maybe she was arrested for no reason. Or she was arrested for things she didn't understand or didn't want to understand.

And maybe this post mean absolutely nothing and you are just typing for the sake of typing even though you have nothing to add.

kind of like I just did here, but unironically.

[madone]

all I have to say is that the floor in that prison cell she apparently occupied alone is bloody spotless.

I think it its funny they consider a squat toilet not "proper facilities" what more could she need, shes in jail ffs?

shes lucky there is a low wall for privacy rather than a <deleted>ter in the corner 

 

 

[madone]

17 hours ago, OneMoreFarang said:

 

I asked AI, here is the summary. To make it easy I called the people Linda and Somchai:

Conclusion

While Linda has the right to demand payment from Somchai in Thailand, her ability to enforce that demand through legal means will depend on navigating Thai legal processes and potentially obtaining a local court judgment. Engaging legal expertise familiar with both UK and Thai law would be advisable for effective debt recovery.

 

And here are more details:

https://www.perplexity.ai/search/let-s-say-somchai-is-a-thai-pe-sPAaDbtvS9uu45im6lNnsQ

 

 

yet more proof that it doesn't really matter to you what you post, as long as you are posting

[Liverpool Lou]

On 1/28/2025 at 11:30 AM, ChipButty said:

The cleanest cell I have ever seen in Thailand. 

Nighttime communal cell accommodation is cleaned to that standard every morning by nominated occupants of those cells for inspection prior to being let out for the day after roll call in Klong Prem, and probably most other prisons.

[sikishrory]

In my experience getting a single baht out of a Thai is like trying to get blood from a stone.

However, Thais seem to get baht out of everyone else like magic.

The company should have used an intermediary agent instead of sending some ill-equipped woman who I assume knows about 3 words of Thai to come knocking on some rich, already agitated, Thai mans door.

[Mark Nothing]

In Thailand both private individuals and the police can bring criminal charges against anyone by filing a court case. 

 

She likely stayed in jail until her bail hearing. Each charge will have a predetermined bail amount that the clerks automatically charge to get out of jail.  With multiple charges at guestimated 100,000 baht each it can really add up quick.  Plus expenses of using a lawyer to work it out.  Plus translation fees as all preceedings are in local language. After paying bail she agrees to come to court hearings which can take months or years.

 

The court puts a freeze on her passport with immigration and returns the passport to her.  She would then require a court order signed by a judge to depart country. If she departs country and fails to show up for a court hearing the bail money is forfeited and she will be blacklisted from returning by immigration.

 

The businessman knows the system and played it to his advantage.  If he plays it out to the max she will pay more in legal fees than the alleged debt.

[OneMoreFarang]

2 hours ago, madone said:

 

yet more proof that it doesn't really matter to you what you post, as long as you are posting

Thank you for your insider knowledge. You should be proud of yourself. 

[madone]

1 hour ago, Liverpool Lou said:

Nighttime communal cell accommodation is cleaned to that standard every morning by nominated occupants of those cells for inspection prior to being let out for the day after roll call in Klong Prem, and probably most other prisons.

you somehow mange to make even useful information sound dull and pedantic

[madone]

2 minutes ago, OneMoreFarang said:

Thank you for your insider knowledge. You should be proud of yourself. 

well, I'm not as pleased with myself as you seem to be, but I manage.

 

its plain to see, no inside knowledge required