Trump & Netanyahu Press Conference: U.S. will "take over" and "own" the Gaza Strip.

[billd766]

10 hours ago, tony2times said:

You took one soundbite from the Collective Ethnic Cleansing of the Palestinian People and are trying to show that as proof???

The FACTS are that the Jews Murdered and Stole the Palestinians Land and Homes Committing Massacres against Unarmed Villagers

Just google "Tantura" You will see the Jews gloat about the Massacres themselves and that is just ONE Example of the Heinous crimes they Committed

This is what Wikipedia has to say about Tantura including some photos, and even Israelis were not believed when they tried to spread the news. Tantura was attacked on the night of 22–23 May 1948, Tantura was attacked by the 33rd Battalion of the Alexandroni Brigade part of the Haganah o the Israeli army.

 

However Haganah itself was a proscribed terrorist organisation.

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haganah

 

Haganah (Hebrew: הַהֲגָנָה ha-Haganah, lit. 'The Defense')[a] was the main Zionist paramilitary organization that operated for the Yishuv in the British Mandate for Palestine.[2] It was founded in 1920 to defend the Yishuv's presence in the region, and was formally disbanded in 1948, when it became the core force integrated into the Israel Defense Forces shortly after the Israeli Declaration of Independence.

[Hanaguma]

14 minutes ago, billd766 said:

This is what Wikipedia has to say about Tantura including some photos, and even Israelis were not believed when they tried to spread the news. Tantura was attacked on the night of 22–23 May 1948, Tantura was attacked by the 33rd Battalion of the Alexandroni Brigade part of the Haganah o the Israeli army.

 

However Haganah itself was a proscribed terrorist organisation.

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haganah

 

Haganah (Hebrew: הַהֲגָנָה ha-Haganah, lit. 'The Defense')[a] was the main Zionist paramilitary organization that operated for the Yishuv in the British Mandate for Palestine.[2] It was founded in 1920 to defend the Yishuv's presence in the region, and was formally disbanded in 1948, when it became the core force integrated into the Israel Defense Forces shortly after the Israeli Declaration of Independence.

This happened in the middle of a war. A war started by the Arab League with the express purpose of exterminating every Jew in Israel. And yes, it was wrong. But stuff happens during a war, especially when one side wants to murder everyone on the other. 

[placnx]

On 2/5/2025 at 10:07 AM, Nick Carter icp said:

 

   Saudi Arabia are building the line city just across from Israel , its scheduled to house 9 million people , Palestinians could all move there 

Some of the Gazans could move into the settlements after the settlers have been removed from the West Bank per opinion of the ICJ last July. After they move back to Gaza, Palestinian refugees living in camps in Syria, Lebanon and Jordan could live in the settlement dwellings in the West Bank.

[simple1]

5 hours ago, dinsdale said:

Correct. It's an opening shot but unfortunately those with the "syndrome that cannot be named" have no idea about Trump's negotiation modus operandi. Only thought in the radical liberal left's head is TRUMP BAD.

 

the guy wastes a lot of time either through ignorance or flaming. To have the President of the USA playing flaming games, if that is true, is just pathetic as well as a dangerous game to play in international conflict diplomacy.  

[simple1]

3 hours ago, Peterphuket said:

Where can they go? Very ‘simple', they are originally Arabs so to that area they originally came from.

 

They are located in the original homelands of Arabs. Remember the Jews committed genocide of the Canaanites, on the order of the Jewish G-d to occupy the land now know as Israel.

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arabs

 

The Canaanites were an indigenous group of people in the southern Levant whose annihilation was commanded by God in the Hebrew Bible. This event is often interpreted as genocide. 

[candide]

Trump's aides have already started to backpedal about it.

 

US officials now say Trump only wants to displace Palestinians from Gaza temporarily

https://apnews.com/article/rubio-immigration-guatemala-trump-border-deportation-f928f64eec96b46a880069cbd5580d34

[Nick Carter icp]

2 minutes ago, candide said:

Trump's aides have already started to backpedal about it.

 

US officials now say Trump only wants to displace Palestinians from Gaza temporarily

https://apnews.com/article/rubio-immigration-guatemala-trump-border-deportation-f928f64eec96b46a880069cbd5580d34

 

   They could spend 40 years wandering  around the Sinai ?

[placeholder]

3 hours ago, Peterphuket said:

Where can they go? Very ‘simple', they are originally Arabs so to that area they originally came from.

 

"Genetic studies indicate a genetic affinity between Palestinians and other Levantine populations, as well as other Arab and Semitic groups in the Middle East and North Africa.^[8][9]More recent studies since 2017^[24][25] have found that Palestinians, and other Levantine people, are primarily descended from ancient Levantines present in what is today Israel and Palestine, dating back at least 3700 years.^[26] According to Marc Heber et al, all modern Levantine Arabs descend from Canaanite-like ancestors, whereas later migrations impact on their population ancestry was slight.^[27]"

^{https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Origin_of_the_Palestinians}

[Eric Loh]

1 hour ago, candide said:

Trump's aides have already started to backpedal about it.

 

US officials now say Trump only wants to displace Palestinians from Gaza temporarily

https://apnews.com/article/rubio-immigration-guatemala-trump-border-deportation-f928f64eec96b46a880069cbd5580d34

Soon he will denied he said that. 

[candide]

26 minutes ago, Eric Loh said:

Soon he will denied he said that. 

MAGA posters have already done that in this forum! Have they already receive their instructions or was it on their own initiative? 

[Bkk Brian]

As already mentioned in the thread 

 

"You aim for 100, knowing that landing at 50 is still a success."

 

Trump’s Gaza plan isn’t meant to work, but that’s the point - comment
On the face of it, Trump’s plan for the US to occupy Gaza is not remotely feasible, but that could all be part of the president’s scheme. 

Even Israel, despite its frustration with Hamas, understands the consequences of such a move.

But here’s the thing – Trump probably knows that, too. The former president is not proposing a realistic strategy. He’s making an opening bid in a negotiation.

https://www.jpost.com/opinion/article-840776

[Caldera]

That was a great press conference to watch. I'm sure the good people of Palestine will thrive wherever President Trump will choose to send them, free from the terrors of "home".

[Chomper Higgot]

It’s well past time to stop trying to rationalize Trump’s insanity.

 

25th Amendment now.

 

 

 

[Maybole]

US troops will be used to _{secure a new Trump resort i.ie. Public funds used too enrich Trump's fortune?}

[chercheur888]

Bets are accepted now for the following:

Who will be the 51st state, Canada or Gaza?

 

[Tug]

13 hours ago, dinsdale said:

Correct. It's an opening shot but unfortunately those with the "syndrome that cannot be named" have no idea about Trump's negotiation modus operandi. Only thought in the radical liberal left's head is TRUMP BAD.

Opening shots you say?modus operandi you say?humm as a simple lay person how does picking fights with our allies then this (idea) that is sure to get each and every terrorist organization tens of thousands of recruits going attacking any American target possible?so yea he’s an imbecile just like Rex tillerson and so many other conservative leaders have stated.

[candide]

14 hours ago, dinsdale said:

Correct. It's an opening shot but unfortunately those with the "syndrome that cannot be named" have no idea about Trump's negotiation modus operandi. Only thought in the radical liberal left's head is TRUMP BAD.

 

1 hour ago, Tug said:

Opening shots you say?modus operandi you say?humm as a simple lay person how does picking fights with our allies then this (idea) that is sure to get each and every terrorist organization tens of thousands of recruits going attacking any American target possible?so yea he’s an imbecile just like Rex tillerson and so many other conservative leaders have stated.

Trump's m.o.! 

 

Tell the first B.S. that comes to his mind, make himself ridiculous, and backpedal! 

 

And then his MAGA rubes claim that it's not what he said!

[Patong2021]

13 hours ago, Eric Loh said:

Just curious to know who did Trump negotiate with when he laid out his Gaza takeover plan. 

 

A proposal is a starting point. One does not need to negotiate  first in order to make a proposal for discussion.

 

13 hours ago, placeholder said:

False:

 "The U.S. will take over the Gaza Strip," Trump said in a White House press conference with Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu. "We'll own it ... We have an opportunity to do something that could be phenomenal ... the Riviera of the Middle East."

https://www.npr.org/2025/02/05/nx-s1-5287576/trump-gaza-takeover

 

You interpret according to your bias. I understand it from the perspective of a property/real estate developer with a vision.

The USA will assume project management and control of the project. The intent is to minimize the potential for corruption and for terrorist infrastructure being built back.

What is so wrong in  hoping to give the people a safe and prosperous place to live?

 

12 hours ago, placeholder said:

It's funny. People who support the Trump administrations current actions claim that since voters knew what he said, that means that they support what he's doing now.  Do you and they have some kind of magic wand to tell when he means it and when he doesn't?

As for it being a negotiating position...a position that is sure to antagonize the Arab world? A position that will make it harder to negotiate whatever it is he's looking to gain in the mideast. If it is a negotiating position, and unlike you I don't read Trump's mind, it's a remarkably stupid one. Well, considering the source, maybe not so remarkably.

 

You are projecting your own bias. Trump approached this from his experience and perspective as a project initator and developer. He dreams big. What he has proposed is a working concept. It will be adjusted and modified going forward to reflect the needs and interests of stakeholders.

 

To date, Trump is the only person to come up with a viable concept. No one else, including the Arabs  has offered anything better than building back ugly concrete structures complete with  military dual purpose.  The Europeans and USA are expected to pay for it .  What is the point of repeating past errors?

[NanLaew]

On 2/5/2025 at 2:14 PM, tony2times said:

Many Races have lived there for over 3000 years,before Jews were invented, Egyptians,Greeks,Romans,Phoenicians if we are looking at ownership of land based on who was there first then Jews were not the first race of People there.

It is a dangerous and ignorant argument to make,i'm assuming you're from the USA if that is the case the Native American Indians have every right to Ethnically Cleanse You and Steal your Home

 

I doubt that any Native American Indian would go along with your rather abstruse notion of revenge, but maybe your beloved Iranians would?

[Nick Carter icp]

4 hours ago, Tug said:

that is sure to get each and every terrorist organization tens of thousands of recruits going attacking any American target possible

 

   Which terrorists organisations are those ?

Tens of thousands of imaginary terrorists joining imaginary terrorists groups ?

[placeholder]

5 hours ago, Patong2021 said:

 

You interpret according to your bias. I understand it from the perspective of a property/real estate developer with a vision.

The USA will assume project management and control of the project. The intent is to minimize the potential for corruption and for terrorist infrastructure being built back.

What is so wrong in  hoping to give the people a safe and prosperous place to live?

I understand it according to what Trump actually said as I pointed out earlier. But you keep making things up. 

[scottiejohn]

7 hours ago, Patong2021 said:

What is the point of repeating past errors?

Wouldn't occupying Gaza be exactly that?  

[stevenl]

17 hours ago, candide said:

Trump's aides have already started to backpedal about it.

 

US officials now say Trump only wants to displace Palestinians from Gaza temporarily

https://apnews.com/article/rubio-immigration-guatemala-trump-border-deportation-f928f64eec96b46a880069cbd5580d34

 

15 hours ago, Eric Loh said:

Soon he will denied he said that. 

Trump has denied the backpedaling and restated his intention to remove all Palestinians from Gaza.

[Bkk Brian]

5 minutes ago, stevenl said:

 

Trump has denied the backpedaling and restated his intention to remove all Palestinians from Gaza.

Just a little out of context.. Not surprising from you though

 

 “I hope we can do something where they wouldn’t want to go back.”

“If we can get a beautiful area to resettle people, permanently, in nice homes where they can be happy and not be shot and not be killed and not be knifed to death like what’s happening in Gaza.”

[Eric Loh]

5 minutes ago, stevenl said:

 

Trump has denied the backpedaling and restated his intention to remove all Palestinians from Gaza.

 

10 minutes ago, stevenl said:

 

Trump has denied the backpedaling and restated his intention to remove all Palestinians from Gaza.

Seem his administration is in disarray with his Secretary of State, his top US officials and even own party walk back on his plan. 

[stevenl]

33 minutes ago, Eric Loh said:

 

Seem his administration is in disarray with his Secretary of State, his top US officials and even own party walk back on his plan. 

On Thursday, so after Rubio 's and wh press secretary backpedaling, trump said 

"The Palestinians, people like Chuck Schumer, would have already been resettled in far safer and more beautiful communities, with new and modern homes, in the region. They would actually have a chance to be happy, safe, and free."

[Hanaguma]

1 hour ago, Eric Loh said:

 

Seem his administration is in disarray with his Secretary of State, his top US officials and even own party walk back on his plan. 

Youse guys never seem to learn. Take Trump seriously, but don't take him literally. Look for the message inside the noise, instead of playing the old "faux outrage" card every time he speaks.  He is refreshingly candid, compared to what we lived with the past 4 years. 

[NanLaew]

9 hours ago, Hanaguma said:

Youse guys never seem to learn. Take Trump seriously, but don't take him literally. Look for the message inside the noise, instead of playing the old "faux outrage" card every time he speaks.  He is refreshingly candid, compared to what we lived with the past 4 years. 

 

Solid advice. Those who claim his pre-election comments about stopping wars within hours or days of his inauguration are lies have forgotten the tenor of his rhetoric during his first joust 2016-2020.

 

A lie would be him claiming that he has stopped a war when in reality it is still ongoing.

[NickyLouie]

LOL , gifted to Trump 

 

[Patong2021]

Criticize him all you want, but at least Trump has tried to come up with an option that will treat the arabs  humanely, and to faciliate and support peace and prosperity. The current methods don't work.