BREAKING NEWS Trump Signals Potential Meeting with Putin in Saudi Arabia Amid Ukraine War Talks

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US President Donald Trump has stated that he expects to meet Russian President Vladimir Putin, likely in Saudi Arabia, following a phone call between the two leaders regarding the war in Ukraine. Speaking to reporters at the White House, Trump described the conversation as positive, lasting over an hour, and reiterated his belief that Ukraine’s NATO membership was not practical.  

 

Russia launched its full-scale invasion of Ukraine on February 24, 2022. Trump emphasized that he did not see NATO membership for Ukraine as a viable option, saying, "It would not be practical," and adding that he was "okay" with that assessment. He also expressed confidence that Putin "wants peace" and is eager to see an end to the conflict.  

 

Trump referenced recent comments from US Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth, who suggested that NATO membership for Ukraine was unlikely, and said he believed that assessment was "probably true." While confirming that the US would continue providing aid to Ukraine, he insisted that it must be "secured" and reiterated his desire to bring the war to an end. "We want to end that war, that war is a disaster," Trump said.  

 

Regarding a potential meeting with Putin, Trump stated that it would likely take place in Saudi Arabia in the near future, though he did not provide a specific date. He also mentioned that he currently has no plans to visit Ukraine but did not rule out the possibility of doing so in the future.  

 

The road to what Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky has termed a "just peace" remains uncertain. The Biden administration had been firm in its support for Ukraine, but under the current leadership, the US stance appears to have shifted. Statements from the defense secretary, as well as Trump's remarks, have suggested a more pragmatic approach that may align with Moscow’s interests.  

 

Zelensky has long maintained that "there can be no talks on Ukraine, without Ukraine." However, the direct communication between Trump and Putin indicates that major discussions are happening without Kyiv at the table. Western military aid has been instrumental in preventing Ukraine’s collapse in the early days of the invasion, but despite these efforts, the country is not in control of the negotiations shaping its future.  

 

The fact that the leaders of the two most heavily armed nuclear powers have engaged in what appeared to be a constructive 90-minute conversation could be seen as a step toward peace. Trump and Putin share a notably different rapport compared to Putin’s strained relationship with Trump's predecessor, Joe Biden. For now, tensions appear to have cooled, but the long-term impact remains uncertain.  

 

While the US has taken steps toward negotiations, these developments may ultimately come at Ukraine’s expense. Defense Secretary Hegseth was explicit in outlining Washington’s stance, which largely aligns with Moscow’s interests. There will be no deployment of US troops in Ukraine as part of any future security arrangement, no expectation of Ukraine reclaiming its pre-2014 borders—including Crimea and parts of the Donbas— and no realistic path for Ukraine to join NATO.  

 

These conditions stand in stark contrast to Zelensky’s objectives, further complicating Ukraine’s position. Meanwhile, Russia continues to gain ground on the battlefield, leveraging its numerical superiority to advance deeper into Ukrainian territory. As diplomatic efforts gain momentum, Ukraine finds itself increasingly sidelined in discussions about its own future.

 

Based on a report by BBC News 2025-02-13

 

 

[Chomper Higgot]

He’ll give Putin whatever Putin wants.

[nauseus]

8 hours ago, Chomper Higgot said:

He’ll give Putin whatever Putin wants.

 

So positive, as ever.

[Emdog]

Trump spokespeople have already said that Putin will get land and Ukraine will not join Nato. Giving away all the bargaining chips before even sitting down to negotiate is not wise.

Is Ukraine going to be key player in this?

Trump had that absurd mid east peace plan that Jared cobbled together that did not include Palestinians. Gee, that sure did the trick, didn't it?

This new song and dance cut from the same whole cloth

[Eric Loh]

Nothing on ensuring the security of Ukraine against Russia. NATO membership only means to guarantee Ukraine security. Trump ia not a reliable negotiator for finding an amicable solution. 

[John Drake]

And this is one of the reasons I don't trust Trump, despite the things I've seen DOGE undertake that I like. Trump folds too easily internationally. He did so with China in his first term. And now he's looking incredibly soft by taking up Russian positions on the war in Ukraine. I don't mind reducing US military aid to Ukraine. In fact, the US needs for the Europeans to make Ukraine their project, not America's. But the US needs to stand firm against Putin for no other reason than he is China's foremost ally. In reality, the US needs to focus on East Asia and China and redeploy as much as possible to the Philippines and Japan. The Euros have made clear that they'll not help us in the Pacific, with the Germans, French, and British already moving to accommodate China. So maintain sanctions on Russia and provide some minor material support to Ukraine until Russia loses. But the Europeans need to step up themselves.

[candide]

Trump will show his strength....to Zelinski! 🤣

[Denim]

9 hours ago, Chomper Higgot said:

He’ll give Putin whatever Putin wants.

 

Putin should have talked about Alaska being returned to Russia as well. Might as well strike while the iron is hot.

 

 

 

 

[Bannoi]

Easy to stop the war in just sell Ukraine down the river and give Putin everything he wants.

I hope I'm wrong but I can see it coming.

Then Trump will say see I told you I could stop the war me and Putin are best buddies little realising he's been played.

There has to be an end to the war and the sooner the better.  

It's become fairly obvious Ukraine will lose some territory especially Crimea and Donbas that would be a matter of debate but Putin has no right to tell Ukraine how it should run its internal affairs and he needs to be told NATO membership is for Ukraine and NATO to decide.

It's his stupidity by invading Ukraine that has brought it to this destroyed Russia's and Ukraine's economy and hundreds of thousands dead and injured whereas it could have been handled diplomaticaly before the war.

NATO membership for Ukaine and the threat of inviting any other country that he might invade to join just might stop him in the future.

That way he has both won and lost gained more territory but lost as far as NATO expansion is concerned. 

[Chomper Higgot]

1 hour ago, nauseus said:

 

So positive, as ever.

Putin wants to prevent Ukrainian membership of NATO and to keep the land his forces have illegally captured.

 

Let’s see what Trump offers him.

[UWEB]

30 minutes ago, Denim said:

 

Putin should have talked about Alaska being returned to Russia as well. Might as well strike while the iron is hot.

 

 

 

 

Have read today that Denmark want to buy now California. Good move and welcomed by a lot of people in California as everything is better than Donald Duck.

[Bannoi]

7 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Putin wants to prevent Ukrainian membership of NATO and to keep the land his forces have illegally captured.

 

Let’s see what Trump offers him.

This is from the BBC

 

"Pete Hegseth laid out in crystal clear terms where the US stands on peace for Ukraine, in words that will no doubt be welcomed by Moscow.

No US troops for Ukraine in any future security arrangement.

No likelihood of Ukraine joining NATO.

No realistic possibility of returning to its pre-2014 borders, when Russia occupied and annexed Crimea and backed insurgents in the Donbas."

 

In other words stop the war now and you can keep everything you've already got and wanted. Trump nothing but a Quisling.

 

One thing I do agree with is Europe does need to do more now and think about how it's going to structure it's defence in the future.

[quake]

16 minutes ago, UWEB said:

Have read today that Denmark want to buy now California. Good move and welcomed by a lot of people in California as everything is better than Donald Duck.

 

Well California is the state,  of Fruits and Nuts. 

 

 

 

 

 

[dinsdale]

Interesting to see what will happen. The war will be brought to an end and when it is the Trump haters will need to change tack a bit. Basically Russia will gain territory, Ukraine will lose territory, Ukraine will not be allowed to join NATO, The US will secure Ukraine, Ukraine will pay back their debt to the US in precious metals and the death and carnage will come to an end. Anyone who thinks Putin isn't in a position of bargaining strength has their head firmly stuck up their RS. As it stands Ukraine holds around 400 km² (Kursk) and Russia has taken over 100,000 km² and continues to take more as Ukraine is losing territory previously taken in Kursk.

[scottiejohn]

18 minutes ago, Bannoi said:

Trump nothing but a Quisling.

The so called "great negotiator! Ugh!

[cjinchiangrai]

15 minutes ago, quake said:

 

Well California is the state,  of Fruits and Nuts. 

Also a major supplier of funds to red state deadbeats.

[scottiejohn]

2 minutes ago, dinsdale said:

Interesting to see what will happen. The war will be brought to an end and when it is the Trump haters will need to change tack a bit. Basically Russia will gain territory, Ukraine will lose territory, Ukraine will not be allowed to join NATO, The US will secure Ukraine, Ukraine will pay back their debt to the US in precious metals and the death and carnage will come to an end. Anyone who thinks Putin isn't in a position of bargaining strength has their head firmly stuck up their RS. As it stands Ukraine holds around 400 km² (Kursk) and Russia has taken over 100,000 km² and continues to take more as Ukraine is losing territory previously taken in Kursk.

So Trump agrees that Putin has won the war. 

 

Which European country is next for Putin to invade with Trump's approval!

[Hanaguma]

2 minutes ago, scottiejohn said:

So Trump agrees that Putin has won the war. 

 

Which European country is next for Putin to invade with Trump's approval!

Europe can deal with European problems if they choose. Their combined GDP is ten times that of Russia.  They have just been slack and lazy and depending on Uncle Sugar to look after them. Well, those days are over. 

Meanwhile, the Asia/Pacific region is where the real action is, and the centre of power for the next century. Europe is over. 

[dinsdale]

14 minutes ago, scottiejohn said:

So Trump agrees that Putin has won the war. 

 

Which European country is next for Putin to invade with Trump's approval!

What would you suggest then. The Biden approach and the continuation of the war as Russia gains more and more territory and 100's of thousands/millions more are killed. As for expansionism from Putin that we'll have to wait and see but one things for sure he won't and can't take on NATO. 

[RayC]

4 minutes ago, Hanaguma said:

Europe can deal with European problems if they choose. Their combined GDP is ten times that of Russia.  They have just been slack and lazy and depending on Uncle Sugar to look after them. Well, those days are over. 

Meanwhile, the Asia/Pacific region is where the real action is, and the centre of power for the next century. Europe is over. 

 

In that case, perhaps Europe should move towards aligning its' economic and foreign policy objectives more closely with China and/or India rather than the US.

[AlexRich]

Trump surrenders to Putin, and sells Ukraine down the river. US leadership in the world is over. China will take notice, so now Taiwan is an open door for them. And in a few years we will see war in Europe. 

 

France are no longer the "surrender monkeys", the baton has been passed to the US. 

[Hanaguma]

6 minutes ago, RayC said:

 

In that case, perhaps Europe should move towards aligning its' economic and foreign policy objectives more closely with China and/or India rather than the US.

Up to them, if they see advantage in it. 

[AlexRich]

14 minutes ago, Hanaguma said:

Europe can deal with European problems if they choose. Their combined GDP is ten times that of Russia.  They have just been slack and lazy and depending on Uncle Sugar to look after them. Well, those days are over. 

Meanwhile, the Asia/Pacific region is where the real action is, and the centre of power for the next century. Europe is over. 

 

In the Asia/Pacific space you are on your own against China and Russia. Given how well you handled Vietnam I don't fancy your chances much. 

[Chomper Higgot]

1 hour ago, dinsdale said:

Interesting to see what will happen. The war will be brought to an end and when it is the Trump haters will need to change tack a bit. Basically Russia will gain territory, Ukraine will lose territory, Ukraine will not be allowed to join NATO, The US will secure Ukraine, Ukraine will pay back their debt to the US in precious metals and the death and carnage will come to an end. Anyone who thinks Putin isn't in a position of bargaining strength has their head firmly stuck up their RS. As it stands Ukraine holds around 400 km² (Kursk) and Russia has taken over 100,000 km² and continues to take more as Ukraine is losing territory previously taken in Kursk.

So Trump gives Putin, the aggressor in an illegal war, what he wants and you think this is a point scored against Trump’s critics?!

 

 

[Chomper Higgot]

58 minutes ago, dinsdale said:

What would you suggest then. The Biden approach and the continuation of the war as Russia gains more and more territory and 100's of thousands/millions more are killed. As for expansionism from Putin that we'll have to wait and see but one things for sure he won't and can't take on NATO. 

Putin doesn’t need to take on NATO when Trump is so eager to capitulate to Putin’s illegal war of aggression.

 

 

[Chomper Higgot]

1 hour ago, scottiejohn said:

So Trump agrees that Putin has won the war. 

 

Which European country is next for Putin to invade with Trump's approval!

Well Trump is already approving land grabs elsewhere.

 

 

[dinsdale]

11 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Putin doesn’t need to take on NATO when Trump is so eager to capitulate to Putin’s illegal war of aggression.

 

 

Again I ask you what is the solution then? You seem to think you're pretty smart so tell us. What other way do you think an end to the war could be brought about? Do you think Putin will just hand back all land captured and make it a Zelenskyy victory? Instead of just coming out against anything and everything Trump is doing how about applying some rational thought to your posts. As for the war best to remember who was the POTUS when it started.

[dinsdale]

2 hours ago, Bannoi said:

NATO membership is for Ukraine and NATO to decide.

You seem to be forgetting a major player in this decision.

[Chomper Higgot]

2 minutes ago, dinsdale said:

Again I ask you what is the solution then? You seem to think you're pretty smart so tell us. What other way do you think an end to the war could be brought about? Do you think Putin will just hand back all land captured and make it a Zelenskyy victory? Instead of just coming out against anything and everything Trump is doing how about applying some rational thought to your posts. As for the war best to remember who was the POTUS when it started.

Negotiate between Russia and Ukraine.

 

Not Putin calling his pet (female dog) to do as it’s told.

 

 

[dinsdale]

Just now, Chomper Higgot said:

Negotiate between Russia and Ukraine.

 

Not Putin calling his pet female dog to fo as it’s told.

And who will do the negotiating or haven't you thought this through yet.