Zelinsky: The End Is Near

[jas007]

Well, it gets more interesting by the day. Zelenskyy will supposedly sign onto the mineral deal with Trump on Friday.  And it now looks like Russia wants a partnership with the US to mine Russian metals such as aluminum and the rare earth minerals.  So Russia and the US will be in business to extract minerals, and Ukraine gets to keep what's left of its country.  NATO won't be allowed, not will EU troops, which cannot possibly stand up to Russia without US support, which will be nowhere to be found.  Good deal for everyone but Ukraine. 

[harryviking]

On 2/22/2025 at 3:09 PM, SunnyinBangrak said:

I give him 48 hours. Lucky he squirreled away so much and has villas overseas to live his life in luxury, as a million Ukrainian mothers mourn the senseless death of their kids. It was for nowt.

Fascis!

[steven100]

1 hour ago, oslooskar said:

 

Don't make me laugh. The English-speaking world doesn’t know the first thing about proper spelling. If it did, there wouldn’t be a need for pronunciation keys in every English dictionary.

you said that once already,   why do you have to keep repeating yourself   

[mogandave]

2 hours ago, Purdey said:

America entered a long war in Vietnam because it feared the domino effect of Asia becoming Communist. Thailand was its red line. 

Now, the west sees that Russia wants to own its former East European colonies and America wants to appease Russia. Ukraine was the red line, now it's like a buffet of eat all you can. 

I worry that we are underestimating Russia.

Red lines always remind me of Obama. Boy, he really loved him some Russia, yes? Not as much as Iran, but certainly more than Ukraine, don’t you agree?

[mogandave]

2 hours ago, billd766 said:

The $500billion claimed by Trump has already been fact checked and disproven, and if you believe in anything that Trump says, try backing it up with verifiable facts, if you can.

So how much, $300B, Too funny.

[mogandave]

2 hours ago, jas007 said:

Well, it gets more interesting by the day. Zelenskyy will supposedly sign onto the mineral deal with Trump on Friday.  And it now looks like Russia wants a partnership with the US to mine Russian metals such as aluminum and the rare earth minerals.  So Russia and the US will be in business to extract minerals, and Ukraine gets to keep what's left of its country.  NATO won't be allowed, not will EU troops, which cannot possibly stand up to Russia without US support, which will be nowhere to be found.  Good deal for everyone but Ukraine. 

I heard NATO troops in Ukraine and Ukraine in the EU were both agreed to. 

 

Would you rather have China mining in Russia?

[NoDisplayName]

8 hours ago, Kiwiken said:

Name a War the US won on its own!

 

Grenada, dammit!

 

We whupped that platoon of retired cuban mall cops single-handed, by gum!

 

I know this from personal second-hand experience.  My GF at the time was rotated into and out of the "combat zone" afterwards, along with thousands of other brave soldaten, for a week to "earn" a campaign badge.

 

Too bad she didn't break a nail filing paperwork, could'a earned a purple heart!

 

as a result of American military involvement in Lebanon and Grenada, the various service branches have authorized the largest batch of medals and campaign ribbons since the Vietnam War

https://www.nytimes.com/1983/12/05/us/grenada-and-lebanon-bring-a-rush-of-medals.html

 

 

[jas007]

4 minutes ago, mogandave said:

I heard NATO troops in Ukraine and Ukraine in the EU were both agreed to. 

 

Would you rather have China mining in Russia?

I don't know where you heard that, but mark my words, it's not going to happen.  What remains of Ukraine will be secure because of an ongoing mineral mining operation, with the US and Russia in business together.  

 

I could be wrong, but that's the only thing that makes sense.  That's what will happen.  NATO is almost history and the EU cannot afford a war and does not have the military capacity for a war.  And Trump isn't going to fund any of it. 

[mogandave]

2 minutes ago, jas007 said:

I don't know where you heard that, but mark my words, it's not going to happen.  What remains of Ukraine will be secure because of an ongoing mineral mining operation, with the US and Russia in business together.  

 

I could be wrong, but that's the only thing that makes sense.  That's what will happen.  NATO is almost history and the EU cannot afford a war and does not have the military capacity for a war.  And Trump isn't going to fund any of it. 

You should try reading State Department press releases rather than RawStory.

 

Would you rather have China mining in Russia or not?

[NoDisplayName]

5 hours ago, Paul52 said:

 The plan was never to help Ukraine defeat Russia, just greatly weaken it to the point that the Russian army couldn’t threaten NATO countries for a very long time.

 

That makes no sense.

 

If wee, tiny Ukraine was strong enough to hold back and weaken mighty Russia, then Russia was never a threat to NATO.

[SunnyinBangrak]

2 hours ago, billd766 said:

The $500billion claimed by Trump has already been fact checked and disproven, and if you believe in anything that Trump says, try backing it up with verifiable facts, if you can.

Fact checked by asking Adam Schiff or Maddow? Too funny. Massive fraud is uncovered and you bicker over nickels and dimes?

[NoDisplayName]

3 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

They even preferred Pol Pot to the Vietnamese who saved the remaining Cambodians.

 

They even vetoed all UN resolutions giving the Cambodia seat to the new government for 14 years, preferring that the Khmer Rouge retain the voting rights in the General Assembly.

 

For freedom!

[oslooskar]

1 hour ago, steven100 said:

you said that once already,   why do you have to keep repeating yourself   

 

I have a problem with stuttering.

[NoDisplayName]

3 hours ago, black tabby12345 said:

 

As long as I know of, UK didn't become the stage of land battle(unlike continental Europe).

That's the difference(between WW1 UK and today's Ukraine).

Occasionally being air raided is one thing.

But ongoing army battle on its soil  is another.

 

Didn't the new Russian territories hold referendums and elections while being bombarded by the Kiev nazi apartheid regime?

 

They managed to vote even while being ethnically cleansed.

[NoDisplayName]

27 minutes ago, mogandave said:

I heard NATO troops in Ukraine and Ukraine in the EU were both agreed to. 

 

Would you rather have China mining in Russia?

 

You heard wrong.

 

Russia has said many times Ukraine in the EU is fine.  Ukraine in NATO is not.  That has not changed.

 

As to Euro "peacekeeping" forces, that won't happen.  Camels have noses, and western governments are mostly agreement incapable.  There won't be a Minsk-3.

 

As to China mining in Russia, well, they're already there.  If you mean in the new Russian territories, why not if they have the technology?

[mogandave]

2 minutes ago, NoDisplayName said:

 

You heard wrong.

 

Russia has said many times Ukraine in the EU is fine.  Ukraine in NATO is not.  That has not changed.

 

As to Euro "peacekeeping" forces, that won't happen.  Camels have noses, and western governments are mostly agreement incapable.  There won't be a Minsk-3.

 

As to China mining in Russia, well, they're already there.  If you mean in the new Russian territories, why not if they have the technology?

AlterNet?

[NoDisplayName]

3 minutes ago, mogandave said:

AlterNet?

 

<insert confused emoji>

[mogandave]

2 minutes ago, NoDisplayName said:

 

<insert confused emoji>

<insert hilarity emoji>

[black tabby12345]

26 minutes ago, NoDisplayName said:

 

Didn't the new Russian territories hold referendums and elections while being bombarded by the Kiev nazi apartheid regime?

 

They managed to vote even while being ethnically cleansed.

 

Look like you are talking about "Referendum", intended to forcedly justify the takeover of the robbed land.

 

Even Poo-tin's ally(Kazakhstan）declared it won't recognize such a  Fake Nation(DPR,LPR)  mocked up in Rus occupied area.

 

And no other (proper)nations recognized it either.

Not Even China.

 

Fascist Regime under  in Moscow, looks like pretty isolated.

 

You can easily find out that.

 

Even if internet is strictly censored  your back home, you can easily do it if you are in Thailand.

 

 

[JulesMad]

On 2/22/2025 at 3:17 PM, nomad22 said:

 

I doubt he ever had a soul....or a spine.

like ALL americans in present government... Spine-less, soul-less, heart-less and immoral! May they all fly in planes with just not enough fuel 😎

[frank83628]

Well well well.

 

 

[SunnyinBangrak]

4 minutes ago, frank83628 said:

Well well well.

 

 

The left will never understand the art of the deal. Trump is a master negotiator that makes fools of them every single time. It was obvious he held all the leverage and little Z had no choice. Watch them now studiously ignore their beloved Ukraine boondoggle ending and the hivemind move seamlessly to their next talking point. 

[mogandave]

4 minutes ago, SunnyinBangrak said:

The left will never understand the art of the deal. Trump is a master negotiator that makes fools of them every single time. It was obvious he held all the leverage and little Z had no choice. Watch them now studiously ignore their beloved Ukraine boondoggle ending and the hivemind move seamlessly to their next talking point. 

And European NATO members will put troops in Ukraine to provide security 

[frank83628]

1 minute ago, SunnyinBangrak said:

The left will never understand the art of the deal. Trump is a master negotiator that makes fools of them every single time. It was obvious he held all the leverage and little Z had no choice. Watch them now studiously ignore their beloved Ukraine boondoggle ending and the hivemind move seamlessly to their next talking point. 

Zelensky was used by the Biden admin, MIC, blackrock etc, they gave aid so as to basically steal the country, opened the farm land to be sold to foreign investment, the minerals was all part, Trump just brought it into the open. The East where Russin occupies is rich in minerals, 

[jas007]

2 minutes ago, mogandave said:

And European NATO members will put troops in Ukraine to provide security 

Sorry. That's not going to happen.  They are incapable, they can't afford it, and Russia won't have it.  It'a new world.  The globalists, the warmongers, the Neocons. They're all part of the Big Lie and they are all part of the past.  It's time to move on.  

[mogandave]

6 minutes ago, jas007 said:

Sorry. That's not going to happen.    

For how much?

[NoDisplayName]

56 minutes ago, mogandave said:

And European NATO members will put troops in Ukraine to provide security 

 

Legitimate targets with no article 5 protection?

 

Not a great plan.

[mogandave]

1 minute ago, NoDisplayName said:

 

Legitimate targets with no article 5 protection?

 

Not a great plan.

No one that actually wants Ukraine in NATO. Not one NATO country was willing to put boots on the ground to help them this time.

[NoDisplayName]

4 hours ago, black tabby12345 said:

Fascist Regime

 

You're confusing democratic voting in liberated regions with the nazi apartheid regime without elections.

[riclag]

7 hours ago, jas007 said:

Well, it gets more interesting by the day. Zelenskyy will supposedly sign onto the mineral deal with Trump on Friday.  And it now looks like Russia wants a partnership with the US to mine Russian metals such as aluminum and the rare earth minerals.  So Russia and the US will be in business to extract minerals, and Ukraine gets to keep what's left of its country.  NATO won't be allowed, not will EU troops, which cannot possibly stand up to Russia without US support, which will be nowhere to be found.  Good deal for everyone but Ukraine. 

I gave you a thanks emoji ! I see it another way , Dad comes home and sees  two kids fighting , Dad brokers

the kids to stop fighting,but but Dad,says one kid , no buts ,Dad said  stop this is insane fighting , look at yourselves, look at the house, its a mess.Now both of you shake hands, go clean up everything and get back to living normal.