Death of Gene Hackman and Wife now Investigated as 'Suspicious'

[CharlieH]

 

Authorities in New Mexico are delving into the mysterious deaths of Oscar-winning actor Gene Hackman, his wife Betsy Arakawa, and their dog, which were discovered under suspicious circumstances.

 

The investigation began when a sheriff's deputy found the bodies during a welfare check at their residence. The situation prompted a deeper inquiry due to the peculiar circumstances.

 

According to a search warrant filed at the Santa Fe Magistrate Court, there were no signs of blunt-force trauma, carbon monoxide poisoning, or forced entry. Hackman and Arakawa's bodies suggested a sudden fall, but how remains unclear.

The couple's bodies were found on Wednesday afternoon. Neighbors raised the alarm after noticing the unresponsive couple through a window. Deputies arrived and discovered Hackman, 95, and Arakawa, 64, in separate locations within the house.

 

The front door was ajar when deputies arrived. Inside, Arakawa was found near a space heater in a bathroom with prescription pills nearby. A deputy noted the possibility of the space heater falling due to her abrupt collapse.

Hackman was found near the kitchen, with a walking cane and sunglasses close by. The deceased German shepherd was found in a bathroom closet, compounding the investigation's complexity.

 

The state Office of the Medical Investigator will determine the official cause of death, and the case remains open, with ongoing investigations by the Sheriff's Office to uncover the truth behind these puzzling deaths.

 

Based on report from Yahoo News.

 

 

[steven100]

Could have been suicide by poisoning of some sort,  maybe pills or similar. 

And it appears they wanted the dog to go out with them ,  so the dog was done first,  then Gene Hackman and the wife together ?   

or was it a robbery made to look like suicide ?  we all know Mexico can be a dangerous place with cartels etc..

[BritManToo]

15 minutes ago, steven100 said:

Could have been suicide by poisoning of some sort,  maybe pills or similar. 

And it appears they wanted the dog to go out with them ,  so the dog was done first,  then Gene Hackman and the wife together ?   

or was it a robbery made to look like suicide ?  we all know Mexico can be a dangerous place with cartels etc..

Suicide is normally done together, dog in closet, women in bathroom, man in another room = not suicide.

[CharlieH]

4 minutes ago, BritManToo said:

Suicide is normally done together, dog in closet, women in bathroom, man in another room = not suicide.

Seems the dog and wife dead for days ? Something not right and in different rooms, doesn't seem like anything "arranged" like a suicide pact. The GSD in a closest is suspicious on its own, someone clearly needed to neutralise the dog.

[Andrew Dwyer]

15 minutes ago, steven100 said:

Could have been suicide by poisoning of some sort,  maybe pills or similar. 

And it appears they wanted the dog to go out with them ,  so the dog was done first,  then Gene Hackman and the wife together ?   

or was it a robbery made to look like suicide ?  we all know Mexico can be a dangerous place with cartels etc..

New Mexico and Mexico are not the same !

[fredwiggy]

16 minutes ago, steven100 said:

Could have been suicide by poisoning of some sort,  maybe pills or similar. 

And it appears they wanted the dog to go out with them ,  so the dog was done first,  then Gene Hackman and the wife together ?   

or was it a robbery made to look like suicide ?  we all know Mexico can be a dangerous place with cartels etc..

New Mexico isn't Mexico. If it's a robbery how did they die if there isn't any trauma to the bodies? A robbery would show some evidence I'm sure.

[Andrew Dwyer]

1 minute ago, CharlieH said:

Seems the dog and wife dead for days ? Something not right and in different rooms, doesn't seem like anything "arranged" like a suicide pact. The GSD in a closest is suspicious on its own, someone clearly needed to that neutralise the dog.

Seems like both GH and his wife had similar time of death.

 

From the BBC:

A sheriff's detective who responded to the scene said that they believed the couple had been dead for some time because of Ms Arakawa's "decomposition" and "mummification" in the hands and feet.

"The male decedent also showed obvious signs of death, similar and consistent with the female decedent," said the search warrant.

[fredwiggy]

10 minutes ago, CharlieH said:

Seems the dog and wife dead for days ? Something not right and in different rooms, doesn't seem like anything "arranged" like a suicide pact. The GSD in a closest is suspicious on its own, someone clearly needed to neutralise the dog.

The only thing I would think at this point is Gene died and the wife took pills to go with him, giving them to the dog also, part of the family, so they would go together. Time will tell with an autopsy.

[steven100]

2 minutes ago, Andrew Dwyer said:

New Mexico and Mexico are not the same !

ok,  so it shares it's border with Sorona which is Mexico but New Mexico is actually in the US. 

[steven100]

[frank83628]

2 hours ago, steven100 said:

Could have been suicide by poisoning of some sort,  maybe pills or similar. 

And it appears they wanted the dog to go out with them ,  so the dog was done first,  then Gene Hackman and the wife together ?   

or was it a robbery made to look like suicide ?  we all know Mexico can be a dangerous place with cartels etc..

Yeah, lets not speculate or come up with wild theories aye

[BritManToo]

2 hours ago, fredwiggy said:

The only thing I would think at this point is Gene died and the wife took pills to go with him, giving them to the dog also, part of the family, so they would go together. Time will tell with an autopsy.

3 dogs, 1 (guard dog?) dead in the closet, 2 wandering around the house and grounds (front door open).

[Harrisfan]

23 minutes ago, frank83628 said:

Yeah, lets not speculate or come up with wild theories aye

You want facts on the internet from Chang fans? 

[Harrisfan]

2 hours ago, steven100 said:

Could have been suicide by poisoning of some sort,  maybe pills or similar. 

And it appears they wanted the dog to go out with them ,  so the dog was done first,  then Gene Hackman and the wife together ?   

or was it a robbery made to look like suicide ?  we all know Mexico can be a dangerous place with cartels etc..

Lucky you are not a detective.

[billd766]

4 hours ago, steven100 said:

Could have been suicide by poisoning of some sort,  maybe pills or similar. 

And it appears they wanted the dog to go out with them ,  so the dog was done first,  then Gene Hackman and the wife together ?   

or was it a robbery made to look like suicide ?  we all know Mexico can be a dangerous place with cartels etc..

Many people also know the difference between New Mexico, which is a state in the Southwestern region of the United States, and Mexico which is a country outside of the USA.

 

You seem to be jumping to conclusions once again. If the Santa Fe police deputies don't know yet, and they are actually at the scene, why are you making assumptions based on nothing? Why not let the police do their job which is what they are paid for, and then accept their conclusion based on evidence, rather than your guesswork?

[spidermike007]

5 hours ago, steven100 said:

Could have been suicide by poisoning of some sort,  maybe pills or similar. 

And it appears they wanted the dog to go out with them ,  so the dog was done first,  then Gene Hackman and the wife together ?   

or was it a robbery made to look like suicide ?  we all know Mexico can be a dangerous place with cartels etc..

This is not Mexico this is New Mexico, and if you hadn't realized it it's an entirely different country. And I don't not think New Mexico is considered to be a dangerous place. 

 

Hackman has appeared to be quite frail for some time, and there is always a possibility that is wife was so distraught over it, and he had had enough, and that it was just a planned family suicide. 

 

If I was 95 years old and in bad shape I'd probably be looking for a way out too. 

[tjintx]

4 hours ago, Andrew Dwyer said:

New Mexico and Mexico are not the same !

Mexico is safer for one.

[steven100]

1 hour ago, billd766 said:

Many people also know the difference between New Mexico, which is a state in the Southwestern region of the United States, and Mexico which is a country outside of the USA.

 

You seem to be jumping to conclusions once again. If the Santa Fe police deputies don't know yet, and they are actually at the scene, why are you making assumptions based on nothing? Why not let the police do their job which is what they are paid for, and then accept their conclusion based on evidence, rather than your guesswork?

 

Please refer to my post up higher which shows a map of New Mexico in case you don't know,   also .... as I am aware of suicide deaths like this, one can speculate what could or is possible ...  anyway,  for now lets let the local sheriff & deputy do his work and we'll see what the results are later .... if they match mine then I'm a good keyboard detective with the mind of Columbo or Kojak ....   

[steven100]

50 minutes ago, spidermike007 said:

This is not Mexico this is New Mexico, and if you hadn't realized it it's an entirely different country. And I don't not think New Mexico is considered to be a dangerous place. 

 

Hackman has appeared to be quite frail for some time, and there is always a possibility that is wife was so distraught over it, and he had had enough, and that it was just a planned family suicide. 

 

If I was 95 years old and in bad shape I'd probably be looking for a way out too. 

To be honest ...  95 is a pretty good innings   

[spidermike007]

8 minutes ago, steven100 said:

To be honest ...  95 is a pretty good innings   

True story. 

 

30s is too soon. Dying in your 30's is tragic. As is the 40s

Sympathy dissapates from there. 50s is such a shame 

60s is too soon 

70s is a good run 

80s is a life well lived

90s - is a fricking hell of a ride

    

[JonnyF]

5 hours ago, CharlieH said:

Seems the dog and wife dead for days ? Something not right and in different rooms, doesn't seem like anything "arranged" like a suicide pact. The GSD in a closest is suspicious on its own, someone clearly needed to neutralise the dog.

 

Dogs will quite often crawl into a small place like a closet to die.

 

Of course, if the door was shut behind it that would be strange. 

 

I'm still thinking some type of poisoning. 

[newbee2022]

In another foreign blog it was called "suicide".

[Purdey]

Yesterday the deaths were not suspicious. Today they are. Lots of amateur detectives on AN but we just have to wait for the results of the inquest.

[Paul Henry]

The story of the discovery vary the Sheriff stated that a Pest Controller visited the house and thought something was not right and called a security guard  who discovered the bodies.Amazing how reporting varies this article says the neighbours saw the bodies though a window and the deputies found them after a wellfare check.

[WDSmart]

I predict it will be a suicide pact between Hackman and his wife and the killing of their dog. 

[KhunLA]

59 minutes ago, WDSmart said:

I predict it will be a suicide pact between Hackman and his wife and the killing of their dog. 

Doubtful as they weren't even in the same room.  She, supposedly in the bathroom on floor, and he was elsewhere, on floor with cane nearby, from one news-blip, quoting sheriff's dept.

 

1 dog dead, in a kennel, inside, and 2 other dogs outside, so a bit strange if suicide.

[rough diamond]

Why do you armchair detectives sit there with fingers on keyboards speculate about something when there are conflicting and insufficient verified facts to go on?

 

[brewsterbudgen]

42 minutes ago, rough diamond said:

Why do you armchair detectives sit there with fingers on keyboards speculate about something when there are conflicting and insufficient verified facts to go on?

 

Human nature. And what Forums like this are for.

[rough diamond]

55 minutes ago, brewsterbudgen said:

Human nature. And what Forums like this are for.

Unfortunately that is so for some!

[Harrisfan]

3 hours ago, rough diamond said:

Why do you armchair detectives sit there with fingers on keyboards speculate about something when there are conflicting and insufficient verified facts to go on?

 

You joined a week ago. Expert on everything.