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Is it possible Trump is trying to sabotage the world economy?

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On 3/8/2025 at 6:57 PM, MicroB said:

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Oh no! These are fictitious?

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On 3/9/2025 at 7:28 AM, thaibeachlovers said:

IMO the western world was doomed the minute it didn't mock relentlessly the idea that more than 2 genders existed or that a man could be a real girl. Not because of them per se, but because it proved that insane ideas can be treated as acceptable by the sheeple. An insane society will not survive for too long.

Brilliant

 

On 3/9/2025 at 7:28 AM, thaibeachlovers said:

In any event, we have polluted the planet to the point the environmental catastrophe we will have was created entirely and wholly by ourselves, and we deserve to suffer for it.

Then that. The end is nigh. Consider that to be an endless mock of environmental doom.

17 hours ago, Cameroni said:

 

If you think about it talking about Haitians eating cats and dogs was genius. Had he campaigned on "I'll get rid of thousands of jobs to eliminate waste and corruption because I don't care anymore, it's  my last term", would he have been elected? However, talking about eating cats and dogs changed the topic, right? So now people like you can laugh about eating cats and dogs, Trumps laughs about being in the White House. Do you now see the importance of strategy?

He knows how deranged the opposition is so he says things to get them in a spittlefrothing frenzy....almost like a hagfish just spewing slime everywhere while flopping and writhing.

 

Come to think of it...that happens here. Post something like "gas prices are down" and the slimy mucous starts flying from the distended mouths.

18 hours ago, worgeordie said:

He does not know what he's doing ,so how do you expect me to

know what he has planned for the World .......but it won't be good.

 

regards worgeordie

Inform us as to the last US president that gave the world peace and prosperity.

I won't hold my breath waiting.

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21 hours ago, Cameroni said:

 

The US economy has survived:

 

1. World War 1

 

2. The GREAT depression

 

3. World War 2

 

4.  The Korean and Vietnam wars

 

5. The Saudi Oil shocks

 

6. The Russian Debt crisis

 

7. The Asia financial crisis

 

8. The Sub-Prime Mortgage financial crisis

 

9. Feminism

 

10. LGTBQ

 

11. Falling birth rates

 

And the US economy will damn sure survive a few tariffs. Don't worry people. This is just lefties trying to spread malcontent. As usual.

 

21 hours ago, Cameroni said:

 

The US economy has survived:

 

1. World War 1

 

2. The GREAT depression

 

3. World War 2

 

4.  The Korean and Vietnam wars

 

5. The Saudi Oil shocks

 

6. The Russian Debt crisis

 

7. The Asia financial crisis

 

8. The Sub-Prime Mortgage financial crisis

 

9. Feminism

 

10. LGTBQ

 

11. Falling birth rates

 

And the US economy will damn sure survive a few tariffs. Don't worry people. This is just lefties trying to spread malcontent. As usual.

Such nonsense, the US is Canada's largest trading partner, can you imagine the US having to pay 25% tariffs on every good imported from Canada?

 

Without Canada, Mexico and China the US would cease to exist as a nation, it would not survive. 

 

Trump is overreaching to a huge degree with his tariffs and his threats, and this simpleton is hellbent on destroying the US economy and perhaps taking the world down with him.

 

He needs to be stopped. ASAP. 

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Shortly before the last election, Scott Bessent, now Donald Trump’s Treasury secretary, assured The Financial Times that Trump had no interest in reducing international trade and that his threats to impose sweeping, 20 percent tariffs on foreign goods were simply a “maximalist” negotiating position to be watered down during trade talks. “My general view is that at the end of the day, he’s a free trader,” said Bessent.

 

A few weeks later, CNN’s Kaitlan Collins asked Howard Lutnick, now Trump’s commerce secretary, whether Robert F. Kennedy Jr. could become secretary of health and human services. “Of course not,” said Lutnick, treating the question as if it were absurd.

 

During the transition, Senator Thom Tillis, Republican of North Carolina, acted indignant when Democrats asked Pam Bondi, now Trump’s attorney general, if she and the president-elect might consider blanket pardons for Jan. 6 insurrectionists. “I was the last member out of the Senate on Jan. 6,” said Tillis. “I walked past a lot of law enforcement officers who were injured. I find it hard to believe that the president of the United States, or you, would look at facts that were used to convict the violent people on Jan. 6 and say it was just an intemperate moment.”

 

Just last month, Representative Dan Crenshaw of Texas, who is both a Trump apologist and a supporter of Ukraine, insisted that when Trump trashes Ukraine’s president, Volodymyr Zelensky, it’s actually a sign of affection. “Trump tends to talk that way to his friends,” said Crenshaw. “He tends to talk nicer to his enemies. So if he’s talking to you that way, it still means you’re his friend.”

 

Some of these men may have been deliberately dishonest, but I suspect there’s also a degree of self-deception at work here. In the four years Trump was out of office, an eerie amnesia about his erratic rule settled over the country, allowing people to project onto him hopes that were utterly untethered from reality. You might call this phenomenon, to appropriate a phrase, Trump derangement syndrome.

 

truly believe that America’s capitalist system rewards merit rather than audacity and grift, the riches Trump has extracted from his office imply a measure of genius. He keeps winning. Surely he must know what he’s doing?

 

It should be obvious, however, that extraordinary skill as a demagogue does not necessarily translate to wisdom as a ruler. If Trump’s lickspittles refuse to see that, it could be because facing up to reality — that they are party to the deconstruction of a once-great superpower — is at once shameful and frightening. Far easier to invent a Trump who isn’t there, a canny savant whose policy lurches are driven by some unseen strategic logic.

 

Speaking at the New York Times DealBook summit in December, Amazon founder Jeff Bezos said Trump had grown over the past eight years. “What I’ve seen so far is he is calmer than he was the first time — more confident, more settled,” Bezos said. Sounds like Trump derangement syndrome to me.

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10 hours ago, Cameroni said:

Of course.

 

Pity and compassion. The left, the perverted, the broken, the lost....it is not their fault.

 

And we should not forget what Nietzsche taught us about resssentiments. We only harbour them against them whom we know are better than us.

 

And of course 99.9 percent of those who hate Trump know he is better than them. The rest are just insane.

I really do find quite fascinating how offended Trump supporters get when you criticize him. Objectively speaking the man is likely the most offensive, most ignorant, and most ill informed politician of my lifetime. Every time he opens his mouth his incredible level of ignorance is on full display, he rarely ever talks about substance, and he spends the vast majority of his time name calling and criticizing everyone that he doesn't like.

 

It is quite astonishing to me how MAGA has descended to a level where some of the less intelligent supporters are simply reduced to slogans, name calling as a juvenile tribute to their political Master, and memes rather than intelligent discussions.

 

All Democrats are communist

All Democrats are baby killers

All Democrats support trans rights. 

All democrats are woke

 

Do you know where we get our power from? We drink the blood of infants in basements of pizza parlors.  

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4 minutes ago, spidermike007 said:

 

Such nonsense, the US is Canada's largest trading partner, can you imagine the US having to pay 25% tariffs on every good imported from Canada?

 

Without Canada, Mexico and China the US would cease to exist as a nation, it would not survive. 

 

Trump is overreaching to a huge degree with his tariffs and his threats, and this simpleton is hellbent on destroying the US economy and perhaps taking the world down with him.

 

He needs to be stopped. ASAP. 

 

Nonsense rather is to suggest the US economy would "cease to exist" without Canada, Mexico and China. This shows a fundamental lack of understanding of the depth and strength of the US economy.

 

You also appear to not understand what tarriffs do. Tarriffs make OTHER products more expensive, not US made products, meaning that rather than buy foreign products people will buy US made products because they are cheaper. Therefore tariffs protect US jobs, incrrease US jobs and of course they also raise tax revenue for the US.

 

Perhaps you should read this:

 

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cn93e12rypgo

 

By the way, ALL nations have tarriffs. I know, shocking, right?

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21 hours ago, TinyTimmy said:

 

Trump is just trying to get revenge on everyone he hates, especially anyone he thinks has been disloyal to him.  There is no other strategy or planning than that.   He couldn't care less whether or not he destroys the US economy or even destroys the entire country in the process, but that is not really his intent.  It's all about revenge.

Yeah and he is rushing things as he knows he has little time to destroy all those that snubbed him

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The US, other than california, will be fine. Canada is toast 

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Just now, hotsun said:

The US, other than california, will be fine. Canada is toast 

Another Trump believer.....🤪......😂

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4 minutes ago, hotsun said:

Canada is toast

 

Canada is the toast, the US will be the spread on Canada's toast

9 minutes ago, CallumWK said:

 

Canada is the toast, the US will be the spread on Canada's toast

Canada is the cheese melting on Trump's toast.

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10 minutes ago, CallumWK said:

 

Canada is the toast, the US will be the spread on Canada's toast

 

Canada is a barely inhabited wasteland full of mosquitos and ice.  It has a population of what, 40 million? Canada is not big enough to be the toast the US is spread on.

 

More like a Dorito that dips into the endless ocean of salsa that is the US.

32 minutes ago, Presnock said:

Yeah and he is rushing things as he knows he has little time to destroy all those that snubbed him

Another 3 years and 10 months by my calculations!

Is is possible the Democrats have melted down and trying to do everything possible to stay relevant?

Orange Man.webp

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1 hour ago, spidermike007 said:

I really do find quite fascinating how offended Trump supporters get when you criticize him. Objectively speaking the man is likely the most offensive, most ignorant, and most ill informed politician of my lifetime. Every time he opens his mouth his incredible level of ignorance is on full display, he rarely ever talks about substance, and he spends the vast majority of his time name calling and criticizing everyone that he doesn't like.

 

It is quite astonishing to me how MAGA has descended to a level where some of the less intelligent supporters are simply reduced to slogans, name calling as a juvenile tribute to their political Master, and memes rather than intelligent discussions.

 

All Democrats are communist

All Democrats are baby killers

All Democrats support trans rights. 

All democrats are woke

 

Do you know where we get our power from? We drink the blood of infants in basements of pizza parlors.  

don't forget how incompetent dems are but yet somehow managed to rig an election that 60 judges and numerous recounts by republicans could not find any evidence of fraud or rigging ...but wow what a great job of rigging it it was by those incompetent dems led by sleepy joe.... maga still beating that same old dead election rigged horse while they pretend the attack on the capitol was atifa but seem to be at a loss as to why t would issue pardons to all those atifa mobsters?  

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2 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

Inform us as to the last US president that gave the world peace and prosperity.

I won't hold my breath waiting.

This one is not. He is just splitting it apart either in a fit of rage or at Putin's behest. 

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Trying?

 

The clown's a natural at failure.  Blew his massive inheritance and didn't file a positive tax return until Mark Burnett made him a Game Show Host and created a fantasy silly enough to fool MAGAs.

 

He took a growing economy with 4.8% UE and left Biden a Recession and 6.8% UE, all while running a debt total that not only was considerably higher than US GDP change, but equaled 41% of the debt raised by the first 44 Presidents. Broke an 80+ year streak by being the first POTUS since Hoover to leave office with fewer Americans employed than when he entered. To create that degree of carnage is a gift.

 

He can do it again, too, albeit much worse, as he has no guardrails in this second iteration.

 

He will tank the equity market, obliterate the US economy, make the UE rate soar, alienate foreign buyers of US debt instruments (foreigners currently fund 30% of the US budget deficit) so that rates rise despite any Fed action, and reintroduce Americans to two terms:

 

Stagflation

 

Depression.

 

If abject failure and economic calamity are what you want, he's the man.

 

As that Bond song goes, Nobody does it worser (sic)

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2 hours ago, spidermike007 said:

It is quite astonishing to me how MAGA has descended to a level where some of the less intelligent supporters are simply reduced to slogans, name calling as a juvenile tribute to their political Master, and memes rather than intelligent discussions.

 

All Democrats are communist

All Democrats are baby killers

All Democrats support trans rights. 

All democrats are woke

I think you missed out;

All anti Trumpers are Democrats.

What they don't understand is that many US citizens and non US anti Trumpers are just that.  They are anti Trump and NOT anti any political party.

 

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1 minute ago, rough diamond said:

I think you missed out;

All anti Trumpers are Democrats.

What they don't understand is that many US citizens and non US anti Trumpers are just that.  They are anti Trump and NOT anti any political party.

 

 

Of course. Because they know Trump is better than them.

 

He's richer. He's smarter. He has a better looking wife. A better looking family. A bigger house. And a lot more political power.

 

He doesn't even know Walker88 or rough diamond exist. Nor would he care.

 

It's funny really. All these ressentiments because someone is better than you, and he doesn't eve care about you one speck of dust.

 

 We are laughing.

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Better than whom? 

 

Kamala Harris, Joe Biden, Taylor Swift, Charlie XCX, Megan Thee Stallion, Cardi B, David Roche, everyone who works MSNBC, CNBC, CNN, ABC, NBC, CBS, every pollster who predicted a Kamala landslide, Zelensky, Canada, Mexico, China....

 

Nancy Pelosi, your boys are taking a hell of a beating!!!!

 

Hahahahaha

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6 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

 

Of course. Because they know Trump is better than them.

 

He's richer. He's smarter. He has a better looking wife. A better looking family. A bigger house. And a lot more political power.

 

He doesn't even know Walker88 or rough diamond exist. Nor would he care.

 

It's funny really. All these ressentiments because someone is better than you, and he doesn't eve care about you one speck of dust.

 

 We are laughing.

More criminal convictions, bigger lost lawsuits, more bankruptcies, addicted to better drugs, cheated on more wives..... 

1 minute ago, cjinchiangrai said:

More criminal convictions, bigger lost lawsuits, more bankruptcies, addicted to better drugs, cheated on more wives..... 

 

And still the President of the US of A.

 

He's greater than I thought. Thanks for pointing that out.

 

 

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I was watching a show today where the guest said that the US is busy repatriating all their gold from around the world. Currently over 8,500 tons So much so that it is creating shortages which is driving the price up..

 

He also said that US gold is for some reason only valued around $42/oz, and that he reckons Trump's plan is not only to have it revalued at today's market price which almost at $3000/oz, but to use it to create a partially gold backed Dollar to pre-empt the BRICS plan to do the same with their currencies.

 

He stated that if true, Trump would be able to pay off the US national debt. So there still might be some method to DT's madness.

 

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2 hours ago, Cameroni said:

 

Nonsense rather is to suggest the US economy would "cease to exist" without Canada, Mexico and China. This shows a fundamental lack of understanding of the depth and strength of the US economy.

 

You also appear to not understand what tarriffs do. Tarriffs make OTHER products more expensive, not US made products, meaning that rather than buy foreign products people will buy US made products because they are cheaper. Therefore tariffs protect US jobs, incrrease US jobs and of course they also raise tax revenue for the US.

 

Perhaps you should read this:

 

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cn93e12rypgo

 

By the way, ALL nations have tarriffs. I know, shocking, right?

It has been a long time since I've heard such a ridiculous bit of tripe, it takes years and years for manufacturers to retool and establish new manufacturing facilities in another country. If Trump was even moderately intelligent this would have been part of a Five-Year Plan to force American companies to relocate, but instead his blazing stupidity has set in motion a disastrous course of action that is absolutely impossible to implement.

 

All he's doing is causing a huge tax hike for the American people, potentially decimating the economy, resulting in a huge spike in unemployment and massive inflation. But that's your boy you voted for him. 

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5 minutes ago, spidermike007 said:

It has been a long time since I've heard such a ridiculous bit of tripe, it takes years and years for manufacturers to retool and establish new manufacturing facilities in another country. If Trump was even moderately intelligent this would have been part of a Five-Year Plan to force American companies to relocate, but instead his blazing stupidity has set in motion a disastrous course of action that is absolutely impossible to implement.

 

All he's doing is causing a huge tax hike for the American people, potentially decimating the economy, resulting in a huge spike in unemployment and massive inflation. But that's your boy you voted for him. 

 

Obviously Trump can't implement a "5 Year Plan" to "force" Aemrican companies to relocate. He's not Stalin and the US is not Soviet Russia.

 

However, he is deftly forcing FOREIGN companies to pay more to sell in the US and making THEIR products more expensive. Obviously this will make US made products cheaper by comparison and secure and create US jobs.

 

Not to mention the additional money hat will flow into the US as additional revenue from the tariffs themselves.

 

Rather than "decimate" the US economy Trump is protecting the US economy from cheapear and better competition. Very sensible.

 

 

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