March 11, 20251 yr Popular Post Elon Musk Targets Social Security and Benefits for Cuts, Claiming Widespread Fraud  Called it. â  Trump said he wouldn't touch Social Security Medicare or Medicaid.  "Technically true"  HIs African Chainsaw Massacre Moron will cut it. đŗ  You see, in the twisted ketamine warped mind of a Billionaire who wears t-shirts to cabinet meetings...  Grandma is "waste", "fraud" and "abuse".  She's collecting SS, but not doing any work.  That old "fraud" is probably just sitting around the house all day doing 17 different drugs.  What a "waste" of resources.  Did Grandma even thank Musk for the wonderful things he's doing?  What an ungrateful "abuse" of government resources.  That money should be going into Musk's pockets.  Get out of Elon's way, Granny.  And get your old, feeble hands off Musk's money.đ  MARS OR BUST Â
March 11, 20251 yr Popular Post Don't you lefties have anything better to do that start all these daft threads?
March 11, 20251 yr Popular Post 30 minutes ago, SiSePuede419 said: Elon Musk Targets Social Security and Benefits for Cuts, Claiming Widespread Fraud  Called it. â  Trump said he wouldn't touch Social Security Medicare or Medicaid.  "Technically true"  HIs African Chainsaw Massacre Moron will cut it. đŗ  You see, in the twisted ketamine warped mind of a Billionaire who wears t-shirts to cabinet meetings...  Grandma is "waste", "fraud" and "abuse".  She's collecting SS, but not doing any work.  That old "fraud" is probably just sitting around the house all day doing 17 different drugs.  What a "waste" of resources.  Did Grandma even thank Musk for the wonderful things he's doing?  What an ungrateful "abuse" of government resources.  That money should be going into Musk's pockets.  Get out of Elon's way, Granny.  And get your old, feeble hands off Musk's money.đ  MARS OR BUST    Neither Trump or Musk can cut Social Security.Â
March 11, 20251 yr Popular Post 15 minutes ago, TedG said:   Neither Trump or Musk can cut Social Security. Watch them try.
March 11, 20251 yr Author Popular Post 21 minutes ago, TedG said: Neither Trump or Musk can cut Social Security. Legally.  "Technically true."  Since when has the law stopped Trump or Musk from Doing Crimes before?  Can't remember.  Refresh my memory. đ
March 11, 20251 yr Popular Post Well they're definitely deeply cutting Medicaid. That will directly result in the deaths of countless Americans. Probably mostly Trump supporters.Â
March 11, 20251 yr Author Popular Post 26 minutes ago, BritManToo said: Don't you lefties have anything better to do that start all these daft threads? Â So, no great wisdom about Trump & Musk stealing Grandma's money? Â You didn't see nothing? đŗ Â Another Mafia crime gang member.
March 11, 20251 yr Author Popular Post 1 minute ago, Jingthing said: Well they're definitely deeply cutting Medicaid. That will directly result in the deaths of countless Americans. Probably most Trump supporters. Doctor Draino killed quite a few MAGA faithful during COVID-19. Â And he's come back to finish the job. Â Go Donnie Go! đ
March 11, 20251 yr Popular Post 9 minutes ago, rough diamond said: Watch them try. Trump or must lack the power to cut SS. Â Anyway, the combined cost of SS, Medicare, Medicaid is 3.3 trillion. Â At some point these programs will need to be trimmed.Â
March 11, 20251 yr Popular Post 5 minutes ago, Jingthing said: Well they're definitely deeply cutting Medicaid. That will directly result in the deaths of countless Americans. Probably most Trump supporters. The combined cost of SS, Medicare, Medicaid is 3.3 trillion.  At some point these programs will need to be trimmed.Â
March 11, 20251 yr 11 minutes ago, Jingthing said: Well they're definitely deeply cutting Medicaid. That will directly result in the deaths of countless Americans. Probably mostly Trump supporters. Probably mostly?Â
March 11, 20251 yr Popular Post 13 minutes ago, TedG said: The combined cost of SS, Medicare, Medicaid is 3.3 trillion.  At some point these programs will need to be trimmed. That much is obvious.  And supposedly, they're finding so much waste, fraud, and abuse that it blows their mind.  For example, all sorts of Medicare money being sent overseas, even though that's not supposed to be possible.  And some of it to 12-year-olds. Â
March 11, 20251 yr Popular Post 1 hour ago, SiSePuede419 said: Elon Musk Targets Social Security and Benefits for Cuts, Claiming Widespread Fraud  Called it. â  Please cite actual cases of grandma's benefits being cut.  Thank you.
March 11, 20251 yr Author Popular Post 14 minutes ago, TedG said: The combined cost of SS, Medicare, Medicaid is 3.3 trillion.  At some point these programs will need to be trimmed. Or raise the cap so Billionaires pay the same % as teachers, firefighters and policemen.  Weird how you rule that out and start hurting the Middle Class.  Because cutting SS, Medicare, Medicaid ain't going to hurt the rich.  It's almost like you hate America and all it stands for (helping the Middle Class from starving in their old age). đ
March 11, 20251 yr Author Popular Post Just now, NoDisplayName said: Please cite actual cases of grandma's benefits being cut.  Thank you. When it happens later this year, you can look back and say, Gee whiz, that Sea Say Puede feller sure was right about that. How did he git so SMRT đ¤Â
March 11, 20251 yr Popular Post I always thought the expression "social security is the third rail" of American politics meant that any politician who messed with it would experience political death. After the killing of the United Healthcare's CEO, it might mean literal death as well. When you recklessly cut staffing and callously try to disrupt the timely payment of benefits, the impact is much the same as cutting actual benefits. There are proposed cuts to Medicaid in the House budget bill which Trump supports, and Musk is openly talking about the need to cut entitlements, so all the posters claiming this is all fear mongering need a reality check.
March 11, 20251 yr Popular Post 6 minutes ago, SiSePuede419 said: When it happens later this year, Â And when It doesn't happen are you gonna come back with an apology ?
March 11, 20251 yr Popular Post 1 hour ago, BritManToo said: Don't you lefties have anything better to do that start all these daft threads?  Apparently not---so we have another nearly 4 years to hear this nonsense -- It;s quite sad really because not only affects ASEAN , You can not seem to go anywhere on the net now without someone with the trump madness. Like you I am not an American-- but just 50 days in Office and to them its like the world collapsing---no recognition that the last guy gave -8,064 Pardons , especially to himself and family (Bush gave 200) . They do not seem to find that at all questionable.  Oh well there is always the TV and Joke pages---see you there........................  Â
March 11, 20251 yr 13 minutes ago, SiSePuede419 said: Or raise the cap so Billionaires pay the same % as teachers, firefighters and policemen. Â Weird how you rule that out and start hurting the Middle Class. Â Because cutting SS, Medicare, Medicaid ain't going to hurt the rich. Â It's almost like you hate America and all it stands for (helping the Middle Class from starving in their old age). đ Rising the cap does not completely solve the issue. Â The larger issue is the growing number of people on SS vs those who pay into the system. Â The current ratio is less than 3 to 1. Â Â Can you please define the income of a billionaire? Â
March 11, 20251 yr Popular Post 17 minutes ago, SiSePuede419 said: When it happens later this year, you can look back and say, Gee whiz, that Sea Say Puede feller sure was right about that. How did he git so SMRT đ¤Â  Oh, I see. No benefits have been cut. You got nothin'. Just more mongering of fear. Sad. Bigly, bigly sad. Â
March 11, 20251 yr 44 minutes ago, Jingthing said: Well they're definitely deeply cutting Medicaid. That will directly result in the deaths of countless Americans. Probably mostly Trump supporters. If so it means that for once he has found the correct recipients of his so called largesse.
March 11, 20251 yr 1 hour ago, rough diamond said: Watch them try. Sorry to say this ' impossible". Â
March 11, 20251 yr Popular Post 1 hour ago, BritManToo said: Don't you lefties have anything better to do that start all these daft threads? Possibly because posts expressing exactly what they think of Messrs Trump and Musk are taken down!
March 11, 20251 yr Author Popular Post 39 minutes ago, johng said: And when It doesn't happen are you gonna come back with an apology ? Apologize? For what? Being wrong? Sure thing. You first, Trump Supporters. 𤠠Republicans have hated SS from Day One.  They've always wanted to cripple it.   Republican Coworker: Social Security is going bankrupt.  Me: That's because you keep voting for people who keep inadvertently telling you their plans. ¯\_(ã)_/¯ Â
March 11, 20251 yr 21 minutes ago, SiSePuede419 said: Apologize? For what? Being wrong? Sure thing. You first, Trump Supporters. 𤠠Republicans have hated SS from Day One.  They've always wanted to cripple it.   Republican Coworker: Social Security is going bankrupt.  Me: That's because you keep voting for people who keep inadvertently telling you their plans. ¯\_(ã)_/¯  Social Security has run a deficit since 2010.
March 11, 20251 yr Author Popular Post 1 hour ago, Gecko123 said: so all the posters claiming this is all fear mongering No, I basically quoted Elon Musk, the Richest Man in the World who is working for Trump as his African Chainsaw Massacre Man.  You see, the Boss doesn't like to get "splatter" on his nice white golf shirt, see?  Trump really doesn't want to be seen as a bad man, so he's having Musk do the dirty deeds.  Of there's blowback, he can then blame Musk.  Trump is actually a very "smart" man for a Russian Agent actively trying to destroy America from the inside.  Smooth operator like Al Capone. đĢ Â
March 11, 20251 yr Popular Post 2 hours ago, BritManToo said: Don't you lefties have anything better to do that start all these daft threads? What is a "lefty" as you'd define it? Someone who wouldn't vote for Adolf Hitler? Â And I thought you'd be a "Brit"..
March 11, 20251 yr Author Popular Post 7 minutes ago, TedG said: Social Security has run a deficit since 2010. Yes, Social Security has generally run a cash-flow deficit since 2010, meaning that its expenses (benefit payments) have exceeded its payroll tax and other non-interest income. However, the program was able to cover these shortfalls by using interest income from its trust funds. Since 2021, Social Security has been drawing down its trust fund reserves because total income (including interest) is no longer sufficient to cover full benefits. The trust fund is projected to be depleted by the mid-2030s, at which point, if no changes are made, benefits may have to be reduced to match incoming payroll tax revenue.  BINGO.  Raise the cap so Billionaires pay the same rate as everyone else.  Problem solved.  Right now, income above $168,600 (as of 2024) isnât subject to Social Security taxes  If that cap were raisedâor eliminated entirelyâSocial Security would be on much stronger footing. Some proposals even suggest applying the tax only to earnings above a certain threshold (like $400,000) to avoid raising taxes on upper-middle-class earners while still making the ultra-wealthy contribute more.  Itâs a simple fix, but getting Congress to act?  Do you seriously think Republican politicians care about the working class who need SS?  They don't need it. They're rich. Why aren't you rich? Tough luck. Get sick and die early. Good riddance.  That's their brand. đ
March 11, 20251 yr 2 minutes ago, SiSePuede419 said: Yes, Social Security has generally run a cash-flow deficit since 2010, meaning that its expenses (benefit payments) have exceeded its payroll tax and other non-interest income. However, the program was able to cover these shortfalls by using interest income from its trust funds. Since 2021, Social Security has been drawing down its trust fund reserves because total income (including interest) is no longer sufficient to cover full benefits. The trust fund is projected to be depleted by the mid-2030s, at which point, if no changes are made, benefits may have to be reduced to match incoming payroll tax revenue.  BINGO.  Raise the cap so Billionaires pay the same rate as everyone else.  Problem solved.  Right now, income above $168,600 (as of 2024) isnât subject to Social Security taxes  If that cap were raisedâor eliminated entirelyâSocial Security would be on much stronger footing. Some proposals even suggest applying the tax only to earnings above a certain threshold (like $400,000) to avoid raising taxes on upper-middle-class earners while still making the ultra-wealthy contribute more.  Itâs a simple fix, but getting Congress to act?  Do you seriously think Republican politicians care about the working class who need SS?  They don't need it. They're rich. Why aren't you rich? Tough luck. Get sick and die early. Good riddance.  That's their brand. đ 1) Lets see the dems pass a bill, who had 15 years to deal with this issue. 2) Billionaires have nothing to do the problem of the SS program.Â
March 11, 20251 yr 5 minutes ago, SiSePuede419 said: Yes, Social Security has generally run a cash-flow deficit since 2010, meaning that its expenses (benefit payments) have exceeded its payroll tax and other non-interest income. However, the program was able to cover these shortfalls by using interest income from its trust funds. Since 2021, Social Security has been drawing down its trust fund reserves because total income (including interest) is no longer sufficient to cover full benefits. The trust fund is projected to be depleted by the mid-2030s, at which point, if no changes are made, benefits may have to be reduced to match incoming payroll tax revenue.  BINGO.  Raise the cap so Billionaires pay the same rate as everyone else.  Problem solved.  Right now, income above $168,600 (as of 2024) isnât subject to Social Security taxes  If that cap were raisedâor eliminated entirelyâSocial Security would be on much stronger footing. Some proposals even suggest applying the tax only to earnings above a certain threshold (like $400,000) to avoid raising taxes on upper-middle-class earners while still making the ultra-wealthy contribute more.  Itâs a simple fix, but getting Congress to act?  Do you seriously think Republican politicians care about the working class who need SS?  They don't need it. They're rich. Why aren't you rich? Tough luck. Get sick and die early. Good riddance.  That's their brand. đ   You should read this:  https://manhattan.institute/article/problems-with-eliminating-the-social-security-tax-cap
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