Trump has lost the plot.

[BKKKevin]

[Robert_Smith]

7 minutes ago, Harrisfan said:

Hows the keyboard experts? 

Boots on the ground in patts me, Harris.

 

Leaving tomorrow.

 

regards,

bob.

[IvorBiggun2]

5 hours ago, bannork said:

The man doesn't have an ounce of humanity in him 

 

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Presidents don’t make decisions; that’s in the hands of people behind the curtain.

Presidents of the United States are figureheads. The real policy and decision-making is done by others— people you don’t know, who were never elected, but retain their place in power and governance across publicly elected administrations. Those people— individuals, as well as groups— elements of the military, of industry, of the intelligence community— may well be called collectively a “deep state”. The deep state makes the real decisions about the allocation of collective resources.

In the meantime, the President attends official ceremonies, acts and speaks in ways that distract public attention from the workings of the deep state, and are often a lightning rod for unpopular decisions of the deep state. The presidents have performed this role both wittingly and unwittingly— you can think of some examples of both.

When a president needs to make a decision— often for show— s/he will be “advised” as to the decision the deep state wants made. If a president decides to wield power of his own accord, he will be “shown the instruments”— something along the lines of, “look at what happened to JFK”. Indeed, JFK probably met his end because the deep state wanted to eliminate the presidency as a rival for policy and decision-making.

So no, presidents generally don’t make the important decisions, and the decisions they do make are generally provided to them.

 

 

[riclag]

3 hours ago, riclag said:

 
I didn’t know about such things!

I knew about  the  TO’s indoctrination efforts of course  but I didn’t know how 

far their programs would go beyond a classroom.

 A 2016 article , I imagine its still 

being used ,terrorism uses everything on the table.
“Houthi rebels in Yemen have routinized the inclusion of children in their ranks, while the Lebanese Hezbollah has begun accepting adolescents into its ranks to boost its presence in Syria”.
 

^{https://ctc.westpoint.edu/depictions-of-children-and-youth-in-the-islamic-states-martyrdom-propaganda-2015-2016/}

I’m American ,If I had to choose between Terrorist proxies or Trump ,

guess what! 

[Hamus Yaigh]

7 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

Trump is now colluding in crimes against humanity, colluding in war crimes, colluding in ethnic cleansing, providing the means to murder women and children, allowing starvation as a weapon of war, and supporting netanyahu in reneging on the ceasefire that the US is a guarantor of.

Trump didn't lose the plot. He's always been what he has been. Voters lost the plot last year by allowing this to happen at all.

[Presnock]

4 hours ago, JimHuaHin said:

Did Trump ever have the plot?

probably in a dream when he was a pre-schooler!  But then he fell in love with a face he saw in the mirror and we know the rest of the story until now.

[Presnock]

9 hours ago, Yolando said:

He didn't lose the plot.  You just never understood his plot.  

 

His only goals are to get revenge on as many people he hates as possible, and to collect as much money as possible.  He wouldn't care if half the world died in the process as long as most of the people that worship him survive.

nailed him to a tee!

[sammieuk1]

Vote for me I will end the war in 24 hrs🤔

 

 

 

[Nick Carter icp]

8 minutes ago, sammieuk1 said:

Vote for me I will end the war in 24 hrs🤔

 

 

 

 

    Trump has got a ceasefire 

[Dan O]

10 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

As anyone that reads my posts knows, my support for Trump was dependent on him not starting wars- a negotiator, not a warmaker. Last night that ended.

Trump is now colluding in crimes against humanity, colluding in war crimes, colluding in ethnic cleansing, providing the means to murder women and children, allowing starvation as a weapon of war, and supporting netanyahu in reneging on the ceasefire that the US is a guarantor of.

 

I'm done with Trump and not one word of support for him from this point on on anything.

 

That does not mean that I support the haters with their obsessive bleating about him. I still support his domestic policies ie illegal immigration, rejection of MMCC, destruction of DEI and stabbing woke in the heart. Sadly Trump has lost the plot on things overseas, with his use of force in the M E and the threats against Iran etc.

I had high hopes that Trump the negotiator would bring an end to the endless American wars in the M E, but I see that Trump has gone, and he's become just another US warmonger flailing around in the M E, bringing death and destruction.

 

We live in sad days in the end times of western civilization. It was good while it lasted, and I had the best of it, but everything ends.

You losing faith or belief in Trump for his international policies may just be the beginning of understanding how out of touch he actually is in his approach to "solving" domestic issues as well. While the issues he has targeted may be valid the approach he is taking in slash and burn everything to the ground at the same time is ludicrous. 

[SLOWHAND225]

5 hours ago, Presnock said:

well along those possible lines, if he continues with his destruction of the fed workforce (30% ex military) plus cuts to medicade - care for military and former military exposed to chemicals since the VN era to present, the current military will not in my honest opinion jump as high as he thinks they will with his orders for boots on the ground in a thoughtless war again!  I am a VN vettt and have friends still suffering from AO exposure and getting support from the Medicade department.  This is just like Elon and the SS bit saying that they are going to stop those funds for 6-8 year olds.  Those 6-8 year olds lost a parent that had paid into the SS system and were guaranteed support until they reach the age of 18.  ELON just has no idea whatsoever of the responisibilties of the different departments - and although Trump has an additional 4 years at the helm, I don't think he is very much aware of nor cares about the responsibilities of those departments IMHO anyway.

 

 

Cite your sources for that.

The kids he's talking about removing are kids that are getting SSDI, you know, the kids whos family has been on it for 3 generations and is only possible because they pay the Dr. to write them up as crazy.
Its way more common than you might think and spans every race we have. Want to see a great example of generations doing it, watch "The wonderful whites of WV"

[candide]

7 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

    Trump has got a ceasefire 

Ceasefire? The only outcome is that Ukraine will stop bombing the main source of financing for the Russian war (Russia also accepted not to bomb Ukraine's energy infrastructure, but winter is soon over so it's not a significant benefit for Ukraine).

 

Trump has been played by Putin, as expected! 🤣

[Nick Carter icp]

3 minutes ago, candide said:

Ceasefire? The only outcome is that Ukraine will stop bombing the main source of financing for the Russian war (Russia also accepted not to bomb Ukraine's energy infrastructure, but winter is soon over so it's not a significant benefit for Ukraine).

 

Trump has been played by Putin, as expected! 🤣

 

   You aren't concerned about the Russia /Ukraine war .

Your only interest is your own personal war against Donald Trump

[Cameroni]

10 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

As anyone that reads my posts knows, my support for Trump was dependent on him not starting wars- a negotiator, not a warmaker. Last night that ended.

Trump is now colluding in crimes against humanity, colluding in war crimes, colluding in ethnic cleansing, providing the means to murder women and children, allowing starvation as a weapon of war, and supporting netanyahu in reneging on the ceasefire that the US is a guarantor of.

 

I'm done with Trump and not one word of support for him from this point on on anything.

 

That does not mean that I support the haters with their obsessive bleating about him. I still support his domestic policies ie illegal immigration, rejection of MMCC, destruction of DEI and stabbing woke in the heart. Sadly Trump has lost the plot on things overseas, with his use of force in the M E and the threats against Iran etc.

I had high hopes that Trump the negotiator would bring an end to the endless American wars in the M E, but I see that Trump has gone, and he's become just another US warmonger flailing around in the M E, bringing death and destruction.

 

We live in sad days in the end times of western civilization. It was good while it lasted, and I had the best of it, but everything ends.

 

Yes, his support for Israel must have come as a real shock and was utterly unpredictable.

[marin]

10 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

I'm done with Trump and not one word of support for him from this point on on anything.

Kool Aid is not good for you. Glad to hear you weaned yourself off it. Pity you ever indulged though. 

[Harrisfan]

8 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

   You aren't concerned about the Russia /Ukraine war .

Your only interest is your own personal war against Donald Trump

Wait til the dictionaries list it.

[Mark1066]

10 hours ago, Jingthing said:

A person would need to be totally daft to not have realized that Trump 2.0 was going to be exponentially worse than Trump 1.0. He told us. Some obviously didn't listen. 

Well, to be fair there wasn't really another suitable candidate for a bigoted turd to support

[Mark1066]

11 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

   You aren't concerned about the Russia /Ukraine war .

Your only interest is your own personal war against Donald Trump

We're concerned about the truth. There is no ceasefire agreement - typing lies doesn't make them true.

[Digitalbanana]

28 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

Trump has got a ceasefire 

Utter rubbish. A 30 day mutual halt of bombing energy infrastructure when the US tried to scramble for energy AND infrastructure is taking the pisskie.

[candide]

13 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

   You aren't concerned about the Russia /Ukraine war .

Your only interest is your own personal war against Donald Trump

In other words, you have nothing to contradict my claim....

[johnnybangkok]

24 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

    Trump has got a ceasefire 

No he hasn't. 

 

All he's got so far is Putin agreeing to to stop attacking Ukraine's 'energy infrastructure' which is a particularly ineffectual concession now that winter is over. However, if reciprocated (big if) this would let Putin off with something that has been causing him REAL problems i.e. Ukraine hitting Russia's oil refineries with drones and long range missiles.

He's getting played for the absolute fool that he is by being thrown a VERY small bone but trying to spin it as an 'early stage of a ceasefire". Putin is holding all the cards because he's already seen  Trumps cards beforehand when he very publicly berated Zelensky and briefly stopped military aid and intelligence sharing.

 

Putin doesn't want peace or if he does he will demand huge concessions because he knows that Trump promised to end the war 'on day one!" The Art of the Deal my ar$e.

[candide]

2 minutes ago, johnnybangkok said:

No he hasn't. 

 

All he's got so far is Putin agreeing to to stop attacking Ukraine's 'energy infrastructure' which is a particularly ineffectual concession now that winter is over. However, if reciprocated (big if) this would let Putin off with something that has been causing him REAL problems i.e. Ukraine hitting Russia's oil refineries with drones and long range missiles.

He's getting played for the absolute fool that he is by being thrown a VERY small bone but trying to spin it as an 'early stage of a ceasefire". Putin is holding all the cards because he's already seen  Trumps cards beforehand when he very publicly berated Zelensky and briefly stopped military aid and intelligence sharing.

 

Putin doesn't want peace or if he does he will demand huge concessions because he knows that Trump promised to end the war 'on day one!" The Art of the Deal my ar$e.

Actually Trump claimed he would even get a deal even before becoming President (during the debate with Kamala)! 🤣

[Presnock]

32 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

    Trump has got a ceasefire 

you must have heard a different story about the phone call - both sides say that they won't target energy facilities and that means that the fighting between soldiers will continue.  In addition, the US can't share any military equipment or intel with the Ukraine.  Sounded more like Putin got all that he wanted almost while the Uraine got hardly anything.  Also Ukraine can't attack any Russian equipment in the Black Sea while Ukraine doesn't have anything to attack there.  Cease fire?  please explain what your definition is as it seems a lot different than in any dictionary!

[Bkk Brian]

2 minutes ago, Presnock said:

you must have heard a different story about the phone call - both sides say that they won't target energy facilities and that means that the fighting between soldiers will continue.  In addition, the US can't share any military equipment or intel with the Ukraine.  Sounded more like Putin got all that he wanted almost while the Uraine got hardly anything.  Also Ukraine can't attack any Russian equipment in the Black Sea while Ukraine doesn't have anything to attack there.  Cease fire?  please explain what your definition is as it seems a lot different than in any dictionary!

In addition, the US can't share any military equipment or intel with the Ukraine.

 

Think you'll find that's for a longer term deal, for this one on energy infrastructure:

 

Putin didn't mention military aid in phone call, Trump says

In an interview with Fox News correspondent Laura Ingraham following the call, Trump denied that Putin demanded a freeze on military aid to Kyiv.

"No he didn't, we didn't talk about aid, actually we didn't talk about aid at all," Trump said.

https://kyivindependent.com/putin-didnt-mention-military-aid-in-phone-call-trump-says/

[theshu25]

Why would anyone beleive a word the lying grifting conman has to say.   Who knows what was said in th e   phone call.   The orange mongol can pass on any rubbish he likes to.

[Nick Carter icp]

17 minutes ago, Mark1066 said:

We're concerned about the truth. There is no ceasefire agreement - typing lies doesn't make them true.

 

   Oh I see, I misread the heading ,

It is actually a partial ceasefire, rather than a ceasefire .

It was a genuine mistake on my part .

It wasn't a lie .

Will you retract your claim that I lied ?

[bunnydrops]

10 hours ago, Yolando said:

He didn't lose the plot.  You just never understood his plot.  

 

His only goals are to get revenge on as many people he hates as possible, and to collect as much money as possible.  He wouldn't care if half the world died in the process as long as most of the people that worship him survive.

It was Trumps' mentor Roy Cohn, the New York fixer who said Trump "has ice water flowing in his veins".  And Cohn wasn't known for being a nice guy either.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roy_Cohn

[Nick Carter icp]

22 minutes ago, Presnock said:

you must have heard a different story about the phone call - both sides say that they won't target energy facilities and that means that the fighting between soldiers will continue.  In addition, the US can't share any military equipment or intel with the Ukraine.  Sounded more like Putin got all that he wanted almost while the Uraine got hardly anything.  Also Ukraine can't attack any Russian equipment in the Black Sea while Ukraine doesn't have anything to attack there.  Cease fire?  please explain what your definition is as it seems a lot different than in any dictionary!

 

   Partial ceasefire, but thats a start 

 

https://news.sky.com/story/putin-agrees-to-partial-ceasefire-in-ukraine-after-trump-call-13331581

[John Drake]

Toldyaso.  "And he's going to govern so incompetently that the Democrats sweep congress in 2026 and AOC becomes  president in 2028."

 

[Nick Carter icp]

36 minutes ago, candide said:

In other words, you have nothing to contradict my claim....

 

   Your main concern seems to be to attack Donald TRump