4 minutes ago, RSD1 said:

 

What’s Present:

 

    •    Timeline: A detailed sequence of events (1:45 p.m. to 3:36 p.m. ET) with specific actions (e.g., F-18 launches, drone strikes, Tomahawk deployment).
    •    Assets: Clear identification of military hardware (F-18 jets, MQ-9 drones, Tomahawks), indicating the scope and nature of the operation.
    •    Intent: The focus on a “Target Terrorist” and the multi-phase approach suggest a deliberate strike against a high-value target, likely a Houthi figure, with possible secondary objectives (implied by Tomahawks).
    •    Operational Details: Real-time updates (e.g., weather, CENTCOM confirmation) and contingencies (“trigger-based”) show active planning and execution oversight.

Is It an Attack Plan?

 

Yes, in a Broad Sense: In military parlance, an “attack plan” doesn’t always require coordinates or target names in every communication. It’s a scheme for employing forces to achieve a specific objective—here, neutralizing a terrorist via airstrikes and missiles. Hegseth’s messages outline the how (assets and timing) and when. 

Did 13 soldiers die and 80 billion in equipment get seized?

11 minutes ago, RSD1 said:

 

What’s Present:

 

    •    Timeline: A detailed sequence of events (1:45 p.m. to 3:36 p.m. ET) with specific actions (e.g., F-18 launches, drone strikes, Tomahawk deployment).
    •    Assets: Clear identification of military hardware (F-18 jets, MQ-9 drones, Tomahawks), indicating the scope and nature of the operation.
    •    Intent: The focus on a “Target Terrorist” and the multi-phase approach suggest a deliberate strike against a high-value target, likely a Houthi figure, with possible secondary objectives (implied by Tomahawks).
    •    Operational Details: Real-time updates (e.g., weather, CENTCOM confirmation) and contingencies (“trigger-based”) show active planning and execution oversight.

Is It an Attack Plan?

 

Yes, in a Broad Sense: In military parlance, an “attack plan” doesn’t always require coordinates or target names in every communication. It’s a scheme for employing forces to achieve a specific objective—here, neutralizing a terrorist via airstrikes and missiles. Hegseth’s messages outline the how (assets and timing) and when. 

No targets mentioned. Where were they going to attack? Not an attack plan. Attack plans must designate targets, weapon systems, personnel, exact times etc. Basically the Houthis would only know something's coming their way but no idea where.

1 minute ago, frank83628 said:

That was the lamest attempt at trying to make a name sound Russian.... what a whopper. I'm sure it sounded funnier in your head.

Just as another thread says, all you have is to label everyone Nazis or Russian assets.... and look where its got you so far, you/democrats lost EVERYTHING, have no leadership, nothing, Nada,

 

And yet despite of that the Trump administration aren't able to take advantage of the situation due to the limitless ineptness of its members. Absolutely mindboggling.

4 minutes ago, dinsdale said:

No targets mentioned. Where were they going to attack? Not an attack plan. Attack plans must designate targets, weapon systems, personnel, exact times etc. Basically the Houthis would only know something's coming their way but no idea where.

They'd know that an attack was coming.

They'd know when the attack was coming.

They'd know what weapons were going to be used.

 

Please stop making a fool of yourself. It's embarrassing to watch.

1 hour ago, dinsdale said:

Wow! Love to see you back this one up. Drunk? Like the see the proof of this. As for attack plans/battle plans/war plans call them what you like can you share those leaks please. Love to see them. Battle plans are very detailed. As of yet I have seen nothing resembling a battle plan.

It's difficult when talking to a small child or a turnip, but I'll give it a try.....

 

Attack plans note weapons, participants, targets and timing. Goldberg has now published all of what he got on SIGNAL, and the chat has exactly the attack plan. You can go read it, rather than play three monkeys (no see, no hear, no speak). Not only that, Hegseth notes the start of the attack. Since F-18s have a speed limit that is less than light, that means anyone who was on or had hacked the chat would have had time to alert the Houtis and defend themselves against the incoming attack, which means US forces would be at risk.

 

The SecDef put US forces at risk. He should at least resign, if not commit sepuku.

14 minutes ago, frank83628 said:

That was the lamest attempt at trying to make a name sound Russian.... what a whopper. I'm sure it sounded funnier in your head.

Just as another thread says, all you have is to label everyone Nazis or Russian assets.... and look where its got you so far, you/democrats lost EVERYTHING, have no leadership, nothing, Nada,

 

The immaturity of some on here is astounding. I'm starting to the think this forum is being flooded by brainless idiots. It's simply pitiful. The scary thing is it reflects a large amount of people globally (in the west) that have the mind virus. Bring on the mid terms. Maybe they'll shut up after that. The Dems have NO ONE to run.

20 minutes ago, frank83628 said:

Did 13 soldiers die and 80 billion in equipment get seized?

You mean the 5000 Taliban jihadis who 45 released from prison who later attacked the airport, and who now rule Afghanistan?

7 minutes ago, BLMFem said:

They'd know that an attack was coming.

They'd know when the attack was coming.

They'd know what weapons were going to be used.

 

Please stop making a fool of yourself. It's embarrassing to watch.

We're going to bomb you between such and such time. Great war plan.

I think it’s great the way Americans are learning how effective the strikes are, and how well the the Administration is working together.  But for the leak, we’d have heard nothing about them, unless a “kid” got killed.

 

The leak was bad, but I can wait to see what the investigation turns up. No harm no foul.

1 minute ago, dinsdale said:

We're going to bomb you between such and such time. Great war plan.

Great to know if you're the one that's going to be hit, don't you think?

Besides, did you really expect anything great from Pete "OPSEC" Hegseth?

4 minutes ago, Walker88 said:

It's difficult when talking to a small child or a turnip, but I'll give it a try.....

 

Attack plans note weapons, participants, targets and timing. Goldberg has now published all of what he got on SIGNAL, and the chat has exactly the attack plan. You can go read it, rather than play three monkeys (no see, no hear, no speak). Not only that, Hegseth notes the start of the attack. Since F-18s have a speed limit that is less than light, that means anyone who was on or had hacked the chat would have had time to alert the Houtis and defend themselves against the incoming attack, which means US forces would be at risk.

 

The SecDef put US forces at risk. He should at least resign, if not commit sepuku.

Excellent. Then you can share the targets and timings that were mentioned. Please. As for alerting the Houthi's you must be kidding. They are on full alert 24/7 and have been for a long time.

Just now, BLMFem said:

Great to know if you're the one that's going to be hit, don't you think?

Besides, did you really expect anything great from Pete "OPSEC" Hegseth?

Hit where? Great stuff IMO. All the Houthis crapping their pants waiting for an attack but don't know where it's going to be. 

So. After many years of hacked info not being able to be published, it is suddenly all cool to do so? Worse, previously it was not hacked info and it was proof a President was corrupt. Now its real nationsl security stuff and its blabbed all over msm.

You just couldnt make up the lefts fouble standards and dishonesty?

50 minutes ago, dinsdale said:

The immaturity of some on here is astounding. I'm starting to the think this forum is being flooded by brainless idiots. It's simply pitiful. The scary thing is it reflects a large amount of people globally (in the west) that have the mind virus. Bring on the mid terms. Maybe they'll shut up after that. The Dems have NO ONE to run.

Would "immaturity" also be astounding if "someone" used names like Pocahontas Warren, Shifty Schiff, Crooked Hillary, Sleepy Joe or maybe Low IQ Waters?

 

Or is that "Executive Privilege"?

42 minutes ago, dinsdale said:

Hit where? Great stuff IMO. All the Houthis crapping their pants waiting for an attack but don't know where it's going to be. 

You are obviously not a mil-type or a tactician.

 

Ordering F-18s to take off is a tell, is it not, unless you think F-18s take off from a Boston Whaler or a Riva Yacht or a Dhow? Adversaries like Iran would know where US aircraft carriers are. Even the Houtis have that capability. If aircraft take off, the flight path is pretty much known. The Houstis would know where they themselves are, so they would know both the target and the flight origin. Extrapolating the flight path is pretty easy. Load up the anti-aircraft guns and take out a few khawaja infidels.

 

Anyone hacking SIGNAL would also know the time of take off, as Hegseth specifically ordered it. Adversaries know the speed of F-18s, so would be able to guess where and when they could intercept the aircraft.

 

It's all really easy to understand if one uses his brain, provided he has one in working order.

1 hour ago, frank83628 said:

Did 13 soldiers die and 80 billion in equipment get seized?

They don’t care

1 hour ago, dinsdale said:

The immaturity of some on here is astounding. I'm starting to the think this forum is being flooded by brainless idiots. It's simply pitiful. The scary thing is it reflects a large amount of people globally (in the west) that have the mind virus. Bring on the mid terms. Maybe they'll shut up after that. The Dems have NO ONE to run.

Its sounds more than it is, because you/we are in that circle, but 'the west, is actually only 13% of the world, I come into contact with a wide variation of nationalities here on a daily basis, Trump is never mentioned, those outside the MSM bubble people  don't care. I would say that of the times the orange Jesus was mentioned, a good 70+ were in favour of him, not so much in reasons why, but many said time for change. So despite what the screaming, frothy mouthed, Die hards here say, they are actually a minority.

5 minutes ago, mogandave said:

They don’t care

Kind of like a POTUS who had to be informed by a journalist that 4 US soldiers are missing on the Belarus-Lithuanian border.

 

"I don't know anything about that", said the so-called Commander-in-Chief.

2 minutes ago, Walker88 said:

Kind of like a POTUS who had to be informed by a journalist that 4 US soldiers are missing on the Belarus-Lithuanian border.

 

"I don't know anything about that", said the so-called Commander-in-Chief.

How are thirteen dead, $80B in arms abandoned to out enemies, and twenty years of blood and treasure flushed down the toilet intentionally “kind of like” the president not being aware of four missing soldiers? 

 

Do you not care at all that you have no integrity? 

Posts using derogatory and toxic nicknames or intentional misspelling of people’s names will be removed. If you don’t want your post to be removed, spell people’s names correctly, this applies to both sides of the political debate.

7 minutes ago, mogandave said:

How are thirteen dead, $80B in arms abandoned to out enemies, and twenty years of blood and treasure flushed down the toilet intentionally “kind of like” the president not being aware of four missing soldiers? 

 

Do you not care at all that you have no integrity? 

So you are welcome to go back to Afghanistan and remove all of that equipment.

 

How many soldiers and contractors would you have been willing to sacrifice to remove that equipment, which would have taken months? The 5000 Taliban jihadis 45 ordered released from prison were some who carried out that airport bombing. They also now run Afghanistan. Just getting out US troops, agency personnel and Afghans who had assisted the US gave some of the released Taliban prisoners the chance to do the suicide bombing. Imagine if Biden decided to spend months removing that $80 billion in equipment. Hundreds, maybe thousands of US troops and contractors killed?

 

Have you no brains?

Just now, Walker88 said:

So you are welcome to go back to Afghanistan and remove all of that equipment.

 

How many soldiers and contractors would you have been willing to sacrifice to remove that equipment, which would have taken months? The 5000 Taliban jihadis 45 ordered released from prison were some who carried out that airport bombing. They also now run Afghanistan. Just getting out US troops, agency personnel and Afghans who had assisted the US gave some of the released Taliban prisoners the chance to do the suicide bombing. Imagine if Biden decided to spend months removing that $80 billion in equipment. Hundreds, maybe thousands of US troops and contractors killed?

 

Have you no brains?

Bla bla bla.

 

 

Hesgeth and Waltz should both be fired, and they should quite possibly face prison sentences for this rather reckless breach  of security. In some countries they would be facing a firing squad. Neither of them are even close to being qualified for their positions and this is simply a reflection that they are completely out of their league. 

2 minutes ago, spidermike007 said:

Hesgeth and Waltz should both be fired, and they should quite possibly face prison sentences for this rather reckless breach  of security. In some countries they would be facing a firing squad. Neither of them are even close to being qualified for their positions and this is simply a reflection that they are completely out of their league. 

All the sudden the left is demanding people be fired. 

 

You’re so pathetically predictable. 

36 minutes ago, mogandave said:

Bla bla bla.

 

 

Typical MAGA response:

 

When faced with reality, plant your flag two standard deviations left of the mean on the IQ Bell Curve, square in the heart of MAGAstan.

2 hours ago, BLMFem said:

They'd know that an attack was coming.

They'd know when the attack was coming.

They'd know what weapons were going to be used.

 

Please stop making a fool of yourself. It's embarrassing to watch.

Those are all solid points. Also worth considering, based on Spiegel’s reporting, is that it’s safe to assume the personal mobile devices of Hegseth, Waltz, and Gabbard aren’t secure. That means that Signal chat group was essentially an open channel, thus whatever Goldberg at The Atlantic was reading, so were the Russians, the Chinese, and possibly the North Koreans and the Iranians as well. So, if that attack plan had been targeting any of the U.S.’s more formidable adversaries, then chances are none of those American planes would have made it back home.

 

Also, if a blunder of this magnitude had been made by Hegseth, Waltz, and Gabbard’s Russian counterparts, one could safely say they’d have already “fallen out of windows.” In most other parts of the world, you simply don’t make a mistake like that and simply walk away from it.

16 minutes ago, Walker88 said:

Typical MAGA response:

 

When faced with reality, plant your flag two standard deviations left of the mean on the IQ Bell Curve, square in the heart of MAGAstan.

The reality is that your entire post was nonsense. No one would have had to go back for anything had the withdrawal been a little better thought out. 

 

But keep lying brother, it’s all you have.

A month ago the NSA sent at all hands message to the entire intelligence community that SIGNAL can be hacked by Russia, China, Israel, Iran and North Korea.

 

About ten days ago the DCI Ratcliff sent a message to all current and former agency employees who still know classified intel that SIGNAL should not be used if anything currently or formerly classified was to be discussed.

 

Despite that, Waltz, Hegseth, Gabbard, Ratcliff and Witkoff used SIGNAL to discuss attack plans for Yemen, with Hegseth stating two hours before the attack what was going to be done. Witkoff was using an iPhone in a hotel in Moscow to be part of the chat.

 

Come on, MAGAs, how are you going to spin this eff up?

46 minutes ago, mogandave said:

The reality is that your entire post was nonsense. No one would have had to go back for anything had the withdrawal been a little better thought out. 

 

But keep lying brother, it’s all you have.

What lie? Google can be your friend, even if you lack access to classified intel. Most is all public now,

 

You MAGAs live in a fantasy world.

8 hours ago, Walker88 said:

What lie? Google can be your friend, even if you lack access to classified intel. Most is all public now,

 

You MAGAs live in a fantasy world.

Have you no brains? 

 

Your seething hate for Trump and the US has blinded you. 

 

To appease the Iran, Biden took the Houthis off the terrorist watch list, and let them attack American ships over 100 times. 

 

Trump put the Houthis back on the terrorism watch list, and is killing them. 

 

Oh no, a “journalist” was accidentally added to the call, let’s fire everyone and go back to appeasing Iran.