robz Posted March 29 Posted March 29 Lately, the Thai authorities have seized a lot of cheap steel. 1
superal Posted March 29 Posted March 29 13 hours ago, MikeandDow said: more than one construction project collapsed, and since 21 it has been a requirement buildings are to be earthquake-proof building design Currently, developers are forced to design and build quake-proof structures, but the country lacks follow-up campaigns to check on the state of buildings. typical Thai !! no enforcement Ordinary Thai domestic houses are mostly built with cheat building blocks and only a single wall . No double walls with a cavity . They will have little resistance to any earthquake . The high rise that collapsed looked to me , when I first saw the video , that it was built above a sink hole because it dropped vertically . Then I saw the support pillars which to me looked to be too small and certainly not earthquake resistant . 1
stevenl Posted March 29 Posted March 29 11 minutes ago, Aussie999 said: Strange, my landlord, an ex-military diver, and voluntary Thai police, and his qualified mates, were all refused... No idea about your landlord.
Popular Post stupidfarang Posted March 29 Popular Post Posted March 29 6 minutes ago, MikeandDow said: And you do !! I very much doubt it !! Thai construction is very much in the dark ages No qualiy in construction, No safety, Coruption ! workers on site in flip flops and you are saying thats ok !! go get a life ! getting upset are you? Being challenged on your Thai hate posts? Your comments are general ill informed. H&S is lacking in some places, but you are painting the whole industry as "in the dark ages" and "corrupt". Are you based in Thailand and if you are then please bring your "proof" to the media and expose all the "Facts" you seem to have. 2 3 2
Popular Post Rampant Rabbit Posted March 29 Popular Post Posted March 29 2 hours ago, carlyai said: My wife was being operated on in the Bangkok Pattaya hospital during the earthquake. I initially didn't know what was going on as staff were rushing everywhere and I guessed the hospital was being evacuated. Thought it was a fire as people were looking up at the top floors and one nurse gesturing with her hands things falling down. I had to ask someone outside what was happening and they said an earthquake. I just wandered back in the main door to wait for my wife. Bit disorganised and I'd say not many evacuation drills had been carried out. The good news was wifey was all good and a nurse stayed with her in the operating theatre and in recovery while all other staff were evacuated. Anyone see any police helping? totally effin absent 3
Popular Post supersomchai Posted March 29 Popular Post Posted March 29 The big question is how much hidden damage was sustained by the buildings in that got shook up.How badly have they been weakened ?And will it be covered up? 2 2
poyai111 Posted March 29 Posted March 29 Jamal Bowman acolyte pulls the emergency lever, why? b Because our leaders are clueless and have been caught unprepared - proof? Witness the recovery crew at the site of the collapsed buildng in Chatuchak - aimless, confused and leaderless. A leader with a whistle giving commands which become compellingly assertive by means of the incessant use of said whistle is all that is needed to invigorate the heroic response which the occasion demands. 1
Popular Post sandyf Posted March 29 Popular Post Posted March 29 2 minutes ago, issan101 said: ASEAN NOW is not a serious news reporting outfit. In their headline they claim that a building collapsed, they forget to mention that it was under construction. Then we have equally absurd comments from wan-be structural engineers that the columns were flimsy. Quite, according to some comments the BK skyline should now be level. You would think that water cascading from rooftop pools would be an indication of resiliance. There is a saying about swallows and summer. 1 3
CharlieH Posted March 29 Author Posted March 29 Getting derailed into construction methods/techniques.....posts removed. 2
Chaspul Posted March 29 Posted March 29 Read, early on in BBC reports that this was going to be a government building that collapsed. Say no more, how many brown envelopes to avoid mandatory earthquake inspections?? Can only be government led by PM responsible for this collapse. 1 1 1
Popular Post Ralf001 Posted March 29 Popular Post Posted March 29 5 minutes ago, sandyf said: Quite, according to some comments the BK skyline should now be level. You would think that water cascading from rooftop pools would be an indication of resiliance. There is a saying about swallows and summer. Roof top pools act as a Tuned Liquid Damper often used in tall buildings to mitigate the effects of wind or seismic activity. 2 3 1
Popular Post This Guy Posted March 29 Popular Post Posted March 29 16 hours ago, MikeandDow said: Thai Constuction !! there is No quality or safety in Thai construction no standards in design design approval by coruption so what do you expect !! Yeah, like WTC, 3 buildings collapsed because of their superior construction eh? This one which collapsed in BKK was not completed and I'd hazard a guess that the support walls and even the main columns were not yet fully cured on the upper levels. Without the walls it could cave like a house of cards. But hey, you just go on with your Thai bashing. 5 1 1 2
MikeandDow Posted March 29 Posted March 29 14 minutes ago, stupidfarang said: getting upset are you? Being challenged on your Thai hate posts? Your comments are general ill informed. H&S is lacking in some places, but you are painting the whole industry as "in the dark ages" and "corrupt". Are you based in Thailand and if you are then please bring your "proof" to the media and expose all the "Facts" you seem to have. Dont need to Paint the whole industry as "in the dark ages" and "corrupt" because it is. Proof look around you or do you have blinkers on !! 1 1 1 1
kingstonkid Posted March 29 Posted March 29 13 hours ago, MikeandDow said: Just heard in bangkok people cannot get home no buses no trains no mrt taxi fares have tripled this is the thai goverment emergency resopnse strand people !!! GF did not get home until midnight from victory. The real test of buldings is us. With all the EXPATS living in big buldings we should be able to get an idea of what it is like with damage 1
ikke1959 Posted March 29 Posted March 29 47 minutes ago, Aussie999 said: Yeah, I remember the tsunami, Thailand refused outside help... also refused qualitied farang divers, living in Phuket. They need a work permit which will take about 4 weeks to be finished with all the paperwork....Said many times, outdated laws and rules that are not workable anymore in this century.. But Thailand never wants help from abroad
sandyf Posted March 29 Posted March 29 13 minutes ago, Aussie999 said: Do you know him, or his abilities... you simply seem to be making an argument, simply to argue. I know what he said, can only take it you agree. " wouldnt trust a local to hammer a nail in"
Baba Naba Posted March 29 Posted March 29 I live in Chiang Mai, Thailand which was 600 miles from the epicenter. Bangkok was 870 miles away. My house shook violently and swayed dramatically as my car rocked back and forth in the carport. After going through many tremors and quakes on the Adak, Alaska in the Aleutian chain where our island was surrounded by 3 active volcanos, this one actually scared me. I knew it had to have been at least a 7. Luckily nothing cracked and the house held up well although my pool looked like an angry sea! 😱 2
Rimmer Posted March 29 Posted March 29 A post from a news troll has been removed @issan101 Don't like the copy then don't read it but DO NOT leave your derogatory comment on here for others to read "Smoke me a kipper, I'll be back for breakfast!" Arnold Judas Rimmer of Jupiter Mining Corporation Ship Red Dwarf
Rampant Rabbit Posted March 29 Posted March 29 14 hours ago, MikeandDow said: more than one construction project collapsed, and since 21 it has been a requirement buildings are to be earthquake-proof building design Currently, developers are forced to design and build quake-proof structures, but the country lacks follow-up campaigns to check on the state of buildings. typical Thai !! no enforcement But that was a 7.4, they "upgraded it in 2021..........probably like air pollution raised the limit to whats "safe" Theres a big difference between 7and 7.4 In 2007, the capital was designated as earthquake-prone and legislation stipulated that new buildings 15 metres or higher must be built to withstand a 7.0-magnitude quake.
seajae Posted March 29 Posted March 29 the collapsed building was being done by the govt using a chinese construction company with chinese materials, explains a lot. 1 2 1
ChaiyaTH Posted March 29 Posted March 29 11 hours ago, Patong2021 said: Looks to me like the typical Pancake collapse. As one floor collapses onto the lower floor, the floor cannot support the weight and it in turn collapses. It is similar to the collapse of the WTC twin towers on 9/11. Except that those were build to withstand such possible things X5-10 yet still collapsed in such manner.. Well you know where I am heading but let's stay on topic. The visuals were indeed almost identical as the one we had here yesterday, a real collapse. Hence every other building in BKK is still standing as well.
RUSirius Posted March 29 Posted March 29 Anyone live on the blue line below at Pohan Yotin to Sukhumvit? Any damaged stations? I use many of these stations. I understand MRT and BTS running now, but yellow and pink maybe not. Thank you 🙏 1
ChaiyaTH Posted March 29 Posted March 29 23 minutes ago, Baba Naba said: I live in Chiang Mai, Thailand which was 600 miles from the epicenter. Bangkok was 870 miles away. My house shook violently and swayed dramatically as my car rocked back and forth in the carport. After going through many tremors and quakes on the Adak, Alaska in the Aleutian chain where our island was surrounded by 3 active volcanos, this one actually scared me. I knew it had to have been at least a 7. Luckily nothing cracked and the house held up well although my pool looked like an angry sea! 😱 I thought it was quite funny until my ultrawide monitor started rocking that hard it almost fell on the floor. Is like you are shaking your own desk with 2 hands on purpose using quite some force. The funniest part was all thais outside looking up in the sky, maybe the alien mothership arrived. 1
ChaiyaTH Posted March 29 Posted March 29 2 minutes ago, RUSirius said: Anyone live on the blue line below at Pohan Yotin to Sukhumvit? Any damaged stations? I use many of these stations. I understand MRT and BTS running now, but yellow and pink maybe not. Thank you 🙏 You are aware that tunnels are like one of the safest places for earthquakes right? 1 1
Popular Post RUSirius Posted March 29 Popular Post Posted March 29 1 minute ago, JJ-Thailand said: Now it will be hard to sell a condo in Bangkok. Agreed. I had always said the right place, the right price. 25 years wife could live rent free after my death. Between taxes, transfer hassles, price, general build quality and now potential structural damage. No way. 1 1 1
Aussie999 Posted March 29 Posted March 29 30 minutes ago, ikke1959 said: They need a work permit which will take about 4 weeks to be finished with all the paperwork....Said many times, outdated laws and rules that are not workable anymore in this century.. But Thailand never wants help from abroad true, but in emergencies a work permit should be waived. 1
Popular Post Chris BKK Posted March 29 Popular Post Posted March 29 I understand that concrete takes up to 28 days to gain full strength, so if adding floors to quickly then the concrete is not strong enough to support above floors. Usual cost cutting and shody workmanship by engineers, Was this a Chinese construction company. Typical dodgy practises 1 1 2
RUSirius Posted March 29 Posted March 29 3 minutes ago, ChaiyaTH said: You are aware that tunnels are like one of the safest places for earthquakes right? I did mention they were open. Guess you missed that while jumping to berate me I asked about the stations and yes, they too are underground. There are long escalators in all. I don't fancy walking 200 steps just to go to Big C or whatever thanks 1
ChaiyaTH Posted March 29 Posted March 29 1 minute ago, RUSirius said: I asked about the stations and yes, they too are underground. There are long escalators in all. I don't fancy walking 200 steps just to go to Big C or whatever thanks I'd be more worried about the actual escalator plates, last time I walked in don muang (where someone lost her foot) those plates still felt loose as fk. Just take the stairs. 1
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