I've had several encounters speaking Thai with woman who use  'krap' instead of 'ka'.  These women were clearly not 'tomboys', and I got the impression that they would only do this with a foreigner not a Thai man.  What is the meaning of this?  Are the trying to be cute, or is it mockery?

7 minutes ago, thaiman said:

I've had several encounters speaking Thai with woman who use  'krap' instead of 'ka'.  These women were clearly not 'tomboys', and I got the impression that they would only do this with a foreigner not a Thai man.  What is the meaning of this?  Are the trying to be cute, or is it mockery?

 

It's to teach us how to say it, they do it with kids too.

5 minutes ago, rattlesnake said:

 

It's to teach us how to say it, they do it with kids too.

Please explain.

 

I usually hear it from vendors after I've purchased something.  I'll say "Kop khun krap" and she will respond with "krap" instead of 'Ka"  What is she trying to teach in this situation?

3 minutes ago, thaiman said:

Please explain.

 

I usually hear it from vendors after I've purchased something.  I'll say "Kop khun krap" and she will respond with "krap" instead of 'Ka"  What is she trying to teach in this situation?

 

It's just a habit they have with non-Thai speakers and with children, there isn't any explanation other than that, at least not to my knowledge. Don't overthink it :)

how feminine do you look?
and what shade of lippy you using at that time of day?
maybe a wee bit too much blush
who can tell the goings on in a Thai womens head
or in my case any nationality

 

24 minutes ago, thaiman said:

These women were clearly not 'tomboys', and I got the impression that they would only do this with a foreigner not a Thai man

She's fed up with foreigners hitting on her, she does not want a relationship with a stinky old foreigner, she's letting you know. 

 

24 minutes ago, thaiman said:

I've had several encounters speaking Thai with woman who use  'krap' instead of 'ka'.  These women were clearly not 'tomboys', and I got the impression that they would only do this with a foreigner not a Thai man.  What is the meaning of this?  Are the trying to be cute, or is it mockery?

It's definitely not mockery and I don't think they're trying to be cute. I think they're actually trying to be more respectful. In a way, they are talking to you as if they were another man on your own level by breaking down the gender barrier. Think of it as a woman in English saying "yes, sir." Anyway, don't overthink it. It happens to me sometimes too, and it never bothers me at all. 

They do tend to talk a lot of 'krap'..

 

The Don.

I always find women use "Krap" when it is business related.

Very common.

7 minutes ago, rattlesnake said:

 

It's just a habit they have with non-Thai speakers and with children, there isn't any explanation other than that, at least not to my knowledge. Don't overthink it 🙂

You tink too mut!

Shouldn't this read "women TALKING crap"?

13 minutes ago, thaiman said:

Please explain.

 

I usually hear it from vendors after I've purchased something.  I'll say "Kop khun krap" and she will respond with "krap" instead of 'Ka"  What is she trying to teach in this situation?

I have seen many videos of farangs speaking some Thai but instead of saying khrap they let it die halfway so that th listener hears "ka" only and then the listener will eiher ignore it or try to correct the male farang speaker.   Or maybe they really are only saying "ka".

18 minutes ago, thaiman said:

Please explain.

 

I usually hear it from vendors after I've purchased something.  I'll say "Kop khun krap" and she will respond with "krap" instead of 'Ka"  What is she trying to teach in this situation?

Are you acting impolite or not paying her enough or a incorrect amount? Perhaps she has good reason to say "krap". Just sayin. 

42 minutes ago, thaiman said:

I've had several encounters speaking Thai with woman who use  'krap' instead of 'ka'.  These women were clearly not 'tomboys', and I got the impression that they would only do this with a foreigner not a Thai man.  What is the meaning of this?  Are the trying to be cute, or is it mockery?

 

Never experienced what you're saying and  doubt that I will. 

 

Thai folks don't change things because of farangs.

12 minutes ago, jvs said:

I always find women use "Krap" when it is business related.

Very common.

Yes, I only experience this with vendors or clerks.

19 minutes ago, SAFETY FIRST said:

She's fed up with foreigners hitting on her, she does not want a relationship with a stinky old foreigner, she's letting you know. 

 

Not everyone is going to have the exact same experiences that you do...

Only thing I can think of is they are correcting your pronunciation. Are you pronouncing 'krap' as 'crap' by any chance? ครับ is a high tone word, if your tone is off with this polite participle, might sound unpleasant to some listeners. If it's happening with multiple listeners, pronunciation is likely off. If you're convinced your pronunciation is fine, why don't you ask them why they're saying krap instead of ka.

16 minutes ago, thaiman said:

Yes, I only experience this with vendors or clerks.

OIC, maybe vendors or clerks have special permission to do this.

 

How quaint. 

12 minutes ago, SAFETY FIRST said:

You can't help yourself. 

 

I'm convinced, you are one of those nasty foreigners I see everyday.

 

Beware, if you cross my path, being a goose I will teach you a lesson that you will never forget.

 

Always a tough guy behind his warrior keyboard. 

 

You're going to goose him as he passes?  By the way, two foreign insults in one post.  Stinky and nasty.

The only person I know who speaks like that is a lesbian, Can you speak Thai to a good level? 

6 minutes ago, fredwiggy said:

You're going to goose him as he passes?  By the way, two foreign insults in one post.  Stinky and nasty.

And here's the guy who is glued to the screen. 

 

I've woken up all the haters. 

 

Just now, SAFETY FIRST said:

And here's the guy who is glued to the screen. 

 

I've woken up all the haters. 

 

Assuming again little man. You're consistent, and that's why it's easy to comment on your foreigner bashing.

Men using "ka"....

 

Yes.

What of it?

 

25 minutes ago, SAFETY FIRST said:

You can't help yourself. 

 

I'm convinced, you are one of those nasty foreigners I see everyday.

 

Beware, if you cross my path, being a goose I will teach you a lesson that you will never forget.

 

Always a tough guy behind his warrior keyboard. 

 

Flippin ek...   you went from zero to incendiary there threading another forum member.... 

 

A tat over the top and unhinged don't you think ?

52 minutes ago, rattlesnake said:

It's just a habit they have with non-Thai speakers and with children, there isn't any explanation other than that, at least not to my knowledge. Don't overthink it :)

 

100% this - there really is nothing more to it.... 

 

and... IF you have spoken Thai, the its just a very simple habit the other person has evolved when speaking with a foreigner in an area of high tourist footfall. 

 

Consider it respectful - the kind of female vendor who speaks to a foreigner in such a manner is giving an example of the 'correct pronunciation', even if you have pronounced your Thai correctly - its just habit and shows good intentions - nothing more than that.

7 minutes ago, richard_smith237 said:

 

Flippin ek...   you went from zero to incendiary there threading another forum member.... 

 

A tat over the top and unhinged don't you think ?

Yep, I've woken up ALL the haters. 

 

You do know that you can keep scrolling past comments without being hostile. 

 

6 minutes ago, richard_smith237 said:

 

100% this - there really is nothing more to it.... 

 

and... IF you have spoken Thai, the its just a very simple habit the other person has evolved when speaking with a foreigner in an area of high tourist footfall. 

 

Consider it respectful - the kind of female vendor who speaks to a foreigner in such a manner is giving an example of the 'correct pronunciation', even if you have pronounced your Thai correctly - its just habit and shows good intentions - nothing more than that.

 

Yes, slight correction to my post: they also do it with foreigners who speak Thai, so it doesn't necessarily indicate one doesn't speak Thai well.

2 minutes ago, SAFETY FIRST said:

Yep, I've woken up ALL the haters. 

 

You do know that you can keep scrolling past comments without being hostile. 

 

Quite hypocritical don't you think, considering your content has by far been the nastiest in this thread.... 

 

Those in glass houses... 

 

You first suggested the Op is a stinky old foreigner and that 'she's letting him know'.....

You then threatened the guy who lightly retaliated....

 

Take a look in the mirror 

Just now, richard_smith237 said:

 

Quite hypocritical don't you think, considering your content has by far been the nastiest in this thread.... 

 

Those in glass houses... 

 

You first suggested the Op is a stinky old foreigner and that 'she's letting him know'.....

You then threatened the guy who lightly retaliated....

 

Take a look in the mirror 

Please go away, go and bother someone else. 

 

I never comment or react to your comments, grow up. 

 

9 minutes ago, SAFETY FIRST said:

Yep, I've woken up ALL the haters. 

 

You do know that you can keep scrolling past comments without being hostile. 

 

Why do you bother coming on a foreign forum and just bash foreigners? Lumping all of us in as stinky, nasty, dirty, drunk criminals when it's but a tiny fraction of those that live here. This isn't a tourist forum, where un knowing tourists come to another country and disrespect it because they either don't know better or don't care. Most of the members here live here or did, and know more of what goes on here than tourists do. Don't you understand trashing others,especially others you don't know, meaning probably everyone here, IS being hostile? You don't know anyone here, and even threaten some. You do that to anyone like me in public you're hitting the ground. I recommended before, maybe join a Thai forum so you can be with your "buddies" and still trash us.