https://futurism.com/neoscope/government-study-nonexistent-link-vaccines-autism

 

"Despite a mountain of scientific evidence concluding there's no link between autism and vaccines, noted anti-vaccine figure and health secretary Robert Kennedy Jr. is trying to double down on the long-debunked theory.

As the Washington Post reports, fellow anti-vaccine crackpot David Geier — who has published articles claiming that mercury in vaccines is tied to autism, and was previously reprimanded by state authorities in Maryland for practicing medicine without a license — is joining Kennedy's department as a "senior data analyst" to work on a study once again examining the topic of autism and vaccines."

 

So a crackpot hiring a crackpot. The loonies have indeed completely taken over the asylum.

I had expected people that supported the forceful vaxxing of people who were rightfully skeptical of the experimental muck might be having a moment of quiet reflection. Guess not.

 

Surely democrats can understand why their politically beneficial disinformation and censorship of fact concerning origins of a certain pandemic and experimental vax efficiency has done for science what a moustachioed Austrian did for an ancient peace sign?

 

 

4 minutes ago, SunnyinBangrak said:

I had expected people that supported the forceful vaxxing of people who were rightfully skeptical of the experimental muck might be having a moment of quiet reflection. Guess not.

 

 

I am proud of my support for the Covid vaccines that saved countless lives. But had I known there would be such an anti-vaxx movement among the MAGA crowd I would have been in favor of making it a voluntary matter.

Of course, the anti-vaxxers should then have been denied medical assistance if they got ill from Covid. Because, obviously, one of the many reasons for people to get vaccinated was to ease the pressure on the healthcare providers.

So, no vaxx, no help. 

25 minutes ago, BLMFem said:

"Despite a mountain of scientific evidence concluding there's no link between autism and vaccines, noted anti-vaccine figure and health secretary Robert Kennedy Jr. is trying to double down on the long-debunked theory.

There is no mountain of evidence,

RFK jr hopefully will start the ballrolling with a full and transparent

analysis of this so called "settled"   issue  which is in fact far from proven,settled or set in stone..."science" should not reject scrutiny...things set in stone are more like religion than science.

 

RFK jr is not anti vaccines he is anti rushed,untested and mandatory vacines.

5 minutes ago, BLMFem said:

I am proud of my support for the Covid vaccines that saved countless lives. But had I known there would be such an anti-vaxx movement among the MAGA crowd I would have been in favor of making it a voluntary matter.

Of course, the anti-vaxxers should then have been denied medical assistance if they got ill from Covid. Because, obviously, one of the many reasons for people to get vaccinated was to ease the pressure on the healthcare providers.

So, no vaxx, no help. 

So by this "logic" people who are injured by the vaxx should be denied medical care due to their injury by misadventure? 

I will never forgive democrats for flipping the switch on project fear the day their demented president "won". Gone were msm's death chyrons. We weren't all doomed after all, and yes, as we had been trying to say a disease that needs a test to even know you have it is just not so awful. Disgusting scumbags.

I'm fully in favor of MAGAs avoiding vaccines and instead injecting disinfectant. Make sure they inject their spawn, too. A double dose, just to be safe.

 

And absolutely no polio, smallpox or measles vaccines for MAGAs, along with mandatory home schooling just so they can avoid any chance at stumbling into a Drag Queen Story Hour.

37 minutes ago, BLMFem said:

So a crackpot hiring a crackpot. The loonies have indeed completely taken over the asylum.

 

Yep, that's pretty much the story here...

 

Or to put in another way, what's called GIGO -- garbage in (RFK Jr.) and garbage out (fellow anti-vaccine crackpot David Geier).

 

The Trump Admin and its anti-public health crusade is just getting started. Stand by for much much much more of the same nonsense.  It's going to be a very LONG four years coming.

 

 

4 minutes ago, Walker88 said:

I'm fully in favor of MAGAs avoiding vaccines and instead injecting disinfectant. Make sure they inject their spawn, too. A double dose, just to be safe.

 

And absolutely no polio, smallpox or measles vaccines for MAGAs, along with mandatory home schooling just so they can avoid any chance at stumbling into a Drag Queen Story Hour.

The world would be better off if you drank a gallon of bleach. 

4 minutes ago, BLMFem said:

So, no vaxx, no help. 

How very sad....and I suppose you also disparged taking vitamin C getting outdoors in the fresh air for some exercise,eating a healthier diet

disregarding the fearporn in the media (a very powerful military grade nudge)   any sort of alternative medication no matter how safe they are proven to be....

only the vaccine  saved lives...ohhh and locking poeple in their home ,masks ,ventiltors and ruination of the economy...no I reject your reality and replace it with my own....go study the results from Sweden...latest results not from when "everyone" went mad locking down.

15 minutes ago, BLMFem said:

I am proud of my support for the Covid vaccines that saved countless lives. But had I known there would be such an anti-vaxx movement among the MAGA crowd I would have been in favor of making it a voluntary matter.

Of course, the anti-vaxxers should then have been denied medical assistance if they got ill from Covid. Because, obviously, one of the many reasons for people to get vaccinated was to ease the pressure on the healthcare providers.

So, no vaxx, no help. 

But people with the VAX still got COVID.  

11 minutes ago, Walker88 said:

I'm fully in favor of MAGAs avoiding vaccines and instead injecting disinfectant. Make sure they inject their spawn, too. A double dose, just to be safe.

 

And absolutely no polio, smallpox or measles vaccines for MAGAs, along with mandatory home schooling just so they can avoid any chance at stumbling into a Drag Queen Story Hour.

 

And the UV light? Where would that go?

19 minutes ago, SunnyinBangrak said:

So by this "logic" people who are injured by the vaxx should be denied medical care due to their injury by misadventure? 

That's not logic, that's lame thoughts from a befuddled mind.

21 minutes ago, Etaoin Shrdlu said:

 

And the UV light? Where would that go?

I would love to demonstrate it on the person who came up with the idea.

6 minutes ago, Etaoin Shrdlu said:

 

And the UV light? Where would that go?

UV light is very good at killing off all sorts of nasties...perhaps thats why they wanted everyone locked in their home consuming takeaway junk food and watching MSM fearporn...instead of going outside and getting on with life ?

Just now, BLMFem said:

I would love to demonstrate it on the person that came up with the idea.

You get a woody thinking about it. 

Just now, johng said:

UV light is very good at killing off all sorts of nasties...perhaps thats why they wanted everyone locked in their home consuming takeaway junk food and watching MSM fearporn...instead of going outside and getting on with life ?

 

I live near a National park, and they closed the hiking trails. That's how nuts it was. 

18 minutes ago, johng said:

How very sad....and I suppose you also disparged taking vitamin C getting outdoors in the fresh air for some exercise,eating a healthier diet

disregarding the fearporn in the media (a very powerful military grade nudge)   any sort of alternative medication no matter how safe they are proven to be....

only the vaccine  saved lives...ohhh and locking poeple in their home ,masks ,ventiltors and ruination of the economy...no I reject your reality and replace it with my own....go study the results from Sweden...latest results not from when "everyone" went mad locking down.

According to Wikipedia over 87 % of Swedes got a least one Covid jab as of April 2022. Don't know why you start talking about lockdown other than as a way to deflect.

33 minutes ago, BLMFem said:

obviously, one of the many reasons for people to get vaccinated was to ease the pressure on the healthcare providers.

So, no vaxx, no help. 

 

Wasn't that the goal of the two-week lockdown that lasted two years? 

12 minutes ago, TedG said:

But people with the VAX still got COVID.  

Can I be slightly controversial and point out that there are studies suggesting that the more you vaxed the more you got COVID !

Totally bonkers right ?

2 minutes ago, johng said:

Can I be slightly controversial and point out that there are studies suggesting that the more you vaxed the more you got COVID !

Totally bonkers right ?

Can I be completely non-controversial and say that if that is true then surely you can provide links to said studies.

Because if not then you're right; totally bonkers.

3 minutes ago, TedG said:

 

I live near a National park, and they closed the hiking trails. That's how nuts it was. 

They closed the beaches,parks and gymnasiums  etc  yes it was totally nuts ...but worse than that I believe it was done on purpose.

1 minute ago, johng said:

They closed the beaches,parks and gymnasiums  etc  yes it was totally nuts ...but worse than that I believe it was done on purpose.

Ahh, now comes the good stuff! Please hold off on revealing "THE TRUTH" for a couple of minutes while I get the popcorn.

Crackpot time!

12 minutes ago, TedG said:

You get a woody thinking about it. 

Whatever floats your boat. I don't judge.

4 minutes ago, BLMFem said:

Crackpot time!

 

Cleveland Clinic study

 

https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2022.12.17.22283625v1.full#T2

 

 

The risk of COVID-19 also varied by the number of COVID-19 vaccine doses previously received. The higher the number of vaccines previously received, the higher the risk of contracting COVID-19 (Figure 2)

 

 

 

 

Was there forceful vaccination, or did companies say no vaccine, no employment? No passing it on to colleagues? Companies can issue any rules they think necessary.

Whatever David Geier and his team come up with, I am almost positive it won't be as crackpot as locking down the entire country, destroying billions in wealth, curtailing civil liberties and letting grandma die alone, because of a common cold.

 

We have literally lived through the most crackpot medical failure of all time, and it was stunning.

5 minutes ago, Purdey said:

Was there forceful vaccination,

 

Yes there was forceful vaccination    Hobson's choice is no choice at all

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hobson's_choice

 

A Hobson's choice is a free choice in which only one thing is actually offered. The term is often used to describe an illusion that choices are available. The best known Hobson's choice is "I'll give you a choice: Take it or leave it", wherein "leaving it" is strongly undesirable.

31 minutes ago, johng said:

 

Cleveland Clinic study

 

https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2022.12.17.22283625v1.full#T2

 

 

The risk of COVID-19 also varied by the number of COVID-19 vaccine doses previously received. The higher the number of vaccines previously received, the higher the risk of contracting COVID-19 (Figure 2)

 

 

 

 

 

 

As usual, COVID misinformation spreaders here doing what they do... spreading misinformation that has long been debunked elsewhere... But of course they ignore all that.

 

Cleveland Clinic Study Did Not Show Vaccines Increase COVID-19 Risk

Posted on June 16, 2023

 

"SciCheck Digest

Numerous studies have found that additional COVID-19 shots are generally associated with extra protection against the coronavirus. Many people on social media, however, have shared a preliminary finding from a Cleveland Clinic study and misrepresented it as proving that getting more doses increases a person’s risk of infection.

 

Full Story

COVID-19 vaccines and boosters reduce the risk of severe disease and death. They also offer some protection against infections, although the effectiveness wanes in the months after getting vaccinated, and such effectiveness is lower against the omicron variant, compared with earlier variants of the coronavirus.

...

The researchers also noticed that people who got more vaccine doses prior to Sept. 12, 2022 — the day the bivalent booster became available at the Cleveland Clinic — had a higher rate of testing positive in the following months than people who had gotten fewer prior vaccine doses. But the researchers didn’t find that more doses caused a higher risk of infection. Rather, this finding was an association that could be due to multiple other factors. And studies have generally found that each additional vaccine dose reduces COVID-19 risk." [emphasis added]

 

https://www.factcheck.org/2023/06/scicheck-cleveland-clinic-study-did-not-show-vaccines-increase-covid-19-risk/

 

There's a much longer elaboration in the linked Fact Check report (which forum rules prevent me from quoting any more than the excerpts above) explaining why claims such as those made by the poster here are not factually supported, included not factually supported by the Cleveland Clinic study.

3 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

We have literally lived through the most crackpot medical failure of all time, and it was stunning.

 

Agree 100%  I hope that that some justice/retribution  has begun

and the first precept of medicine  "do no harm"  is restored and reinforced

there also seems to be a need to retrain doctors ( medical community)  to actually think  for them self  not just follow a script !  yes  quite a difficult task.

5 minutes ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said:

spreading misinformation that has long been debunked elsewhere... But of course they ignore all that.

 

I have no one on my ignore list on this here forum  but I am ignoring this.