Hello to everyone, I want to ask if anyone had the same problem as me when entered to Thailand. 
I’m an Italian guy, married to a Thai wife with children living in Thailand. I work in Italy for the summer and winter season, twice a year for a total of approximately 7 months.

When I don’t work I go to Thailand to stay with my family. Actually i don’t have residence in Italy.

 

Last week I flew from Venice to BKK airport with a Visa exempt ( same as many tourists, 60 days ) because my plan was to stay in Thailand for 70 days. I had troubles at immigration office. 
The officer saw my passport and he asked why I still have an old TM6 paper ( March 2023 ). He started asking me some questions. 
Where I live, to show him a ticket for go out Thailand before 60 days ( fortunately I had a booking with AirAsia for a onward ticket Krabi Kuala Lumpur ) and at the end of conversation told me that I made a lot of extension for every permit of stay in Thailand. I want to clarify that every extension was regular, never overstay and never had problems for 13 years. 
He told me that I must ask a visa Non O for next time I come to Thailand or he wouldn’t let me come in. 

I was shocked, these are my entries of the last 2 years ( the date when I got a new passport ).

 

04/2023: enter with  visa exemption (out of Thailand after less of 1 month )

 

09/2023: I enter with visa non O visa 1 year. After 3 months I went to Laos for a border bounce and come back. Got other 90 days, at the end I applied for a 60 days extension at local immigration ( 05/2023 exit )

09/2024: enter to Thailand with visa exemption ( before the ends of 60 days made a 30 days extension at local immigration ) ( 12/2024 exit )

 

01/2025: enter to Thailand with visa exemption 60 days (  fly back to Italy in June 2025 )

In the last years I don’t want to ask for a Non O Visa because I have to stay in Thailand less of 90 days and I moved my residence from Italy to Thailand ( I sold my home in my country and I cannot be residence there ).

 

I want to ask to everyone if I try to ask a Non O Visa online when I work in Italy do you think it would be ok? ( even if my residence is in Thailand now ) 

I can proof that the hotel where I work give me  the room for live ( it’s also write in the paper of salary ).

Does the new visa non O 90 days need financial requirements? 

I would prefer to don’t go to ask a new Visa from Laos or Vietnam for avoid to loose time. 
 

thank you so much for your help and sorry for wrote a very long paper. 

 

From multiple reports, it seems to be getting the 30-day extension on a visa exempt entry that really starts to trigger the problems.  It looks you got one of those less than a year ago so is probably why they told you that.

 

You can apply for a visa if the Thai embassy in Italy through the e-visa system.  Proof of financials is required at all embassies now that they have switched to e-visa.

Get a proper visa!

25 minutes ago, Emath86 said:

I want to ask to everyone if I try to ask a Non O Visa online when I work in Italy do you think it would be ok?

Just picking one part of your OP.

Having a job in Italy has zero impact on obtaining a Non O marriage.

 

I suspect the io noticed past Non O entry. Meaning you have other options vs visa exempt entry. 

Yes a Non O e-Visa has financial requirements. 

400k in Thai bank account for application.

Suggest for ongoing visits to Thailand for total of 6 months + you consider other options. 

 

 

 

30 minutes ago, Emath86 said:

I want to ask to everyone if I try to ask a Non O Visa online when I work in Italy do you think it would be ok? ( even if my residence is in Thailand now ) 

 

No problem.

 

You can get an O-visa for marriage or retirement if over 50.

Doesn't matter how much time you spend outside of Thailand, nor whether you work outside of Thailand.

 

I had an O-visa (retirement), stayed in Bangkok with my girlfriend, worked in China most of the year.  Would return for spring festival to apply for extensions.

1 hour ago, NoDisplayName said:

 

No problem.

 

You can get an O-visa for marriage or retirement if over 50.

Doesn't matter how much time you spend outside of Thailand, nor whether you work outside of Thailand.

 

I had an O-visa (retirement), stayed in Bangkok with my girlfriend, worked in China most of the year.  Would return for spring festival to apply for extensions.

I’m 38 years old, I can ask the Non O Visa family ( have Thai wife and Thai children ). 
I will spend in Thailand about 70-80 days twice a year, not more. 

thank you for your answer!

1 hour ago, DrJack54 said:

Just picking one part of your OP.

Having a job in Italy has zero impact on obtaining a Non O marriage.

 

I suspect the io noticed past Non O entry. Meaning you have other options vs visa exempt entry. 

Yes a Non O e-Visa has financial requirements. 

400k in Thai bank account for application.

Suggest for ongoing visits to Thailand for total of 6 months + you consider other options. 

 

 

 

Yes maybe the system saw a Non O entry.. anyway i will stay in Thailand not more than 70-80 days twice a year. I will try to obtain a non o evisa. 
400k in Thai bank can be a problem, is it still possible to show a minimum monthly income of 40000thb ? 

2 hours ago, Emath86 said:

Yes maybe the system saw a Non O entry.. anyway i will stay in Thailand not more than 70-80 days twice a year. I will try to obtain a non o evisa. 
400k in Thai bank can be a problem, is it still possible to show a minimum monthly income of 40000thb ? 

As long as you are applying at an embassy, shouldn't be an issue if it's proof of income that embassy accepts.

I think immigration officer saw on your passport that you had a marriage visa, so he knows you're married to a Thai and he thinks you can get a proper visa. You're still married so this is the problem why coming too many times with a free visa exemption makes the issue with the immigration. But if for example you were already divorced I don't think you would have an issue to come back to Thailand without a visa or with a tourist visa for example. I mean, why they shouldn't let someone in if he is single or divorced? 

You should use safe entry bro 

When i lived in Thailand my work schedule was 4-6 weeks on and off in another countries.

I worked as a offshore seaman.I had never ever problems when i arrived Thailand.I was married and had kids there at that time.They asked me sometimes why im coming so often and i just explained them and it was ok.

I have never been told to prove return tickets.Last time they asked where i will stay and i named the hotel and the officer just said ok.When i extensed my visa in Bangkok for 30 days more they asked where i stay..name and roomnumber at my hotel.I told the lady and she said good.Get my stamp and left the immigration.

Tourist Visa's are for tourists  You are clearly not a "tourist" by your own admission.  Your luck ran out. Get the proper visa.

42 minutes ago, thai006 said:

You should use safe entry bro 

I’ll try to ask a Non O Visa 90 days but if the request will be rejected my last chance is the safe entry… I don’t want to risk to be denied. 

3 minutes ago, dddave said:

Tourist Visa's are for tourists  You are clearly not a "tourist" by your own admission.  Your luck ran out. Get the proper visa.

yes it’s correct.. I’ll try to ask. Honestly it’s more convenience for me to get a Non O cause I need to renew my Thai driver license and avoid always going to local immigration for extension 30 days..

Your Residence is in Thailand, this is the Point, so you are not a Tourist! Get a proper Visa!

6 hours ago, dddave said:

Tourist Visa's are for tourists  You are clearly not a "tourist" by your own admission.  Your luck ran out. Get the proper visa.

Also
@ujayujay

 

The term "proper" is a joke, while agent-schemes are run by immigration.  ~360 days/year on visa-exemptions are quite acceptable to immigration, with agent-facilitated entries. 

 

They do not set a fixed limit time out of country between visa-exempt / tourist entries, so they can run their greedy little schemes on the edges of some unknown variable - using the fear of arbitrary enforcement as the sales-pitch.   Clearly, agent-service is their preferred method of interaction. 

 

They make a joke of themselves by how they run their operations - might as well dress-up in clown suits.  I do everything "by the book" with them - and yet, I am the one who has often felt be-clowned, by doing so.