Dear Folks,

 

China has used manufacturing to develop advanced robotics production expertise.

The USA, which manufactures its goods in China, lacks this same degree of automation.

So, is the USA doomed?

Is it too late to catch up?

Even now, advancements are progressing exponentially.

What are the betting odds, anyway?

 

 

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/04/23/business/china-tariffs-robots-automation.html

 

This is NOTHING NEW....

This revolution in manufacturing in China began over a decade ago.

 

So then....

What were the Americans even thinking?

Where was the country's leadership?

 

Asleep???

Haha, maybe ask Biden, and he is one who knows how to sleep.

But, this began way before Biden....meaning the decline of America.

Was this decline lead by Wall Street and major investors?

 

Why was this allowed to happen?

 

Such a mystery, to me, during the past 4 decades.

Did/Does America have a secret death wish?

It would seem so.

 

Such a mystery.

Best regards,

Gamma

 

 

 

How is that a good thing, shouldn't we protect jobs?

No. We'll just copy theirs.

28 minutes ago, Trippy said:

How is that a good thing, shouldn't we protect jobs?

 

Forget about jobs.

 

We are at war with China.

Can you not understand  this?

 

We need to manufacture FASTER, BETTER, and for lower cost than China can.

For this, we will NOT BE ABLE to use humans.

 

Humans are no longer needed in the manufacturing process.

This has been almost true for many years.

 

Anyway, what human really wants to work in a factory on the assembly line?

 

 

32 minutes ago, GammaGlobulin said:

 

Forget about jobs.

 

We are at war with China.

Can you not understand  this?

 

We need to manufacture FASTER, BETTER, and for lower cost than China can.

For this, we will NOT BE ABLE to use humans.

 

Humans are no longer needed in the manufacturing process.

This has been almost true for many years.

 

Anyway, what human really wants to work in a factory on the assembly line?

 

 

As someone who had a job my whole life, and had many friends who worked in factories, no I will not forget about jobs.

 

Yes we are in a trade dispute with China, but I would hardly call it a war.

 

I just saw a YT video about making cars in the US, and there are plenty of humans on the assembly line.

 

Plenty of people want those jobs, if they pay well.

They already have 1.4 billion robots.....not sure they need anymore.

Chinese robots are utter rubbish compared to American ones

 

 

3 minutes ago, proton said:

Chinese robots are utter rubbish compared to American ones

 

 

Like these...?

 

 

Regarding the power balance issue between US and China, even more worrisome factor.

It is about their ship building capacity ratio.

In that field, China is 200 times as much as US.

 

ship building capability of usa and china - Google Search

 

 

 

2 hours ago, Magictoad said:

No. We'll just copy theirs.

Whose are "theirs"?

 

Here is a list of robots used in manufacturing (since you seem to lazy to add a link).

 

https://www.visualcapitalist.com/the-growth-of-industrial-robots-by-country/

 

 

Tesla has robots. 

The US and China are both leading the world in robotics.

Not sure if any one country has an edge. 

 

So I don't understand why Trump wants to bring manufacturing back to the US ... since it will all be automated soon ... that part confuses me. 

 

47 minutes ago, save the frogs said:

Tesla has robots. 

The US and China are both leading the world in robotics.

Not sure if any one country has an edge. 

 

So I don't understand why Trump wants to bring manufacturing back to the US ... since it will all be automated soon ... that part confuses me. 

 

Because if you make it yourself, automated or not, you will have a guaranteed steady supply. Remember all the PPE that China withheld during covid?

USA was lost decades ago.

3 hours ago, Trippy said:

Yes we are in a trade dispute with China, but I would hardly call it a war.

 

If you cannot see the reality for what it is...then...FINE....

 

3 hours ago, Will B Good said:

They already have 1.4 billion robots.....not sure they need anymore.

 

Humans can no longer perform as well as robots.

So...

The "robots" you are thinking about will soon be useless for most production work.

 

1 minute ago, GammaGlobulin said:

 

If you cannot see the reality for what it is...then...FINE....

 

 

 

Steady on Simon.

Just now, GammaGlobulin said:

 

Humans can no longer perform as well as robots.

So...

The "robots" you are thinking about will soon be useless for most production work.

 

 

As with any business it will all come down to the impact they have on the bottom line.

20 minutes ago, Will B Good said:

 

 

Steady on Simon.

 

Haha....!

OK.

Great advice....!!!

 

Thank you....BIG TIME.....!!!

 

 

2 minutes ago, GammaGlobulin said:

 

Haha....!

OK.

Great advice....!!!

 

Thank you....BIG TIME.....!!!

 

 

 

Pleasure

20 minutes ago, Will B Good said:

 

As with any business it will all come down to the impact they have on the bottom line.

 

Militarily, however, robotics for manufacturing things such as DRONES is far more important than any American business interests...

I hope you can see my point here, Sir.

 

This is an existential consideration of tremendous import, and one which few seem to appreciate.

 

 

Just now, GammaGlobulin said:

 

Militarily, however, robotics for manufacturing things such as DRONES is far more important than any American business interests...

I hope you can see my point here, Sir.

 

This is an existential consideration of tremendous import, and one which few seem to appreciate.

 

 

 

I would have said operating drones....not manufacturing

19 minutes ago, Will B Good said:

 

I would have said operating drones....not manufacturing

 

No!!!!

 

The question which will decide the next war, meaning HOT WAR, will be the question of which economy, China vs USA, can produce the most drones, the fastest.

Can the USA beat China, these days, in manufacturing...???

 

I seriously DOUBT that it can....BIG TIME...!!!!

 

Note:  Are you still under the misapprehension that it will be HUMANS operating drones...in the coming days?????

 

REALLY.....!!!!!?????

 

2 hours ago, blaze master said:

USA was lost decades ago.

 

I would say....about....

1995.

 

Would you agree that I, as an expert here, am correct?

 

Just now, GammaGlobulin said:

 

I would say....about....

1995.

 

Would you agree that I, as an expert here, am correct?

 

 

You could be right. 95 is also the year BYD was born. 

Just now, blaze master said:

 

You could be right. 95 is also the year BYD was born. 

 

Really????

 

i ACTUALLY did not know this tidbit of info....

Can you please provide some background?

 

Or, if you are too busy, I will just google it.....

No worries.

 

But, thanks for pointing this out......

 

 

4 minutes ago, GammaGlobulin said:

 

Really????

 

i ACTUALLY did not know this tidbit of info....

Can you please provide some background?

 

Or, if you are too busy, I will just google it.....

No worries.

 

But, thanks for pointing this out......

 

 

Really. After you said 95 I typed China 1995 into Google and it came up. Apparently BBK electronics was started n 95 too

24 minutes ago, blaze master said:

Really. After you said 95 I typed China 1995 into Google and it came up. Apparently BBK electronics was started n 95 too

 

Why did you try to tell me that BYD was begun in 1995???

 

Are you trying to lead me down the garden path, or something, with false info????

 

Get with it.

I was in China in 1995, and I never saw NO BYD, back then....

 

5 hours ago, Trippy said:

As someone who had a job my whole life, and had many friends who worked in factories, no I will not forget about jobs.

 

Yes we are in a trade dispute with China, but I would hardly call it a war.

 

I just saw a YT video about making cars in the US, and there are plenty of humans on the assembly line.

 

Plenty of people want those jobs, if they pay well.

Robots don't need sleep, meal breaks, or health insurance. Once the capital outlay is recovered, it's gravy all the way.

 

Every business using humans for repetitive tasks is looking for a robot to do the job instead.

36 minutes ago, blaze master said:

95 is also the year BYD was born. 

 

What a load of GARBAGE....Sir....haha....!

 

No worries.

I am sure that your comment was just a TYPO....

 

But, these days, we have a VERY TINY WINDOW to rectify things if we want to crush the Commies, once and for all.

 

This will require a LOT of concerted effort and cooperation from our allies and friends around the world, members of FREE and DEMOCRATIC nations.

 

It is still not too late.

 

Can TRUMP be the spearhead?

 

For sure, if anybody can, Trump can be a spearhead, just by the looks of him, even.

 

This is NOT a JOKE post, by the way.

 

We have left things TOO LATE.

 

And, we just might be able to recover our game...BUT....

it will definitely be Touch and Go.

 

Does the American People have the WILL.....?

 

IDK.

 

We will need to enlist the help of MEXICO and Canada, but mostly Mexico.

 

We need to set up factories in Mexico...BIG TIME.

 

We need to vastly improve the living standard in Mexico.

We NEED Mexico as our most important ally.....FOR SURE.

 

We need to stamp out corruption in Mexico, and then use Mexico as part of our North American production base.

Then, we will TAKE BACK manufacturing from the Commie-Bandits in China...BIG TIME....!!!!

 

 

1 minute ago, Lacessit said:

Robots don't need sleep, meal breaks,

 

Are you sure?

What happens when they get to be TOO SMART????

 

Have you ever thought of....THAT...????