ALL VACCINES WILL KILL YOU - The evidence is overwhelming

[Red Phoenix]

31 minutes ago, richard_smith237 said:

I don't believe the available information warrants further investigation, particularly when considered against the sheer number of individuals being vaccinated.

Both VAERS and EudraVigilance provide a very strong signal.  That's a grave understatement as we are talking +2 million reports suspecting adverse effects of the jabs, and many studies have shown that there is even serious under-reporting. 

So if that MegaPhone signal doesn't warrant investigation, one could as well stop collecting data with both systems.

There are simply no excuses to start with these investigations, which actually should have started more than 3 years ago.  Note that independent researchers have already done investigations using the VAERS and EudraVigiliance data, and their conclusions are unanymous and call for an immediate halt of the Covid-19 innoculations,  

The biggest scandal being that the Covid-19 jabs are STILL recommended on the childhood vaccination schedule.

[richard_smith237]

53 minutes ago, rattlesnake said:

59 minutes ago, richard_smith237 said:

So who covers the costs ?? - that will always lead to some conspiracist thinking.

 

If the US government can find millions for 'transgender studies' in remote countries, they can find the money for this. I don't think that is a problem.

 

Wholly valid point - no argument from me there at all.

[richard_smith237]

39 minutes ago, Red Phoenix said:

Both VAERS and EudraVigilance provide a very strong signal.  That's a grave understatement as we are talking +2 million reports suspecting adverse effects of the jabs, and many studies have shown that there is even serious under-reporting. 

So if that MegaPhone signal doesn't warrant investigation, one could as well stop collecting data with both systems.

There are simply no excuses to start with these investigations, which actually should have started more than 3 years ago.  Note that independent researchers have already done investigations using the VAERS and EudraVigiliance data, and their conclusions are unanymous and call for an immediate halt of the Covid-19 innoculations,  

The biggest scandal being that the Covid-19 jabs are STILL recommended on the childhood vaccination schedule.

 

Not quite... 

 

The claim that independent researchers have unanimously concluded, based on VAERS and EudraVigilance data, that COVID-19 vaccinations should be halted is not supported by the broader scientific consensus.

 

 

While some groups, such as the World Council for Health, have called for a halt to COVID-19 vaccinations based on their analyses of pharmacovigilance data, these views are not representative of the scientific community at large. The majority of independent researchers and public health authorities continue to support COVID-19 vaccination, emphasising that the benefits outweigh the risks.

For instance, the International Coalition of Medicines Regulatory Authorities (ICMRA) states that real-world data from billions of administered doses show that vaccines have a very good safety profile.

https://www.icmra.info/drupal/en/strategicinitiatives/vaccines/safety_statement

 

 

Thus, while there are isolated calls for halting COVID-19 vaccinations based on interpretations of VAERS and EudraVigilance data, these are not unanimous among independent researchers. The prevailing scientific consensus supports the continued use of COVID-19 vaccines, recognising their role in preventing severe illness and death.

 

That said - given the publicity, I don't see there being any harm in carrying out independent and impartial investigations.

 

But, if an independent and impartial investigation concluded that vaccines were safe and the Covid-19 vaccines were also safe, would you accept that, or simply double down and claim conspiracy ?

 

 

[rattlesnake]

8 hours ago, richard_smith237 said:

But, if an independent and impartial investigation concluded that vaccines were safe and the Covid-19 vaccines were also safe, would you accept that, or simply double down and claim conspiracy ?

 

As far as I am concerned, I would have no choice but to accept it, whether I liked it or not. The truth is the truth.

[MangoKorat]

19 hours ago, Stiddle Mump said:

Didn't think you would answer Sir.

 

I've a feeling you get your info from CNN or the BBC. And any evidence you don't see on those two you think is 'crap'.

Well then, you are mistaken.  I do regularly watch BBC News and I am aware that most conspiracy theory types like to slag off the BBC because they don't like the fact that BBC news stories are verified. However, I have no access to CNN and neither would I want any - there is far too much USA related news in the UK already.

 

Believe it or not, I actually have a brain that has earned me 2 degrees, a first and a 2.1. I am also able to discern the facts that a lad in my class at school had calipers on his legs because he had contracted Polio early in his life - he was unvaccinated because his parents were living abroad when he was born.very young.  I am also able to discern that my kids and my grandchildren have not witnessed anyone at their schools who contracted Polio ans that 'Sir' is 100% down to the fact that almost all school age children in their age group were vaccinated against Polio. Much the same goes for Measles.

 

I would also point you in the direction of recent measles outbreaks in the USA but you'd probably say that I heard those on the BBC and they simply 'picked on' those stories. Doctors in the UK are highly educated people - usually taking 10 years to become a GP.  I trust in what they tell me just as I would expect them to trust my judgement in matters where I have expertise I am not an 'amchair expert'.

 

You didn't think I would reply because I told you I wouldn't.  Anti vaxxers are quite often also conspiracy theorists.  Be honest with yourself - I and other members here could spend hours providing with you with evidence as to the efficacy of vaccines and you would still say we are wrong.  I have a friend who is an anti vaxxer and interestingly,  he also slags off the BBC although he's never provided any evidence as to any bias or false stories that the BBC are guilty of.  As a parallel - Trump made claims that the 2020 election was 'stolen' - millions believed him it seems yet to date, he has failed to provide any evidence to support his claims.  I can tell you one thing though, should he provide any, the BBC would be one of the first to report it.

 

So I've given you my reasons and just as you are, I am entilted to form my own opinions but I do so based on evidence from experts - each to his own. I object to what I believe are ridiculous sories that claim all vaccines are dangerous when its such stories themselves that are actually dangerous.

 

I would suggest though, that you do a little research into life expectancy rates levels over the last 200 years and ask that you consider what part vaccines might have played in those levels more than doubling in developed countries, particularly in the UK.

 

What I'm not about to do is debate the matter further with you or anyone else - I've aleady explained why - I would quite simply be wasting my time because no amount of evidence will change your mind.

 

There will be no further posts from me on this matter.