Your son was vaccinated   he now has Covid  !

I want a second opinion

You are an idiot !

7 hours ago, Red Phoenix said:

You would lose your bet...

Post the peer-reviewed study.

On 5/7/2025 at 2:40 PM, rattlesnake said:

 

A word on virologist Dr. Robert Redfield, who served as the director of the CDC during the Covid crisis, who claims that reports of so-called "Long Covid" are actually a cover-up for mRNA vaccine injury?

 

Since leaving his federal government position at the end of President Donald Trump’s first term in January 2021, Redfield has focused on treating patients in his medical practice.

He explains in the interview that his surgery is flooded with patients who have been led to believe they have “Lond Covid.”

However, he notes that the vast majority of those patients are actually suffering from an injury caused by the Covid mRNA “vaccine” they received.

 

https://slaynews.com/news/ex-cdc-director-long-covid-mrna-vaccine-injury/

 

Dr. Robert Redfield, publicly expressed concerns about the side effects of mRNA COVID-19 vaccines and the implementation of vaccine mandates. He criticised the broad application of vaccine mandates, suggesting that vaccinations should have been prioritised for older and more vulnerable populations rather than mandated for all, including healthy individuals and children.

 

In interviews, Dr. Redfield discussed observing patients who are ill without having had COVID-19, implying that their conditions may be related to vaccine side effects.

 

He has emphasised the need for transparency regarding vaccine side effects and has advocated for more systematic research into vaccines .

 

However, while Dr. Redfield has raised concerns about vaccine side effects, there is no verifiable evidence that he has claimed "Long Covid" is a cover-up for mRNA vaccine injuries. Reports making such claims often originate from sources that may not adhere to rigorous journalistic standards. Mainstream scientific consensus maintains that Long Covid is a legitimate condition resulting from COVID-19 infection, characterised by a range of symptoms persisting after the acute phase of the illness.

 

In summary, Dr. Redfield has voiced concerns about vaccine mandates and the need for transparency regarding vaccine side effects. However, attributing statements to him that Long Covid is a cover-up for vaccine injuries lacks substantiation from credible sources.

I think the big thing to come out of the vaccines was the reports to the SEC. In them it was clear that the vaccines had not been properly tested and any vaccine normally would be. With that in mind who is going to act as a lab rat again?

59 minutes ago, Lacessit said:

Post the peer-reviewed study.

Do your own research !!!

7 hours ago, johng said:

Your son was vaccinated   he now has Covid  !

I want a second opinion

You are an idiot !

 

Speaking of idiots .. it is often said that every village has its idiot, yet some villages seem to be missing theirs entirely.

 

Those very idiots must surely gather in a village of the “missing idiots” - a place that, ironically, is itself lacking its own missing idiot.

 

And here you are, alive and well, polluting this thread with your anti-vaccination drivel....

Just now, Photoguy21 said:

With that in mind who is going to act as a lab rat again?

 

Well certainly not me  If I have any say in the matter,  but as we saw  they will do everything they can to take away the choice..I'm still amazed that a large percentage think that forced "vaccination"  with a novel therapeutic  is or was

acceptable  especially given the IFR  of Covid  being less than  1 percent.

3 minutes ago, richard_smith237 said:

And here you are, alive and well, polluting this thread with your anti-vaccination drivel....

Yes very much alive thanks..much to your disappointment it would seem.

 

Right back at you ,you are polluting this thread with your drivel.

 

Care to reply to the facts  you got the vaccine and yet you still got the virus ?

isn't the vaccine supposed to stop you getting the thing ??

 

22 minutes ago, richard_smith237 said:

 

Dr. Robert Redfield, publicly expressed concerns about the side effects of mRNA COVID-19 vaccines and the implementation of vaccine mandates. He criticised the broad application of vaccine mandates, suggesting that vaccinations should have been prioritised for older and more vulnerable populations rather than mandated for all, including healthy individuals and children.

 

In interviews, Dr. Redfield discussed observing patients who are ill without having had COVID-19, implying that their conditions may be related to vaccine side effects.

 

He has emphasised the need for transparency regarding vaccine side effects and has advocated for more systematic research into vaccines .

 

However, while Dr. Redfield has raised concerns about vaccine side effects, there is no verifiable evidence that he has claimed "Long Covid" is a cover-up for mRNA vaccine injuries. Reports making such claims often originate from sources that may not adhere to rigorous journalistic standards. Mainstream scientific consensus maintains that Long Covid is a legitimate condition resulting from COVID-19 infection, characterised by a range of symptoms persisting after the acute phase of the illness.

 

In summary, Dr. Redfield has voiced concerns about vaccine mandates and the need for transparency regarding vaccine side effects. However, attributing statements to him that Long Covid is a cover-up for vaccine injuries lacks substantiation from credible sources.

 

 

46:40:
"I don't think the vaccine industry should have immunity. I think they should have responsibility like any other manufacturer of any other product for their product and I'm particularly concerned about this now because, you know, my clinical practice right now which I'm still in two half days a week, is largely Covid and Long Covid, but among my, quote, "Long Covid" patients are people that don't have long covid but they have mRNA vaccine injury, right, and there's not a clear path for them to have their injury recognized…"

 

Now put this into perspective with what he stated during a Senate hearing last year: he does not administer the mRNA shots in his own practice because he believes the Spike proteins they contain are “toxic to the body” and "the mRA was persisting much longer than it should" in some patients. He confirmed it crosses the blood-brain barrier and that the jabs don't prevent infection and have side effects which were hidden by the authorities.

 

https://rumble.com/v56ws2r-sen.-ron-johnson-with-cdc-former-cdc-director-dr.-robert-redfield.html

1 minute ago, johng said:

Care to reply to the facts  you got the vaccine and yet you still got the virus ?

isn't the vaccine supposed to stop you getting the thing ??

 

That alone highlights how little you know - It's why I won't bother to entertain your comments seriously.

 

Just now, richard_smith237 said:

I won't bother to entertain your comments seriously.

Well up to you as they say in sunny Thailand ,also sticks and stones...

on an internet forum don't hurt me.

 

I think that you just don't have an answer

because its clear that these "vaccines" do not do what they said on the tin   and they even had to change the definition of a vaccine to try and fool people to accept them...they fooled you right ?

 

Reminder - Pfizer knew by April 2021 that 1,225 people died within 3 months of their COVID vaccine rollout. They also knew the shots were damaging minors’ hearts, with warnings from Israel’s Health Ministry and pediatric groups. Yet, they stayed silent. 

 

Worse, FOIA’d emails reveal a cover-up reaching the highest levels—Dr. Fauci, Dr. Walensky, POTUS, and 15 White House staffers were informed. Instead of transparency, they crafted a 17-page redacted script to lie to the public.

 

In April-May 2021, they downplayed myocarditis and pericarditis in young men and teens as “mild,” “transient,” and “rare,” despite knowing the truth. Then, they launched a summer-long propaganda blitz, using TikTok influencers to push the jab on kids. 

 

Dr. Naomi Wolf, renowned author and whistleblower, exposes this betrayal: “This was a deliberate campaign to mislead and endanger our youth.” This is a scandal of historic proportions. The American people deserve answers. Who authorized the lies? Why were children targeted?

 

Source: Ed Dowd

 

 

 

22 hours ago, Bert got kinky said:

 

FLASHBACK: Fauci threatens to take away the rights of individuals who refuse to get vaccinated.

 

What should the punishment be for this guy?

 

 

 

4 minutes ago, rattlesnake said:

What should the punishment be for this guy?

 

 

Nuremberg 2.0 at the very least.

On 4/25/2025 at 11:02 PM, TallGuyJohninBKK said:

Prominent anti-vaxer and COVID misinformation spreader Dr. Peter McCullough -- who hawks unproven treatments and recently was stripped of his U.S. medical board certifications -- along with various of his anti-vax cohorts are behind a new preprint study that makes discredited claims that COVID vaccines supposedly cause various psychiatric conditions. Experts say the study's claims are based on unverified data and there's no credible evidence to support what McCullough and cohorts are saying.  But hey, that's what McCullough does:

 

Anti-Vaxxers Cite Unverified Study to Claim COVID-19 Vaccines Cause Psychiatric Conditions, Including Homicidal Ideation

"What happened: Prominent anti-vaxxers are citing an April 2025 study, which has not yet been peer-reviewed, to claim that COVID-19 vaccines cause 86 neuropsychiatric side effects, including dementia, schizophrenia, depression, and suicidal and homicidal ideation.

 

A closer look: The study was co-authored by Dr. Peter McCullough, a Texas-based cardiologist who has repeatedly advanced false or egregiously misleading claims about COVID vaccines. [emphasis added]

Big Pharma discredit anyone that goes against their policies.

Saying a doctor is discredited isn't enough any more, as any anti-vax doctor will be discredited.

9 hours ago, BritManToo said:

Big Pharma discredit anyone that goes against their policies.

Saying a doctor is discredited isn't enough any more, as any anti-vax doctor will be discredited.

 

Indeed. "Discredited" by who? That's the real question. Who draws the list of unworthy people?

 

To be rejected by the members of the most nefarious and corrupt cartel ever to exist is more a badge of honour than anything else.

On 5/15/2025 at 2:43 AM, johng said:

Do your own research !!!

Up to you to explain why you believe your statements hold any truth by providing verifiable and credible sources which can be truly fact checked 

9 minutes ago, ThailandRyan said:

Up to you to explain why you believe your statements hold any truth by providing verifiable and credible sources which can be truly fact checked 

Google is pro-vax, so impossible!

Fact checkers, all woke lefties, so impossible!

Big Pharma will discredit all opposition, so impossible!

17 hours ago, rattlesnake said:

Indeed. "Discredited" by who? That's the real question. Who draws the list of unworthy people?

By the fact checkers 😄

 

 

48 minutes ago, ThailandRyan said:

Up to you to explain why you believe your statements hold any truth by providing verifiable and credible sources which can be truly fact checked 

 

Ok here you go   right from those conspiracy theorists at the FDA

 

https://www.fda.gov/news-events/press-announcements/fda-begins-action-remove-ingestible-fluoride-prescription-drug-products-children-market

 

"The U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA) today announced that it is initiating action to remove concentrated ingestible fluoride prescription drug products for children from the market. Unlike toothpaste with fluoride or fluoride rinses, these products are swallowed and ingested by infants and toddlers. They have also never been approved by the FDA. Ingested fluoride has been shown to alter the gut microbiome, which is of magnified concern given the early development of the gut microbiome in childhood. Other studies have suggested an association between fluoride and thyroid disorders, weight gain and possibly decreased IQ."

You’ll need to do better than a press release from 13 May this year… 🤦🏼‍♂️

55 minutes ago, HighPriority said:

You’ll need to do better than a press release from 13 May this year… 🤦🏼‍♂️

 

Actually I posted this on the wrong thread  this is vaccines,

the thread I meant to post on was  about RFKjr  not to seek his medical advice

sorry for the mix up.

4 hours ago, ThailandRyan said:

verifiable and credible sources which can be truly fact checked 

 

Yeah  have a look at this....they own "the science"

 

 

Sadly, the anti-VAX nut jobs in the Trump administration, and yes Kennedy is the main one, have decided to undertake “a co-ordinated wind-down” of 22 mRNA projects supported by the Biomedical Advanced Research and Development Authority, the Government’s biodefence agency".

Once celebrated as a major scientific advancement that allowed for the rapid development of coronavirus vaccines, mRNA technology has since come under scrutiny by conservatives and the Trump Administration.
Michael Osterholm, a University of Minnesota infectious-disease expert, called the targeting of mRNA “dangerous” and “shortsighted”.

This despite recent research which shows great promise in the use of mRNA technology in fighting HIV and cancer.

There's not much chance in hoping that "sanity will prevail" with this bunch of idiots in power, so hopefully whatever research is still going on will show results which will enable this decision to be overturned in the coming years.

 

7 minutes ago, xylophone said:

Sadly, the anti-VAX nut jobs in the Trump administration, and yes Kennedy is the main one, have decided to undertake “a co-ordinated wind-down” of 22 mRNA projects supported by the Biomedical Advanced Research and Development Authority, the Government’s biodefence agency".

Once celebrated as a major scientific advancement that allowed for the rapid development of coronavirus vaccines, mRNA technology has since come under scrutiny by conservatives and the Trump Administration.
Michael Osterholm, a University of Minnesota infectious-disease expert, called the targeting of mRNA “dangerous” and “shortsighted”.

This despite recent research which shows great promise in the use of mRNA technology in fighting HIV and cancer.

There's not much chance in hoping that "sanity will prevail" with this bunch of idiots in power, so hopefully whatever research is still going on will show results which will enable this decision to be overturned in the coming years.

 

As as Post-script to my previous post:-

 

Short for messenger RNA, mRNA is a set of instructions for a gene.

In the case of Covid vaccines, the instructions were for a piece of the coronavirus.

 

In the new study, they are for molecules key to targeting HIV.

 

Dr Sharon Lewin, director of the Doherty Institute at the University of Melbourne, who led the study, called mRNA a “miraculous” tool “to deliver things that you want into places that were not possible before”.

3 hours ago, xylophone said:

Sadly, the anti-VAX nut jobs in the Trump administration, and yes Kennedy is the main one, have decided to undertake “a co-ordinated wind-down” of 22 mRNA projects supported by the Biomedical Advanced Research and Development Authority, the Government’s biodefence agency".

Once celebrated as a major scientific advancement that allowed for the rapid development of coronavirus vaccines, mRNA technology has since come under scrutiny by conservatives and the Trump Administration.
Michael Osterholm, a University of Minnesota infectious-disease expert, called the targeting of mRNA “dangerous” and “shortsighted”.

This despite recent research which shows great promise in the use of mRNA technology in fighting HIV and cancer.

There's not much chance in hoping that "sanity will prevail" with this bunch of idiots in power, so hopefully whatever research is still going on will show results which will enable this decision to be overturned in the coming years.

 

Another possibility is that you could be wrong, though I doubt you have the ability to ackowledge that.

3 hours ago, xylophone said:

Once celebrated as a major scientific advancement that allowed for the rapid development of coronavirus vaccines, mRNA technology has since come under scrutiny

Celebrated for all of 2 seconds...they had tried for years to bring a 'mRNA' product to market  but always failed...  until they where given

"Emergency Use Authorization"  ignoring all the safety protocols literally experimenting on a (largely)  gullible and unsuspecting population,the trials and punishment of the perpetrators for crimes against humanity can't come soon enough !

4 hours ago, xylophone said:

Sadly, the anti-VAX nut jobs in the Trump administration, and yes Kennedy is the main one, have decided to undertake “a co-ordinated wind-down” of 22 mRNA projects supported by the Biomedical Advanced Research and Development Authority, the Government’s biodefence agency".

Once celebrated as a major scientific advancement that allowed for the rapid development of coronavirus vaccines, mRNA technology has since come under scrutiny by conservatives and the Trump Administration.
Michael Osterholm, a University of Minnesota infectious-disease expert, called the targeting of mRNA “dangerous” and “shortsighted”.

This despite recent research which shows great promise in the use of mRNA technology in fighting HIV and cancer.

There's not much chance in hoping that "sanity will prevail" with this bunch of idiots in power, so hopefully whatever research is still going on will show results which will enable this decision to be overturned in the coming years.

 

If you watched his video, he pointed out, quite correctly, that any mutation in the virus made the mRNAs ineffective.  So they're moving the money ($500 Million +/-) over into research into more effective treatments.