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Australia is going mad

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At the election last week there were representatives of five or so parties all standing together happily chatting and handing out leaflets. I thought imagine if the guys on Asean Now could be like that. 

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  • Probably because it offends the huge Muslim population. That's BS about junk food.

  • Total Nanny State! This is part of the reason why I left Australia - my birth country , and the land I love   Thailand feels like Australia was 50 years ago.   By the time Thailand 'cat

  • Harrisfan
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    You don't say why 

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16 hours ago, Harrisfan said:

Won't work. They banned smoking ads. People still smoke.

 

I think they should promote junk food more. Just tax it more. Have a calorie tax.

I think that it all comes down to what the food industry has "hooked" people on eating.  They put so much bad chemicals into foods so that they can stay on the shelf longer but what does it do to the body?  They have tried pricing cigarettes too high for people but that hasn't worked either  I have a health insurance that has over a 100 pages of "benefits" of which 99% aren't applicable to me, I exercise regularly and have done my entire life, never overweight or fat, eat fruits and veggies, avoid fatty foods yet the cost of health insurance is zooming yearly.  In my entire life I have never had a claim, my family members did so I also feel that folks who do take care of themselves should be given a break on health insurance costs.  Mine is partially paid by the US govt due to my pension and they plan to change that so I will have to pay more and they will provide a voucher possibly to determine how much medical treatment might cost!  meanwhile those American oversweights get the same coverage yet need a lot of treatments because of their lifestyle.  I like the calorie tax though healthy foods can be heavy on calories too.  My health insurance also has a wellness card to which I can be awarded for diets, vaccines, exercise, etc but in reality is just like my medicare coverage - only good within the US so when is a benefit not beneficial?  Anyway I do wish the best of health to all here - if we could clear up the air pollution then that might help some but a different subject sorry.

16 hours ago, Harrisfan said:

You don't say why 

It's because ham is offensive to muslims living in South Australia.  :smile:

Reads to me like its more whinging from an elderly white male who is given to hysteria.  Take up a hobby or something so that you stop having these outbursts that suggest a lack of self control.

 

The restriction is limited in scope and applies only to public transport. Advertising by other means remains.  The state has an expanding problem with obesity. Since the state must shoulder much of the medical costs of obesity it is reasonable for the state to try and discourage the consumption of products linked to obesity. It is no secret that  processed meat is high in sodium, saturated fat, nitrates and nitrites .None of this is good for human health and the nitrates and nitrites are implicated in the  skyrocketing colon cancer rates.

 

16 hours ago, roo860 said:

Probably because it offends the huge Muslim population. That's BS about junk food.

 

The BS is your claim.  Premier Malinauskas' Labor Government was elected with a platform that said it would take on the obesity and related health in SA, so this is in effect carrying out an election promise.

 

16 hours ago, Sir Dude said:

Who cares? If you want to eat rubbish, then so be it... accept the consequences.

 

They do not accept the consequences and instead  expect the state to pay their medical and disability costs.

 

As per the state government, according to recent data, around 68 per cent of adults and 27.5 per cent of children across South Australia are currently overweight or obese. Modelling indicates that if no action is taken, the number of people overweight or obese is expected to grow by an additional 1,900 children and 48,000 adults over the next five years.

Alarmingly, recent modelling predicts that without action, children born last year could see as much as a seven-month reduction in life expectancy because of obesity, which is a greater impact than COVID-19.  The research also suggests that experiencing obesity in childhood can lead to obesity in adulthood, and obesity at middle age contributes to the chance of hospitalisation and serious health conditions in middle age. An estimated 38% of Australians are being impacted by health issues that could have been prevented if they reduced their exposure to risk factors including obesity, smoking, alcohol and drugs.

17 hours ago, still kicking said:

Even Tosties ads will be banned.

At least there's no ban on advertising Thai food, probably the best and healthiest food the world.

22 hours ago, SAFETY FIRST said:

Oh well, I always preferred Devon and sauce sandwiches anyway 

 

Tuna and fresh pepper is nice, even better toasted. 

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4 hours ago, roo860 said:

At least there's no ban on advertising Thai food, probably the best and healthiest food the world.

You must be joking. OK, high class Thai food seems OK, but the 5h1t the normal people eat, deep fried in dirty old oil with loads of white rice, plus the liking for KFC etc, must make the Thai diet one of the worst.

1 hour ago, KannikaP said:

You must be joking. OK, high class Thai food seems OK, but the 5h1t the normal people eat, deep fried in dirty old oil with loads of white rice, plus the liking for KFC etc, must make the Thai diet one of the worst.

I must be high class then 🤫

On 5/10/2025 at 10:19 PM, Harrisfan said:

Won't work. They banned smoking ads. People still smoke.

 

I think they should promote junk food more. Just tax it more. Have a calorie tax.

 

Fewer people smoke, including me who gave up in 2000, when smokes were $10 a pack, now $55.

 

There has been a long-term downward trend in tobacco smoking in Australia. The National Drug Strategy Household Survey (NDSHS) found:

  • The proportion of people aged 14 and over smoking daily more than halved from 24% in 1991 to 8.3% in 2022–2023 (AIHW 2024d, Table 2.1).
  • The proportion of people aged 14 and over who have never smoked has increased to the highest levels since the survey began (from 49% in 1991 to 65% in 2022–2023) (AIHW 2024d, Table 2.1; Figure TOBACCO 1).
  • The long-term decline in daily smoking has largely been driven by people never taking up smoking, though the proportion of people quitting smoking has also risen over time (AIHW 2024d, Table 2.1, Greenhalgh et al. 2025, Figure TOBACCO 1).
  • https://www.aihw.gov.au/reports/alcohol/alcohol-tobacco-other-drugs-australia/contents/drug-types/tobacco-and-e-cigarettes
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9 hours ago, theshu25 said:

I think he has not been to thailand either.

I spend most of my time in Thailand

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9 hours ago, ThreeCardMonte said:


One of the benefits of having new liberal leadership.

 

It's only the beginning 

 

Good luck!  You’re going to need it.

You mean Labor.

12 hours ago, roo860 said:

I must be high class then 🤫

Not if you're from Congleton 5555

On 5/11/2025 at 12:28 PM, 4MyEgo said:

Fewer people smoke, including me who gave up in 2000, when smokes were $10 a pack, now $55.

Yes, few people smoke, but no where near the numbers the government claims.   

 

Do you think the people who have been pushed onto the black market cigarettes show up in official data? 

 

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2025-03-03/black-market-tobacco-manchester-cigarettes-four-corners/104978592

 

"According to Victoria Police, there are 1,300 standalone tobacco stores in Victoria, and of those, 1,000 sell some kind of illicit tobacco." 

 

Still $15AUD a packet for grey / black market cigarettes. 

 

On 5/11/2025 at 12:28 PM, 4MyEgo said:

There has been a long-term downward trend in tobacco smoking in Australia. The National Drug Strategy Household Survey (NDSHS) found:

  • The proportion of people aged 14 and over smoking daily more than halved from 24% in 1991 to 8.3% in 2022–2023 (AIHW 2024d, Table 2.1).
  • The proportion of people aged 14 and over who have never smoked has increased to the highest levels since the survey began (from 49% in 1991 to 65% in 2022–2023) (AIHW 2024d, Table 2.1; Figure TOBACCO 1).
  • The long-term decline in daily smoking has largely been driven by people never taking up smoking, though the proportion of people quitting smoking has also risen over time (AIHW 2024d, Table 2.1, Greenhalgh et al. 2025, Figure TOBACCO 1).
  • https://www.aihw.gov.au/reports/alcohol/alcohol-tobacco-other-drugs-australia/contents/drug-types/tobacco-and-e-cigarettes

Once again, these stats do not address the boom in grey / black market cigarettes. 

 

The government has spun it that their huge tobacco tax is stopping people from smoking, and you fell for their BS.  Meanwhile, record amounts of grey / black market cigarettes are being imported and sold to smokers.  These sales do not appear in any official stats. 

 

 

3 hours ago, KhunHeineken said:

The government has spun it that their huge tobacco tax is stopping people from smoking, and you fell for their BS. 

 

Statistics are statistics, naturally you have to discount some of it, and of course there will always be ways to sell smokes illegally, as for believing ABC News or other mainstream news outlets, I'll pass thanks.

On 5/13/2025 at 10:16 AM, 4MyEgo said:

 

Statistics are statistics, naturally you have to discount some of it, and of course there will always be ways to sell smokes illegally, as for believing ABC News or other mainstream news outlets, I'll pass thanks.

Does it matter which TV channel interviews the people?   You are getting their account of the situation.  Does their footage lie?  There's a shop in this clip openly advertising a packet of cigarettes for $12 with a big sign on the shop. 

 

 

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