Maga/Trump's big ugly bill set to kick 14 million Americans off their health care coverage

[gamb00ler]

2 hours ago, Magictoad said:

Like Google always gives real answers. It is NOT the font of all political wisdom. It's and algorithm bought and paid for by the Democrats. Try Googling that!

To quote Pfc. Pyle.... Golly.  Looks like those same Democrats have also corrupted Bing! and DuckDuckGo.... the sky is falling!!!!

 

Shirley a magic toad can provide us with a real search engine... no?

[Lacessit]

2 hours ago, Magictoad said:

To a MILITARY JUNTA Where 70% of the seats are fixed permanently to one military party. Leaving America LOL...

To A South East Asian Dictatorship!

Madness

How much racial strife do you see in Thailand?

 

How many gun massacres occur in Thailand?

 

Do you prefer beached whale American women to slim and beautiful Thai women?

 

Do you prefer American family law to Thai laws?

 

IMO common sense.

[gamb00ler]

2 hours ago, Magictoad said:

Like Google always gives real answers. It is NOT the font of all political wisdom. It's and algorithm bought and paid for by the Democrats. Try Googling that!

Should I explain for you how a search engine works?

[mogandave]

1 minute ago, gamb00ler said:

Should I explain for you how a search engine works?

Please

[Jingthing]

To be clear, yet again -- TRUMP LIED.

He was very clear in his sleazy campaign that he would NOT cut Medicare.

This big ugly bill does what? It cuts Medicare.

An AUTOMATIC 4 percent every year of what is paid to providers.

Dudes -- that is 40 percent over ten years! Do the flippin' math.

So do you think these providers being paid MUCH LESS are going to be in any kind of position but to cut services to patients?!?

[NickyLouie]

4 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

 

So do you think these providers being paid MUCH LESS are going to be in any kind of position but to cut services to patients?!?

 

No they will just have to take less profits , their (Healthcare Executives) the 100's of Washington lobbyists allowed them to milk the teat for way too long ......

 

 

 

 

 

[stevenl]

9 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

Dudes -- that is 40 percent over ten years! Do the flippin' math.

If cumulative it is about 34%.

[Jingthing]

3 minutes ago, stevenl said:

If cumulative it is about 34%.

I see what you're saying. There's a smaller pot to cut 4 percent every year. In any case, a MASSIVE cut and again, TRUMP LIED. 

[Jingthing]

7 minutes ago, NickyLouie said:

 

No they will just have to take less profits , their (Healthcare Executives) the 100's of Washington lobbyists allowed them to milk the teat for way too long ......

 

 

 

 

 

Yeah, they're going to do that. Were you born yesterday? 

[NickyLouie]

Just now, Jingthing said:

Yeah, they're going to do that. Were you born yesterday? 

 

So you're pleased with how corrupt and for profit  US healthcare has been ?

 

 

[WayWokeWhiteGuy]

1 minute ago, Jingthing said:

Yeah, they're going to do that. Were you born yesterday? 

The greedy execs will just cut quality of service and line their pockets.

[WayWokeWhiteGuy]

1 minute ago, Jingthing said:

True dar, but think of the MILLIONS of votes he got from trusting voters who believed him about not cutting Medicare? That's got to be one of the biggest most consequential political lies he's ever told. Make him pay!

Millions of stupid, boot-licking sycophants. 
 

They deserve to lose their benefits 

[Jingthing]

3 minutes ago, NickyLouie said:

 

So you're pleased with how corrupt and for profit  US healthcare has been ?

 

 

Of course not.

I've been for universal health care for the US all my life.

[Jingthing]

1 minute ago, WayWokeWhiteGuy said:

Millions of stupid, boot-licking sycophants. 
 

They deserve to lose their benefits 

It's not only maga cultists that will get hurt. It's most Americans. 

[hotsun]

38 minutes ago, Lacessit said:

How much racial strife do you see in Thailand?

 

How many gun massacres occur in Thailand?

 

Do you prefer beached whale American women to slim and beautiful Thai women?

 

Do you prefer American family law to Thai laws?

 

IMO common sense.

It depends on ones circumstances. Theres more inequality in thailand than the US, but youve never been to the US so you wouldnt know

[WayWokeWhiteGuy]

1 minute ago, Jingthing said:

It's not only maga cultists that will get hurt. It's most Americans. 

They’ll know how to vote next time

[Pouatchee]

On 5/23/2025 at 6:39 PM, Jingthing said:

The Trump regime 2.0 is turning the U.S. into a dystopian hellscape and we're still in the early days of it.

 

and you are calling for reform from thailand? Why dont you go back to the states and start doing something about it rather than crying from the sidelines? easy to get your hands dirty if you are doing nothing, right?

[Jingthing]

13 minutes ago, WayWokeWhiteGuy said:

They’ll know how to vote next time

If there is a real next time. 

Hope for 2026. Less for 2028.

[bunnydrops]

On 5/23/2025 at 4:26 PM, impulse said:

If they're kicking out able bodied adults who refuse to work, I'm all for it. 

 

If they're kicking out illegals who never paid a dime into the system, I'm all for it.

 

 

"It is important to note that immigrants without a documented immigration status still pay payroll and income taxes, even though they rarely become eligible for Social Security benefits. In 2022, people without a documented status paid an estimated $25.7 billion in Social Security taxes. "

 

https://www.cbpp.org/blog/immigrants-contribute-greatly-to-the-social-security-trust-funds-solvency

 

They also pay state taxes when buying food and other items like gas.

[metisdead]

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[impulse]

17 minutes ago, bunnydrops said:

"It is important to note that immigrants without a documented immigration status still pay payroll and income taxes, even though they rarely become eligible for Social Security benefits. In 2022, people without a documented status paid an estimated $25.7 billion in Social Security taxes. "

 

https://www.cbpp.org/blog/immigrants-contribute-greatly-to-the-social-security-trust-funds-solvency

 

They also pay state taxes when buying food and other items like gas.

 

Here's what Congress says:

 

Illegal immigrants are a net fiscal drain, meaning they receive more in government services than they pay in taxes. 

 

Illegal immigrants do pay some taxes. We estimate that illegal immigrants in 2019 paid roughly $5.9 billion in federal income tax, $16.2 billion in Social Security tax and $3.8 billion in Medicaid taxes. However, as the net fiscal drain of $68,000 per person cited above indicates, these taxes are not nearly enough to cover the cost of the services they receive.

 

They said that at the start of 2024.  During Biden...

 

HHRG-118-JU01-Wstate-CamarotaS-20240111.pdf

 

https://www.congress.gov/

[gamb00ler]

2 hours ago, Jingthing said:

To be clear, yet again -- TRUMP LIED.

He was very clear in his sleazy campaign that he would NOT cut Medicare.

This big ugly bill does what? It cuts Medicare.

An AUTOMATIC 4 percent every year of what is paid to providers.

Dudes -- that is 40 percent over ten years! Do the flippin' math.

So do you think these providers being paid MUCH LESS are going to be in any kind of position but to cut services to patients?!?

 

2 hours ago, stevenl said:

If cumulative it is about 34%.

.96 ^ 10 = .6648  so a 33.52% reduction from today's funding

[WayWokeWhiteGuy]

1 hour ago, Jingthing said:

If there is a real next time. 

Hope for 2026. Less for 2028.

more than one way to vote

[WayWokeWhiteGuy]

1 hour ago, bunnydrops said:

"It is important to note that immigrants without a documented immigration status still pay payroll and income taxes, even though they rarely become eligible for Social Security benefits. In 2022, people without a documented status paid an estimated $25.7 billion in Social Security taxes. "

 

https://www.cbpp.org/blog/immigrants-contribute-greatly-to-the-social-security-trust-funds-solvency

 

They also pay state taxes when buying food and other items like gas.

And they take thhe jobs lazy magas won’t do. 
 

Mass migration is the only thing keeping the country going.

[gamb00ler]

4 hours ago, mogandave said:

It’s not high income earners evading taxes.

Many current and former IRS employees disagree with you.

[gamb00ler]

4 hours ago, mogandave said:

You are claiming tax rates are low, but then you use tax-to-GDP to try to show that.

you really need a lot of hand holding on this financial stuff.  

[mogandave]

2 minutes ago, gamb00ler said:

Many current and former IRS employees disagree with you.

For example? 

 

All they need is more funding, yes?

[gamb00ler]

4 hours ago, mogandave said:

Yeah, I can imagine what you’re banging.

You couldn't ever bang my wife.... with your attitude and reading and writing skills you got no shot.  On your best day, the furthest you would get is a polite but humbling rebuke.

[gamb00ler]

2 minutes ago, mogandave said:

For example? 

 

All they need is more funding, yes?

Education is most effective if you put forth the effort on your own.

[mogandave]

The IRS audited over half a million returns last year. That’s surely enough to get all the greedy billionaire tax evaders….