On 6/1/2025 at 7:25 PM, connda said:

The Russian haters will be gleeful about this.  However, this puts us on the brink of a nuclear war this evening.  It will be interesting to see what shakes (thermonuclear-wise) in the next 24 hours.  Russian nuclear doctrine calls for a nuclear counter-attack as would a similar strike on US nuclear assets. Expect some kind of very bright fireworks tonight at least in Ukraine.  My guess is the US/NATO just got the world war that their insane Neo-con want so badly.  Hope we're all here tomorrow.  Even better - I hope this is fake news.  If not?  As Doug Adam's dolphins said in A Hitchhikers Guide To The Universe as the Earth is about to be destroyed, "So long and thanks for all the fish."  

Stick to reading fantasy sci fi novels, your credibility has be shot down much like 30% of Putin's air force.

2 minutes ago, Yagoda said:

So in  other words, you lied.

 

Would you sacrifice American lives on behalf of Ukraine?

Trying to prove you don't support Russia... by continually supporting Russia... is not a good strategy.  The occasional "Putin is a scumbag!  Really, he is!" is as hilarious as it is unpersuasive.  There is literally no one here, including the few who support you, that does not think you are not a Russia supporter.

 

Know what I heard in my years living in Russia, including after the third invasion began?  Exactly the same arguments you make here.  Weird coincidence.

6 minutes ago, Yagoda said:

Dont need a machine to establish that, he is a scumbag of the highest order. Thats not the point in this European fiasco.

Putin is doing what's best for his country and culture, doing better than the western leader have done over the same time period with the exeption of Trump. Look at the state of the western countries that slag Putin off.. not exactly shining examples are they.

3 minutes ago, frank83628 said:

Putin is doing what's best for his country and culture, doing better than the western leader have done over the same time period with the exeption of Trump. Look at the state of the western countries that slag Putin off.. not exactly shining examples are they.

No, hes not. He is a scumbag. Russia may win the war but it will be 100 years before they are anymore than a gas station. 

14 minutes ago, ChicagoExpat said:

Everything you say is right out of "Russian Shill Handbook" -- I think you guys are up to the 156th edition now?  No one is talking about America directly Russia's latest war as a combatant -- only Russia shills.

"WhY DoN'T YoU EnLiSt If YoU SuPpOrT UkRaINe?"  🤣

If you think Ukrainian army are fighting Russia alone, without outside assistance then you are somewhat naïve to say the least

8 minutes ago, ChicagoExpat said:

Trying to prove you don't support Russia... by continually supporting Russia... is not a good strategy.  The occasional "Putin is a scumbag!  Really, he is!" is as hilarious as it is unpersuasive.  There is literally no one here, including the few who support you, that does not think you are not a Russia supporter.

 

Know what I heard in my years living in Russia, including after the third invasion began?  Exactly the same arguments you make here.  Weird coincidence.

Wow. So Ukraine shills, America haters and Trump haters as well as the jew haters and trans lovers here think Im a Russia supporter? Heavens to Betsy! Im destroyed! Where is my fainting couch I am having the vapours.

 

You evidently care what people think of you. I dont.

 

Notice how you deflect: Are you willing to sacrifice an American city for Ukraine?

15 minutes ago, ChicagoExpat said:

Would you risk a nuke on an American city for Russia?

Absolutely not. Now over to you, if you can find time from your frantic Emojiing.

 

Would you risk a nuke on an American city for Ukraine?

15 hours ago, Mavideol said:

simple or very simple, Putin to pack and go back where he came from, he's not welcomed in Ukraine and was never invited to go, assuming you have some friends/relatives/acquaintances and you show up at their place(s) uninvited, they will tell you and will show you (by their actions) that you are not welcomed, what will you do, impose yourself by force, maybe killing all of them or the majority of them or will you leave and go back to you home

Unfortunately, that can happen only in your fantasy world.  

 

Reality. Ever heard of it? In reality, Russia has won the war on the ground. And they won't be giving back any of the annexed territories that are now part of Russia. At this point, the goal of any sane actor would be to stop the war before it escalates to WWIII. And there's only one way that will happen. Diplomacy.  

 

Unfortunately, the drone attack on the Russia airfields and the more recent attack on the Bridge to Crimea make a diplomatic solution all the more difficult.  

 

What the world needs right now is some sane adults. Where are they? Certainly not in DC. What could they possibly be thinking?  The war in Ukraine is not a video game.  And in the end, no one will be able to press the reset button and play another day.  There will be no reboot. 

1 minute ago, Yagoda said:

Wow. So Ukraine shills, America haters and Trump haters as well as the jew haters and trans lovers here think Im a Russia supporter? Heavens to Betsy! Im destroyed! Where is my fainting couch I am having the vapours.

 

You evidently care what people think of you. I dont.

 

Notice how you deflect: Are you willing to sacrifice an American city for Ukraine?

You DO care, though.  You continually argue on behalf of your public persona -- that you are NOT a Russia supporter.  To quote you -- are you lying again?

 

I'm not "deflecting" -- I'm not taking the bait.  There's a difference.  I'll repeat what I've said many times -- literally no one brings up the nukes issue but Russia and its Western supporters.  "Do what Russia wants or it'll be NUKES" isn't realistic, and therefore not worth discussion.

11 minutes ago, frank83628 said:

If you think Ukrainian army are fighting Russia alone, without outside assistance then you are somewhat naïve to say the least

Ah, Frank.  So good to have you back.  I am indeed aware that many countries assist Ukraine with arms and money, and have never argued otherwise.

10 minutes ago, Yagoda said:

Absolutely not. Now over to you, if you can find time from your frantic Emojiing.

 

Would you risk a nuke on an American city for Ukraine?

I use very few emojis in my posts, Yagoda.  Are you lying again?  I DID use these a few days ago, which set you off 🤡🤡🤡  Is that "frantic Emojiing"?  Or are you lying again?

 

 

4 minutes ago, ChicagoExpat said:

I use very few emojis in my posts, Yagoda.  Are you lying again?  I DID use these a few days ago, which set you off 🤡🤡🤡  Is that "frantic Emojiing"?  Or are you lying again?

Again: Would you risk a nuke on an American city for Ukraine?

3 hours ago, Jingthing said:

That would mean the end of Russia. Even friendlies like India and China would then cut Russia off. 

China will not cut off Russia because they know you Yanks would aim for them next. The State Department neocons took advantage of Biden's  weakened sanity to bring Russia and China closer than they have ever been before. 

14 minutes ago, ChicagoExpat said:

You DO care, though.  You continually argue on behalf of your public persona -- that you are NOT a Russia supporter.  To quote you -- are you lying again?

 

I'm not "deflecting" -- I'm not taking the bait.  There's a difference.  I'll repeat what I've said many times -- literally no one brings up the nukes issue but Russia and its Western supporters.  "Do what Russia wants or it'll be NUKES" isn't realistic, and therefore not worth discussion.

So you would risk American lives for Ukraine. At least we know where your loyalty lies.

12 minutes ago, ChicagoExpat said:

Ah, Frank.  So good to have you back.  I am indeed aware that many countries assist Ukraine with arms and money, and have never argued otherwise.

Don't forget military intelligence too. Someone told the DIU where are those Russian bombers were situated

3 minutes ago, pegman said:

China will not cut off Russia because they know you Yanks would aim for them next. The State Department neocons took advantage of Biden's  weakened sanity to bring Russia and China closer than they have ever been before. 

The complex geopolitcal and historical situation that got us where we are today is ignored by the spittlefrothing Ukraine fan boys.

Just now, pegman said:

Don't forget military intelligence too. Someone told the DIU where are those Russian bombers were situated

Ukrainians on the ground

14 minutes ago, Yagoda said:

Again: Would you risk a nuke on an American city for Ukraine?

OK, I'll play your game.  No.  But in the same way I don't worry about pixies swimming in my toilet, I don't worry about it.  Neither could possibly happen.

 

Just knowing how anxious you were to have that answered, I feel such a sense of relief on your behalf.

 

And I know how much "deflection" bothers you -- you didn't answer my "frantic Emojiing" question.  Were you lying again?

7 minutes ago, Yagoda said:

So you would risk American lives for Ukraine. At least we know where your loyalty lies.

And we've known all along where YOUR loyalty lies.

 

Wow, you sure walked into that.

6 minutes ago, ChicagoExpat said:

And we've known all along where YOUR loyalty lies.

With who? Prove it.

 

Would I risk American lives for Ukraine? Never? Would I risk a nuke over Ukraine? Never.  How about you. 

11 minutes ago, ChicagoExpat said:

Neither could possibly happen.

 

There ya go. You would risk it, because you think that Putin, the Greatest Most Evil Man in History Whose Probably Nuts Too wouldnt drop a nuke in retaliation, leading to Pittsburg becoming a smoking hole. Trust Putin do you?

 

You loyalty should be to your country first, not where you came from.

41 minutes ago, pegman said:

China will not cut off Russia because they know you Yanks would aim for them next. The State Department neocons took advantage of Biden's  weakened sanity to bring Russia and China closer than they have ever been before. 

Conspiracy theory garbage above.

 

If Russia uses a nuke  everything.changes.

 

'Ukraine has damaged at least two of Russia’s rare A-50 AEW&C aircraft in its audacious drone attack on Vladimir Putin’s strategic bomber fleet'.
 

Two More A-50s Down? That’s a Strategic Gut Punch.
 

If reports are accurate and Ukraine took out two A-50 aircraft in this attack, that brings potential losses to four — nearly half of Russia’s pre-war fleet, and I doubt if all of these are still operational.
 

These aren’t just fancy flying radars. They’re the eyes and ears of Russia’s long-range bomber strikes.

 

They:

• Guide cruise missiles
• Detect incoming threats
• Coordinate air defense

Without them?

• Bombers like the Tu-95s and Tu-160s are flying blind and open to attack
• Cruise missiles lose precision
• Russian airspace gets a whole lot dumber
• Degraded Russia’s ability to coordinate large-scale nuclear or conventional air strikes — and weakened its early warning capability

Each A-50 takes years to build and to train crews for.

 

Russia only had about 6–9 at the start of the war.

No spares. No quick replacements.

 

This isn’t just a tactical win — it’s a strategic degradation of Russia’s ability to conduct coordinated aerial warfare in Ukraine and beyond.

 

Ukraine just took out their command tower — and Russia is scrambling in the fog.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2025/06/03/ukraine-strikes-putin-prized-spy-plane/
 

1 hour ago, ChicagoExpat said:

Everything you say is right out of "Russian Shill Handbook" -- I think you guys are up to the 156th edition now?  No one is talking about America directly Russia's latest war as a combatant -- only Russia shills.

"WhY DoN'T YoU EnLiSt If YoU SuPpOrT UkRaINe?"  🤣

And everything you say is fed to you by the western propaganda machine...litterally word for word, and not just regarding ukraine

1 hour ago, jas007 said:

Unfortunately, that can happen only in your fantasy world.  

 

Reality. Ever heard of it? In reality, Russia has won the war on the ground. And they won't be giving back any of the annexed territories that are now part of Russia. At this point, the goal of any sane actor would be to stop the war before it escalates to WWIII. And there's only one way that will happen. Diplomacy.  

 

Unfortunately, the drone attack on the Russia airfields and the more recent attack on the Bridge to Crimea make a diplomatic solution all the more difficult.  

 

What the world needs right now is some sane adults. Where are they? Certainly not in DC. What could they possibly be thinking?  The war in Ukraine is not a video game.  And in the end, no one will be able to press the reset button and play another day.  There will be no reboot. 

Since when has Russia won the war on the ground? Thats breaking news!

 

They once had 30% of Ukraine occupied, now its 18%. The losses of material and soldiers is exorbitant. Economy is going down the drain. They have a shortage of potatoes - even Belarus isn't able to sell them more, because they sold already everything they had.

No potatoes - one of the most important basic food item. 

 

THAT'S the russian reality. And getting worse for them every day they think that they can get through this with threatning and bullying the world with their nukes. After 3 years that's just boring.

16 minutes ago, Schoggibueb said:

Since when has Russia won the war on the ground? Thats breaking news!

 

They once had 30% of Ukraine occupied, now its 18%. The losses of material and soldiers is exorbitant. Economy is going down the drain. They have a shortage of potatoes - even Belarus isn't able to sell them more, because they sold already everything they had.

No potatoes - one of the most important basic food item. 

 

THAT'S the russian reality. And getting worse for them every day they think that they can get through this with threatning and bullying the world with their nukes. After 3 years that's just boring.

If what it's worth, it sounds to me like you've been ingesting too much propaganda.  

 

Russia seems to be doing just fine, if the currency markets are any indication. The Russian Ruble has appreciated around 40% against the US dollar since the beginning of 2025.  Doesn't sound like a crumbling economy to me.  In any event, it's all relative. 

 

I don't know about potatoes. In any event, the Western nations are all but bankrupt at this point, and living on borrowed money. That's another discussion entirely, I guess, but don't think for a second that this nonsense can go on indefinitely.  

 

At this point, economics may not matter. Russian nukes are locked and loaded.  And if they go off, no one will need to worry about potatoes, the war of the ground, or who is "winning."  There will be no winners.  

Ah, so you call analyses from Bank of Finland propaganda?

 

https://www.bofbulletin.fi/en/blogs/2025/war-has-degraded-russia-s-long-term-economic-outlook-and-business-environment/

 

Not to mention the falling world market oil prices. Russia’s long-term structural economic problems are aggravated by war and sanctions. The labour force decline has been accelerated by mobilization, war casualties and migration. Financial resources for productive investment are scarce as domestic investment is directed to war-related sectors. Foreign investment has collapsed.

 

 

Ukraine needs support now – tightened sanctions, more financial resources and increased military support – to defend itself and Europe from Russia’s aggression. That is for the benefit of the whole Europe.

 

And repeating the russian nukes again doesen't make a difference. Nobody is scared anymore.

2 hours ago, ChicagoExpat said:

Ah, Frank.  So good to have you back.  I am indeed aware that many countries assist Ukraine with arms and money, and have never argued otherwise.

I didn't go anywhere.

Theyre overtly giving aid and money, but covertly assisting the Ukrainian forces carrying out attacks. 

1 minute ago, frank83628 said:

I didn't go anywhere.

Theyre overtly giving aid and money, but covertly assisting the Ukrainian forces carrying out attacks. 

I suppose N.Korea, Iran, China isn't doing any of that sort of thing for your side............🤣