Bought new Honda Grom ABS a few weeks ago.  Talk to salesman about many things.  Never thought about asking the model year.

Assumed it was a 2025.  Roughly a week later looked at the sales paper for the year.  Nothing.

 

New a little about VIN's, so did a little looking on the internet and found the position of the year.  It was 2R.  Looked up

the code 2R and it said the 2 was the month, Feb, and the R was 2023.  Feb, 2023 was when the bike was produced at the factory.

 

So I paid the price of a 2025 model for a 2023?  Haven't talked to the dealer yet.  Wanted to be sure had my facts straight first.

 

Would appreciate your thoughts 

 

Thanks.

Sounds like they've pulled a fast one and sold a bike that's been sat in their showroom for about 2 years... 

 

Are there any 'face lift' changes to the bike between 2023 and 2025MY ?? 

 

 

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Years ago when selling a car - a 'Tent dealer' called me out on the age of my car... 

I thought it was a 2005, he told me it was a 2004...  but realistically, thats not abnormal as the chassis number us is just the manufacturing year, not the model year (they are slightly different)... 

 

But a car 'to be sold in 2025' could have a MY (manufacturing year of 2024) - thats as I understand it anyway.

Quite normal in Thailand to sell stock models for campaign prices if there where a new updated mdel, if not, might not be any price difference. Often they separate the year's with just adding an new colour option. Bought both car and big bike on campaign packet prices for earlier years. 

 

Many models is updated on a 3 year cycle.

 

Still you got a new bike straight out of the box right?

C'est la vie.  / French

Mai pen rai  /  Thai

Tough titty  / Texan

 

8 hours ago, Hummin said:

Quite normal in Thailand to sell stock models for campaign prices if there where a new updated mdel, if not, might not be any price difference. Often they separate the year's with just adding an new colour option. Bought both car and big bike on campaign packet prices for earlier years. 

 

Many models is updated on a 3 year cycle.

 

Still you got a new bike straight out of the box right?

On display in the front window of the showroom.  Only one they had unless some in back warehouse.  Loaded on truck and delivered.

59 minutes ago, Boatman37210 said:

On display in the front window of the showroom.  Only one they had unless some in back warehouse.  Loaded on truck and delivered.

Brand and model? Got it

 

Brand shop, or any corner shop selling different brands? 

11 hours ago, Boatman37210 said:

Bought new Honda Grom ABS a few weeks ago.  Talk to salesman about many things.  Never thought about asking the model year.

Assumed it was a 2025.  Roughly a week later looked at the sales paper for the year.  Nothing.

 

New a little about VIN's, so did a little looking on the internet and found the position of the year.  It was 2R.  Looked up

the code 2R and it said the 2 was the month, Feb, and the R was 2023.  Feb, 2023 was when the bike was produced at the factory.

 

So I paid the price of a 2025 model for a 2023?  Haven't talked to the dealer yet.  Wanted to be sure had my facts straight first.

 

Would appreciate your thoughts 

 

Thanks.

look for the VIN number on the frame Boatman its usually near the front forks stamped on the frame this gives you the year of Manufacture. If not sure look below the handle bars down towards the suspension dampeners.

9 hours ago, papa al said:

C'est la vie.  / French

Mai pen rai  /  Thai

Tough titty  / Texan

 

Think Tough kitty came from Rowan and Martin Laugh In

10 hours ago, papa al said:

C'est la vie.  / French

Mai pen rai  /  Thai

Tough titty  / Texan

 

SOL/Canadian/ Sh!t outta luck

Look at manufacturing date on tires, it's usually have year + week number, that gives some clues, although they can change tires but it's unlikely..., from my experience they put a few months older tires on bikes when they are manufactured on a particular date... 

 

Also check the year on green book when it arrives, that's also not exactly manufacturing date, but when selling can be used to say the year of the bike...! 

 

In any case if there was no real useful upgrade, only cosmetics and colour changes for 2025, why worry, just ride and enjoy your new bike... 👍🏻

Quite common. Always ask the year of the bike but the 1st registered date will be in the green book. Assuming you are the 1st owner. When you sell you put the registered as new date.

 

the big bike shops will usually offer a discount if the VIN is an earlier year.

 

Sometimes they can use an early frame when they build the bike in 2025

On 6/13/2025 at 12:25 AM, Boatman37210 said:

VIN's, so did a little looking on the internet and found the position of the year.  It was 2R.  Looked up

the code 2R and it said the 2 was the month, Feb, and the R was 2023.  Feb, 2023

What does the green book say? 

 

If it's a 2025 in the green book all good.

On 6/13/2025 at 12:25 AM, Boatman37210 said:

Bought new Honda Grom ABS a few weeks ago.  Talk to salesman about many things.  Never thought about asking the model year.

Assumed it was a 2025. 

 

According to Honda Sales website there is no 2025 model only 2023 for 69,900. They show a 2024 model on the Parts site which has a horizontal tank protector not the 2023 vertical one. 

 

So if you have a vertical tank protector and paid around 69,900 you have a 2023 model as advertised.

On 6/13/2025 at 12:26 PM, BarraMarra said:

look for the VIN number on the frame Boatman its usually near the front forks stamped on the frame this gives you the year of Manufacture. If not sure look below the handle bars down towards the suspension dampeners.

Sometimes under the seat also.

 

On 6/16/2025 at 2:27 PM, SAFETY FIRST said:

What does the green book say? 

 

If it's a 2025 in the green book all good.

No green book.  Wife called dealer a day or

two ago to check status.  Land office is done.  Waiting for someone to come get. 

 

Ordered a new seat.  They sent pic of 2023 and 2024 bike.  Wanted to know  which one mine looked like.  It was the 2024.  Pictures I see of the 24, 25, and 26 year models look the same.

 

Im ok if it is one of those years.  I guess.  I cant help feeling like I got a 2 year old bike even if it has never been used. I'll get over it.  Better than a poke in the eye with a stick.

 

Oh, I will check paper VIN against bike VIN.

 

Thanks everyone for your input.