On 6/21/2025 at 3:31 PM, KhaoHom said:

We here constantly CO2 gonna destroy the planet. It's the life force all all vegetation.

Don't tell the doom and gloom merchants they hate facts in any form.

If, and I don't believe we are, but if we only have 3 years left then there is nothing that can be done. So, go out enjoy yourself and do whatever you like. You can think about it in 4 or 5 years time if you did the right things.

1 hour ago, Photoguy21 said:

No I look at what the realities are not the fantasy. You can live in your dream world it is your right to do that.

Reality is the Larsen Ice Shelf is melting at unprecedented rates.

 

Reality is Greenland lost 3.8 trillion tons of ice from 1992 -2018.

 

Reality is the rise in sea temperature is the equivalent of 55,000 Tsar Bombas, the most powerful nuclear device ever detonated by man.  Just one releases 209 petajoules of energy.

 

But then, you probably would not recognize a joule if it bit you on the @rse.

 

 

5 hours ago, Photoguy21 said:

Have you seen your doctor lately? I think you need a few psychology sessions

For someone who is given to lecturing others on "putting together sentences with meaning", you should try it yourself/

Your sentence is nonsensical. The fact remains that there is a growing likelihood of irreversible damage to the world's weather  patterns. It may not become immediately apparent, but it will manifest over the next 25 years, and by that time, be too late to remediate.

20 hours ago, Lacessit said:

Reality is the Larsen Ice Shelf is melting at unprecedented rates.

 

Reality is Greenland lost 3.8 trillion tons of ice from 1992 -2018.

 

Reality is the rise in sea temperature is the equivalent of 55,000 Tsar Bombas, the most powerful nuclear device ever detonated by man.  Just one releases 209 petajoules of energy.

 

But then, you probably would not recognize a joule if it bit you on the @rse.

 

 

But coastal areas have not risen in water levels. Doesn't this seem a little strange?

16 hours ago, Patong2021 said:

For someone who is given to lecturing others on "putting together sentences with meaning", you should try it yourself/

Your sentence is nonsensical. The fact remains that there is a growing likelihood of irreversible damage to the world's weather  patterns. It may not become immediately apparent, but it will manifest over the next 25 years, and by that time, be too late to remediate.

When you grow up I am sure you will be fine. Until then keep taking the tablets.

For some inane reason silly ignorant and stupid people feel the need to 'follow' things that are patentably not true or cannot be disproven. Whether it be some form of religion or astrology or climate change or woke liberalism or no borders or free gaza or gay rights or the latest shampoo that is made from orangutan's urine, they want to believe in something and they need to be seen supporting something and protesting against something.  It is like they need to feel they are doing something as a form of narcissistic virtue signaling - but personally I dont understand why some people are like this. But I do know that they started getting louder and more demanding ever since the Vietnam War and Berlin and USSR protests succeeded. Nowadays they all want and demand that the world change to suit their own idiotic beliefs. They are IMO exactly like those religious fanatics that kill people who did not agree with their religious beliefs. Whether that be Christians in the past or Muslims now - they are all demanding their views be accepted by others - and they are happy to use force and that includes use of legal means, to force their opinions and views on others.  Some things are a fad and last a while and then peter out - but some of them become a cult and they last a long time and theose who 'believe' will do anything to keep that cult alive. 

 

There is one fact that shows which ones are real (Vietnam War etc) and which ones are not and that what they want is wrong.  Proof.  They cannot provide any proof. They have feelings and opinions - and their delusional minds justify that to themselves that these are facts - it is called cognitive bias.   There has been claims of climate disasters going back to the 70s and the fact that they have not happened is proof that it is a cult - and I for one do not believe in cults. 

1 hour ago, Photoguy21 said:

But coastal areas have not risen in water levels. Doesn't this seem a little strange?

 

Just now, Lacessit said:

 

Sea go up and down and always have. 

3 hours ago, Photoguy21 said:

Sea go up and down and always have. 

Yes, there are two high and low tides every 24 hours.

 

Which has nothing to do with the data I posted.

4 hours ago, Photoguy21 said:

When you grow up I am sure you will be fine. Until then keep taking the tablets.

I wish there was a pill to make people smarter, I'd even give you mine.

 

Where did you get your engineering degree, out of a cereal box?

10 minutes ago, Lacessit said:

I wish there was a pill to make people smarter, I'd even give you mine.

Why waste it?

On 6/24/2025 at 2:33 PM, Photoguy21 said:

So, go out enjoy yourself and do whatever you like

100% agreed  just look at what all the " world leaders"  are doing

if anything its world war III which of course will save the climate 55555

25 minutes ago, Lacessit said:

Yes, there are two high and low tides every 24 hours.

Not true for all the world;

While some places have one high tide and one low tide per day, most coastal locations have two high tides and two low tides a day. These highs and lows typically aren't equal. This is why, in most places, using the phrase "high tide" might be unclear. There's actually high tide and higher high tide (and low and lower low tide).

How many high tides are there per day?

 

The earth is cooling, entering one of it's coldest phases.  Sorry hoaxers and haters...global warming is just another wet dream for y'all. Try science instead of woke brainwashed obsession.

 

lol....

 

 

https://archive.ph/VYKQ2

 

 

2 hours ago, illisdean said:

The earth is cooling, entering one of it's coldest phases.  Sorry hoaxers and haters...global warming is just another wet dream for y'all. Try science instead of woke brainwashed obsession.

 

lol....

 

 

https://archive.ph/VYKQ2

 

 

 

You really do not understand what global warming means.

The warming disrupts currents and weather patterns including the jet stream. The result is that some places will experience  extreme cold, while others will experience extreme heat. Weather events are more extreme. High intensity typhoons and hurricanes become the norm, heavy rain and snow storms become more likely, tidal surges more intense because sea levels rise and so on.

 

 

14 minutes ago, Patong2021 said:

tidal surges more intense because sea levels rise and so on.

Where has the sea level risen, and by how much?

2 hours ago, BritManToo said:

Where has the sea level risen, and by how much?

Readily available information. As per NOAA; Between 1993 and 2023 mean sea level has risen across most of the world ocean (blue colors). In some ocean basins, sea level has risen 6-8 inches (15-20 centimeters). Rates of local sea level (dots) on the coast can be larger than the global average due to geological processes like ground settling or smaller than the global average due to processes like the centuries-long rebound of land masses from the loss of ice-age glaciers. Map by NOAA Climate.gov based on data provided by Philip Thompson, University of Hawaii.

 

https://www.climate.gov/sites/default/files/styles/full_width_620_original_image/public/2024-08/ClimateDashboard-global-sea-levels-map-20240821-1400px.png?itok=DNV9cG49

 

 

https://www.climate.gov/news-features/understanding-climate/climate-change-global-sea-level

 

 

 

 

12 minutes ago, Patong2021 said:

Readily available information. As per NOAA; Between 1993 and 2023 mean sea level has risen across most of the world ocean (blue colors). In some ocean basins, sea level has risen 6-8 inches (15-20 centimeters). Rates of local sea level (dots) on the coast can be larger than the global average due to geological processes like ground settling or smaller than the global average due to processes like the centuries-long rebound of land masses from the loss of ice-age glaciers. Map by NOAA Climate.gov based on data provided by Philip Thompson, University of Hawaii.

 

https://www.climate.gov/sites/default/files/styles/full_width_620_original_image/public/2024-08/ClimateDashboard-global-sea-levels-map-20240821-1400px.png?itok=DNV9cG49

 

 

https://www.climate.gov/news-features/understanding-climate/climate-change-global-sea-level

Did you read the 2nd link, as it differs from the first link, by 113 years.

 

... "Global mean sea level has risen about 8–9 inches (21–24 centimeters) since 1880" ...

7 hours ago, KhunLA said:

Did you read the 2nd link, as it differs from the first link, by 113 years.

 

... "Global mean sea level has risen about 8–9 inches (21–24 centimeters) since 1880" ...

Taking a different timeline does not change the fact of sea level rise. I might as well say the sea level rise started in 1000 AD.

 

China did not complete electrification of the nation until 2015. Its GDP was stagnant until 1978, when Deng Xiaoping introduced reforms.

20 hours ago, Lacessit said:

I wish there was a pill to make people smarter, I'd even give you mine.

 

Where did you get your engineering degree, out of a cereal box?

I know you are smart. You have the intellect of a dead mouse. Keep up the good work.

Sad to see that 90% of posters either do not believe in man made climate change or just do not care. Yes, it is a really complex issue and it takes a certain level of intelligence to even begin to understand the big picture. Also a lot of science. Not just Physics and Maths, also Biology, Geology, Chemistry; also Geography and History have a part to play.

 

But lets just stick to what we do know.

1. For the past 5 decades, the average global temperature of the decade has increased.  If it continues at the same rate, we will reach 3 degrees Centigrade of warming by the end of the century.

2. Ice is melting. Many glaciers, which provide year round water for many rivers will not exist by 2100.

3, Average sea level has been rising for over a 100 years; the rate has been increasing and in this century is currently at about 3 mm per year.

4. Sea temperatures are now at record levels since recording began. Corals do not like it too hot. warmer water  means more evaporation,  more energy, bigger storms.

5. Forest fires have increased in intensity, size and frequency in this century - More CO2 is emitted. human activity also releases CO2

 

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The world's natural carbon cycle, involving processes like photosynthesis in plants and absorption by the oceans, absorbs roughly 100 billion metric tons of CO2 annually. This is balanced by natural emissions from sources like volcanic activity and decomposition. However, human activities, primarily the burning of fossil fuels, release an additional 9.1 billion tonnes of CO2 into the atmosphere each year, exceeding the natural absorption capacity. While natural sinks like oceans and forests absorb some of this excess (2.8 billion and 2.2 billion tonnes, respectively), a significant portion (4.1 billion tonnes) remains in the atmosphere, contributing to the increase in CO2 concentration. 

 

So yes, it is happening. It is a slow process,, but what CO2 (and other gases) we do release does impact many things, and rarely for the better. More droughts, more heat waves, more floods more storms and impacts on the environment.

 

12 minutes ago, rickudon said:

Sad to see that 90% of posters either do not believe in man made climate change or just do not care.

 

The reason most don't believe it is the climate has changed many times on this planet before man existed and will continue to do so.  Climate change is real and happening (very, very, very slowly just as it always has done) and pretending that we are responsible for it is a King Canute level of hubris.  The only thing "man made" is the desire to profit and have the gullible pay the powerful who make money from the fear mongering.   The rich and the powerful are grateful for your contribution to their cause of making more and more money.   

1 minute ago, James105 said:

 

The reason most don't believe it is the climate has changed many times on this planet before man existed and will continue to do so.  Climate change is real and happening (very, very, very slowly just as it always has done) and pretending that we are responsible for it is a King Canute level of hubris.  The only thing "man made" is the desire to profit and have the gullible pay the powerful who make money from the fear mongering.   The rich and the powerful are grateful for your contribution to their cause of making more and more money.   

Yes, natural climate change does happen very, very slowly. What we see now is a speeded up version where things happen in 100 years instead of thousands.

4 hours ago, rickudon said:

Yes, natural climate change does happen very, very slowly. What we see now is a speeded up version where things happen in 100 years instead of thousands.

 

100 years you say?  We only just escaped an ice age a mere 50 years ago so yes it does seem that climate scam changes super fast.  It's warming now you say?   It's a scam.   Follow the money.   

 

News always sensationalise everything to get attention. You have to get at the underlying facts.

 

You do know why they thought this in the 1960's? Air pollution put dust into the atmosphere which reflected light back out into space, just they couldn't measure that back then. The massive increase in fossil fuel use meant more air pollution, so that temperatures started to go down, this off set the very slight warming trend from CO2 we had at that time; and of course we were heading back into another ice age (in a couple of thousand years); It is now thought that the current warming will set that figure back another thousand or two.

 

Thats the thing, climate change is a mesh of competing factors, some positive, some negative. 60 years ago we just didn't have enough data. We still need more, but if we just wait some tipping points could be reached and like a broken glass cannot be easily undone.

12 hours ago, rickudon said:

Thats the thing, climate change is a mesh of competing factors, some positive, some negative. 60 years ago we just didn't have enough data

 

Climate changes over millions of years.  To rely on (probably) manipulated data over the last few decades and then use that to model what is going to happen in 100 years (despite admitting the data wasn't good enough 60 years ago), to draw conclusions on such a small data set is quite the leap of faith in the climate alarmist community.  There was a record breaking heat wave in the 70s.  There will probably be less warm summers in the next decade.   It's called weather.  Something humans have notoriously never been able to accurately predict even in the next day or 2 let alone 100 years which is why all these climate predictions have been wildly wrong and will continue to be so.

 

You would have been panicking (if you were around) about the upcoming ice age in the 70s.   Now you are panicking about global warming.   Some people are just very weak to propaganda.  Which is great for the rich and the powerful as they rely on you (and people like you) to keep spreading this propaganda to keep them rich.  

 

12 hours ago, rickudon said:

You have to get at the underlying facts.

 

Yes, follow the money.  

4 hours ago, James105 said:

 

Climate changes over millions of years.  To rely on (probably) manipulated data over the last few decades and then use that to model what is going to happen in 100 years (despite admitting the data wasn't good enough 60 years ago), to draw conclusions on such a small data set is quite the leap of faith in the climate alarmist community.  There was a record breaking heat wave in the 70s.  There will probably be less warm summers in the next decade.   It's called weather.  Something humans have notoriously never been able to accurately predict even in the next day or 2 let alone 100 years which is why all these climate predictions have been wildly wrong and will continue to be so.

 

You would have been panicking (if you were around) about the upcoming ice age in the 70s.   Now you are panicking about global warming.   Some people are just very weak to propaganda.  Which is great for the rich and the powerful as they rely on you (and people like you) to keep spreading this propaganda to keep them rich.  

 

 

Yes, follow the money.  

Yes, look at big oil. Just like the tobacco companies before them. 

 

I am not panicking. There is very little risk of humanity being wiped out by climate change. There is a big risk that a lot of people will live in a degraded environment and migration will become such a problem that today's migration issues will seem trivial. There is a chance we will see resource wars - water, maybe food, maybe just better territory.

 

When the Indian sub-continent runs out of all those things, do you think people will just sit down and die? The second half of this century will be a bad time; the 22nd century, no idea, could get better or worse. I just want my kids to be on the winning side.

10 minutes ago, rickudon said:

Yes, look at big oil. Just like the tobacco companies before them. 

 

I am not panicking. There is very little risk of humanity being wiped out by climate change. There is a big risk that a lot of people will live in a degraded environment and migration will become such a problem that today's migration issues will seem trivial. There is a chance we will see resource wars - water, maybe food, maybe just better territory.

 

When the Indian sub-continent runs out of all those things, do you think people will just sit down and die? The second half of this century will be a bad time; the 22nd century, no idea, could get better or worse. I just want my kids to be on the winning side.

 

So you think that by paying extra tax to subsidize the green billionaires and being forced to restrict your own lifestyle in some way would change any of that?   

 

Climate panickers have no imagination.  They seem to think that the technology we have today is all we will ever have to solve problems.   100 years ago they would think the giant telephone in peoples houses had peaked and could not imagine ever making a phone call untethered from a house or a phone box, let alone having a computer in their pockets that has more processing power than NASA used for the moon landings.  Everyone wants cleaner skies and when the technology evolves to make that happen people will choose to buy it.  It will happen naturally.   I object to subsidizing inefficient provision of energy so politicians, China and rich people can get richer.