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Trump Confirms Surprise US Airstrikes on Iran’s Nuclear Sites, Including Fordo

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11 minutes ago, theblether said:

Always entertaining to see people fall for clear trolls. You'd need to be touched in the head to believe CNN had an exclusive insight. 

 

Just fantastic to behold. 

I would trust CNN over propaganda site "Truth" Social any day of the week.

But agreed that people need to curate their information sources carefully and critically.

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3 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

I would trust CNN over propaganda site "Truth" Social any day of the week.

But agreed that people need to curate their information sources carefully and critically.

Truth Social is not pretending to be unbiased news, and the people posting are not pretending to be "journalists". 

1 hour ago, Eric Loh said:

You probably right about Alpha particles because they are relatively large and charged, causing them to interact strongly with matter and lose energy fast. Gamma radiation penetrates rock far better than alpha. Beta is between alpha and gamma in terms of rock penetration. 

 

You again ignore how much. Would 400kg of 60% U235 under 80+ meters of limestone be detectable outside, notwithstanding it's not a health hazard inside. My 30 meters or less than half way was based on calculation.  

 

But moving on, I would love to understand your concern about the well being of Iran's bomb plans.  Is it that you would like to see the worst ever sponsor of state terrorism get one soon? Or the opposite, you are concerned that they do and hope  they are stopped?. An interesting question for a poll. 

8 hours ago, Chomper Higgot said:

“Iran lovers and Jew haters”

 

We’ve arrived at the baseless ad hominem accusations already.

 

Perhaps we should be discussing the military attack not making personal attacks on those who have a different view of the reported events 

It's not a personal attack, nor is it basless, if you support Iran you're a Jew hater and an American hater simple as that. You should have the courage of your convictions

16 hours ago, Bkk Brian said:

Did you even read the link posted earlier, what makes you think this particular facility was 300ft underground?

I stand corrected.  However, aerial photos normally just show surface damage.  

I found this extremely interesting, 15 years in the planning with many actual simulations with mock ups of Fordor and a refinement right at the very end to allow for a new concrete capping that Iran had placed. Everything went according to plan and the pilots reported seeing flashes so bright they lit up the sky.

 

Pentagon Reveals Bunker-Busting Bomb Used on Iran's Nuclear Facility

 

The mission objective was simple and as stated to the UN Security Council "effectively fulfilled our narrow objective: to degrade Iran's capacity to produce a nuclear weapon,"

 

Latest damage assessments from Rafael Grossi, the head of the United Nations’ nuclear watchdog are excellent news. 

 

"the nuclear program has definitely suffered “enormous damage.”

 

Centrifuges at Fordo ‘No Longer Operational,’ U.N. Nuclear Watchdog Head Says
The director general of the International Atomic Energy Agency said that there was “no escaping significant physical damage” after a U.S. strike on the Iranian facility.

He declined to say how far Iran’s nuclear program had been set back.
“Perhaps decades, depending on the type of activity or objective,” Mr. Grossi said, echoing comments made by President Trump this week at a NATO summit in the Netherlands.
“It’s true that with these reduced capacities,” he added, “it will be much more difficult for Iran to continue at the same pace as before.”

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/06/26/world/middleeast/centrifuges-fordo-damage-iran.html

https://archive.ph/JYldV

 

From the NYTimes above article:

 

He said, however, that it would be “too much” to assert that Iran’s nuclear program had been “wiped out” after the Israeli and American bombing campaign. Mr. Grossi noted that not all of Iran’s nuclear sites had been struck, and said Iranian officials had told him that they would take “protective measures” for the uranium they had already enriched.

 

Still, he said, the nuclear program has definitely suffered “enormous damage.”

7 minutes ago, jerrymahoney said:

From the NYTimes above article:

 

He said, however, that it would be “too much” to assert that Iran’s nuclear program had been “wiped out” after the Israeli and American bombing campaign. Mr. Grossi noted that not all of Iran’s nuclear sites had been struck, and said Iranian officials had told him that they would take “protective measures” for the uranium they had already enriched.

 

Still, he said, the nuclear program has definitely suffered “enormous damage.”

Wiping out certainly happened to some facilities I don't know anyone that was claiming the whole nuclear program was all wiped out.  and why are you repeating what I had already posted?

 

24 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said:

 

 

"the nuclear program has definitely suffered “enormous damage.”

 

 

 

 

10 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said:

and why are you repeating what I had already posted?

Because some are not going to read the whole article.

4 minutes ago, jerrymahoney said:

Because some are not going to read the whole article.

? that's up to them if they are interested or not..........lol

 

but repeating the exact same quotes that I posted is just ridiculous

I posted 3 contiguous sentences and the 3rd one really doesn't make sense without the first 2.

45 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said:

The mission objective was simple and as stated to the UN Security Council "effectively fulfilled our narrow objective: to degrade Iran's capacity to produce a nuclear weapon,"

 

Latest damage assessments from Rafael Grossi, the head of the United Nations’ nuclear watchdog are excellent news. 

 

"the nuclear program has definitely suffered “enormous damage.”

 

Centrifuges at Fordo ‘No Longer Operational,’ U.N. Nuclear Watchdog Head Says
The director general of the International Atomic Energy Agency said that there was “no escaping significant physical damage” after a U.S. strike on the Iranian facility.

He declined to say how far Iran’s nuclear program had been set back.
“Perhaps decades, depending on the type of activity or objective,” Mr. Grossi said, echoing comments made by President Trump this week at a NATO summit in the Netherlands.
“It’s true that with these reduced capacities,” he added, “it will be much more difficult for Iran to continue at the same pace as before.”

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/06/26/world/middleeast/centrifuges-fordo-damage-iran.html

https://archive.ph/JYldV

 

The NYT leaves out a lot and one of the important points it left out was that the IAEA team were actually at Fordo with the Iranians the day before it got hit by the US.

44 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said:

I found this extremely interesting, 15 years in the planning with many actual simulations with mock ups of Fordor and a refinement right at the very end to allow for a new concrete capping that Iran had placed. Everything went according to plan and the pilots reported seeing flashes so bright they lit up the sky.

 

Pentagon Reveals Bunker-Busting Bomb Used on Iran's Nuclear Facility

 

 

Amazing! So the trucks were bringing in hard concrete to cover the shafts.

 

Here is the full MOP presentation staring at 6.00m with more project background. In the design stage it employed so many PhDs that the MOP project was the largest consumer of super computing resources in the US.  

 

 

 

22 minutes ago, rabas said:

 

Amazing! So the trucks were bringing in hard concrete to cover the shafts.

 

Here is the full MOP presentation staring at 6.00m with more project background. In the design stage it employed so many PhDs that the MOP project was the largest consumer of super computing resources in the US.  

 

 

 

Yes exactly those trucks were there trying to cover up the shafts to reinforce them and as I mentioned in the post above, the IAEA team were actually at Fordo with the Iranians the day before it got hit by the US which means they were there when the trucks were. So very doubtful the Uranium was moved.

6 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said:

Yes exactly those trucks were there trying to cover up the shafts to reinforce them

 

I had wondered what the white stuff in the trucks was. Concrete for the shaft caps!.

 

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Meanwhile, the utter stupidity of Trump's remarks reminds the world of his idiocy.

 

Japan condemned US President Donald Trump for comparing recent US strikes on Iran to the bombing of Hiroshima and Nagasaki that ended World War II.

 

"That hit ended the war," Trump told reporters on Wednesday. "I don't want to use an example of Hiroshima, I don't want to use an example of Nagasaki, but that was essentially the same thing."

 

About 140,000 people died when the US dropped atomic bombs on the two southern Japanese cities in August 1945. Survivors live with psychological trauma and heightened cancer risk to this day.

 

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/ckg5xrgr72yo

6 hours ago, bannork said:

Meanwhile, the utter stupidity of Trump's remarks reminds the world of his idiocy.

 

Japan condemned US President Donald Trump for comparing recent US strikes on Iran to the bombing of Hiroshima and Nagasaki that ended World War II.

 

"That hit ended the war," Trump told reporters on Wednesday. "I don't want to use an example of Hiroshima, I don't want to use an example of Nagasaki, but that was essentially the same thing."

 

About 140,000 people died when the US dropped atomic bombs on the two southern Japanese cities in August 1945. Survivors live with psychological trauma and heightened cancer risk to this day.

 

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/ckg5xrgr72yo

And hundreds of thousands of lives were saved. 

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