3 minutes ago, TonyFromItaly said:

If you read the Cambodian media, they tell a story that's the opposite of what you read in the Thai media.
The truth isn't just on one side.

You have to see both sides of the story...

 

Tony

Out of interest what does the Cambodian media say. "You have to see both sides of the story..." Yes Peal Harbour, Poland, the Netherlands, Belgium, Denmark, Norway.

2 minutes ago, TonyFromItaly said:

If you read the Cambodian media, they tell a story that's the opposite of what you read in the Thai media.
The truth isn't just on one side.

You have to see both sides of the story...

 

Tony

The "truth" is subjective like with many other topics... just simply what you think to be okay/right or wrong etc. but it doesn't make you right or wrong either way, need evidence which is usually hard to find.

It's the same with things like music or beauty.... there is no such thing as good or bad music, it's just music. It just depends on what you think is good music or not... same goes for beauty and fashion and a whole load of other stuff. Just what you think is good or bad/right or wrong.

2 hours ago, renaissanc said:

The Thai air force has good pilots!

Not as good as as the RAF. Beat that https://www.aircrew-saltire.org/lib135.html

UPDATE
Martial Law Declared in Parts of Chanthaburi and Trat as Border Tensions Escalate

 

 

2 hours ago, RickyJB said:

Exactly 👍 this criminal family need banned from politics.. kiss aarsing the WEF / WHO  as well. Jail them all 

Do not agree. That’s just an excuse . Normal people don’t begin a war over a small temple. That’s an excuse too. Cambodia is ruled by tyrans , you only have to travel outside Phnom Penh and Siem Reap to see how the people live. Someone tell me who is giving orders to the Thai Army, it’s not the Thaksins .   Easy to see who’s ruling with an iron hand in Cambodia , it’s Hun Sen ex Khmer Rouge and his idiot shadow of a son. Hun Sen with his bloated ego started this. Thailand cannot stand back . 

Yesterday I asked the the Mrs how far from Hua Hin' to the nearest Cambodian' border.. she said Oh! its very very far good job we moved from Chiang Mai that is very close.  

 

Turns out its 110 km 69 miles by sea drone or cruise missile so hoping the F16 pilots had a different geography teacher to us.🤔

 

Having just pointed this fact out to her she said don't worry there are far to many Farang's here to get bombed there would be international outcry ... conversation over 🤔 

13 hours ago, ravip said:

I sincerely hope this fight will not escalate any more.

Border dispute won't really escalate into all out conflict/war. Unless someone on either side wants it to. A certain Thai politician being one of them. A lot of profit in war if you know the right people..

3 minutes ago, sammieuk1 said:

Yesterday I asked the the Mrs how far from Hua Hin' to the nearest Cambodian' border.. she said Oh! its very very far good job we moved from Chiang Mai that is very close.  

 

Turns out its 110 km 69 miles by sea drone or cruise missile so hoping the F16 pilots had a different geography teacher to us.🤔

 

Having just pointed this fact out to her she said don't worry there are far to many Farang's here to get bombed there would be international outcry ... conversation over 🤔 

 

2 minutes ago, Ginner said:

Border dispute won't really escalate into all out conflict/war. Unless someone on either side wants it to. A certain Thai politician being one of them. A lot of profit in war if you know the right people..

hmmmm let't think. Which current dispute filling the news is going on to divert attention from an unpopular leader?

3 hours ago, kwilco said:

this is all down to the military trying to take over the government again and justifying a coup....or disguising a coup.

I'm 90% sure of that too. This was pre-planned, a manufactured crisis to enable an eventual coup. The demand by the People's Party (formerly Move Forward) to disolve parliament and call an election is, in my view, the only way to head off the ultra-conservatives' plan for a coup and more right-wing dictatorship in Thailand. But there are rumblings that Thaksin may be trying to do yet another deal with the conservatives to avoid an election (which PT Party would clearly lose, but so would the conservatives).

8 hours ago, Will B Good said:

 Cambodian President Hun Sen did travel to China last week.

 

Reports indicate that he boarded a private jet from Phnom Penh en route to China following a military escalation involving Cambodia and Thailand. 

 

???????

It was on Thai TV most of the day that we went to China, what was he doing, after some big things that bang, a bit more modern than the Soviet era thing they have.

China will say, OK we will be opening a few more factories in your country?

4 minutes ago, kickstart said:

It was on Thai TV most of the day that we went to China, what was he doing, after some big things that bang, a bit more modern than the Soviet era thing they have.

China will say, OK we will be opening a few more factories in your country?

Sure it wasn't opening a few more scam centres?

1 hour ago, Geoff914 said:

Out of interest what does the Cambodian media say. "You have to see both sides of the story..." Yes Peal Harbour, Poland, the Netherlands, Belgium, Denmark, Norway.

 

The Khmer Times has a propaganda piece about the Thai "invasion" of Cambodia and Cambodian civilians "under attack". "The blood of our people has been spilled—not on a battlefield, but in their homes, schools, and clinics. And the world must remember: peace dies when bombs fall on children". But no reports of any Cambodian civilians being killed, as far as I can see.

https://www.khmertimeskh.com/501724977/bombs-over-peace-thailands-war-crimes-against-cambodias-civilians/

 

Meantime, Cambodians are shelling Thai shops and villages - even a hospital - resulting in many Thai civilian deaths and injuries.

 

Thailand, as far as I can tell, is specifically targeting military installations/assets.

 

It would be interesting to hear from members living in Cambodia whether there are reports of Cambodian civilian deaths/injuries.

This incident is not going to please TAT, I think they will have to review there tourism figures and expected income.

Well said Police Spokesperson.

9 minutes ago, bannork said:

Well said Police Spokesperson.

 

Thais are such gentle, lovely people...

20 minutes ago, chickenslegs said:

 

The Khmer Times has a propaganda piece about the Thai "invasion" of Cambodia and Cambodian civilians "under attack". "The blood of our people has been spilled—not on a battlefield, but in their homes, schools, and clinics. And the world must remember: peace dies when bombs fall on children". But no reports of any Cambodian civilians being killed, as far as I can see.

https://www.khmertimeskh.com/501724977/bombs-over-peace-thailands-war-crimes-against-cambodias-civilians/

 

Meantime, Cambodians are shelling Thai shops and villages - even a hospital - resulting in many Thai civilian deaths and injuries.

 

Thailand, as far as I can tell, is specifically targeting military installations/assets.

 

It would be interesting to hear from members living in Cambodia whether there are reports of Cambodian civilian deaths/injuries.

 News reports I read in the UK suggest Cambodia is going to lose the propaganda war on this one with the World likely to be on Thailand's side. I have to admit given the history on this my sympathies lie with Thailand and I understand their genuine grievance. Even putting to one side the shooting appears to have started by Cambodia.

1 hour ago, TDCNINJA said:

 

Thais are such gentle, lovely people...

Nothing compared to the Khmer Rouge.

Goodbye Tourism - Hello Mexico!

6 hours ago, RickyJB said:

Exactly 👍 this criminal family need banned from politics.. kiss aarsing the WEF / WHO  as well. Jail them all 

The only kiss aarsing is the Thais cleaning Chinese bottoms.

See the locals are dishing out a beating to a Cambodian only 6 onto 2 this time but with Bamboo sticks. Don't arrest them send em to patayya as security guards.

Ung-Ing get out 🤣 

Who suffers.....the conscript ranger who steps on a land mine.  The border cabbage trader.  The working poor.  The kids who just missed 3 days of school.   The big guys don't suffer.

End this nonesense.  Check the ego at the door.

5 hours ago, ronnie50 said:

I'm 90% sure of that too. This was pre-planned, a manufactured crisis to enable an eventual coup. The demand by the People's Party (formerly Move Forward) to disolve parliament and call an election is, in my view, the only way to head off the ultra-conservatives' plan for a coup and more right-wing dictatorship in Thailand. But there are rumblings that Thaksin may be trying to do yet another deal with the conservatives to avoid an election (which PT Party would clearly lose, but so would the conservatives).

 

I said this two days ago.

 

Got a few thumbs down! 555

11 hours ago, JAG said:

Probably, although I retired before drones came in.

 

Good old fashioned observation techniques could probably locate a BM21 launcher within a couple of minutes of it being fired - two or better three OPs getting bearings on the flash or smoke from it being fired would produce a target location If they are ready they should be able to get fire on them in a matter of minutes - catch them as they were coming out of action. That of course depends on good well practised artillery techniques!

 

The launchers are pretty well limited to surfaced roads, especially in the rainy season. Again, a good OP plan, effective air surveillance (drone and manned aircraft) and even covert deep recce patrols will go a long way towards making their operations and movement difficult, they take a bit of time to get accurate survey, both for orientation and fix to ensure any accuracy especially if the GPS coverage is turned off or jammed - so use that time to find them. Of course it all depends on if the Thais have the stomach and capability for that.

That or just fly in an F16? Simpler?

8 hours ago, Will B Good said:

 

I'm guessing that other 5% are monks.

There are more than a few Muslims down south.

19 hours ago, Mitkof Island said:

There is one person responsible for this mess. If he was in prison where he should be none of this would have ever happened besides numerous other things.

I’m waiting for someone to blame Trump.

 

 

3 hours ago, connda said:

Goodbye Tourism - Hello Mexico!

You think Mexico is safe?  LMAO

How will this affect the farang dudes that have to do their monthly border runs.

 

 

would not suprise me if the Big Boss in Beijing is egging Hun Sen on so he can send in The  Peoples Army to annexe  Thailand Laos and then Burma  ,,, he already controls Cambodia ...

9 hours ago, Geoff914 said:

From the BBC  https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/ckg5gz03d8no

 

"Cambodia, for its part, accused Thailand of using cluster munitions. Cluster munitions are banned in much of the world because of their indiscriminate effect on civilian populations." Says the country using Land mines.

 

I would suggest everyone on both sides chill and look at why this issue happened to be stirred up now.

I look at the BBC as an outlet for the opinion of the UK deep state. And they are encouraging escalation with these accusations of Thailand using cluster munitions.

 

I know a lot of UK Expats love Thailand, but there is a case to be made that the UK is behind stirring up a lot of crap internationally.  Ukraine/Russia, Israel/Iran, India/Pakistan, and here? 

 

Questions need to be asked.  Why now?  Cui bono?