Went local office they wont provide or commit to writing a list

 

Told 5700 for multi entry 

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2 banks letters one a 'guarantee ' other letter showing more than 800k same day whch is a real pain.

 

Is there anything else ?

 

Did you ask for a list of requirements for a retirement extension? That's what you need.  The fact that you are changing is not relevant, because it's just an application for an extension based on a different reason.

 

When switching from marriage to retirement, your wife will also need to be present for this extension, but will not need to be present for future applications. 

 

Most immigration offices require many other forms they will provide to be signed, and some require things like your lease, and other various items.

 

Don't tell them you are changing when you go to ask, as you will just confuse matters.  You want the requirements for a retirement extension. That's it.

3 hours ago, RubbaJohnny said:

2 banks letters one a 'guarantee ' other letter showing more than 800k same day whch is a real pain.

OP, you have good advice in post above. 

Not sure what you mean  "guarantee" 

You need a bank letter which is simple letter from bank that you are owner of the account and balance on day of issue. 

You also need band statement showing 800k seasoned in the bank for two months prior to application. 

Assume you are aware of the financial requirements after application. 

Your wife needs to attend for this first extension based on retirement. 

There is no multi entry extension. 

The 12 month extension is 1900b.

In addition you can buy a multi reentry permit 3800b 

There is list of things you require such a TM7 with photo etc. 

 

Read this thread: 

https://aseannow.com/topic/1361170-changing-from-marriage-extension-visa-to-retirement-extension-visa/

 

Thanks Jack  it was the immigartion who used the word guarantee.

Helpful to know wife needed as she is away at present.

9 minutes ago, RubbaJohnny said:

Helpful to know wife needed as she is away at present.

Yeah. It's just for the initial change. 

Ongoing she won't need to attend. 

Minor point but be aware when you change the 12 months extension starts on date of application. 

As a result some Leave the application to later (closer to current expiry) than when then would normally apply. 

As I stated.. Minor point. 

Picture of you and wife and house owner or village elder and witness inside and around the house. Evidence of property ownership.

Marriage certficte not over one month old from your local District.

House visit while on a one month condiseration. switiching extension 

15 minutes ago, arick said:

Picture of you and wife and house owner or village elder and witness inside and around the house. Evidence of property ownership.

Marriage certficte not over one month old from your local District.

House visit while on a one month condiseration. switiching extension 

wrong

3 minutes ago, klauskunkel said:

wrong

 

 

Just wrong?

 

 

No follow up with a helpful correction?

1 minute ago, hotandsticky said:

 

 

Just wrong?

 

 

No follow up with a helpful correction?

the correct requirements are all above my post and don.t need to be repeated

Just now, klauskunkel said:

the correct requirements are all above my post and don.t need to be repeated

 

They did if, like me, you start with the last post first.

 

Sorry to dent your ego but I don't religiously follow your posts................especially the one-word ones.

 

 

All you had to do was post "wrong, see above"

24 minutes ago, arick said:

Picture of you and wife and house owner or village elder and witness inside and around the house. Evidence of property ownership.

Marriage certficte not over one month old from your local District.

House visit while on a one month condiseration. switiching extension 

You have outlined some requirements for extension based on marriage. 

The OP is applying for extension based on retirement. 

The requirements have been outlined in the thread. 

5 minutes ago, hotandsticky said:

 

They did if, like me, you start with the last post first.

 

Sorry to dent your ego but I don't religiously follow your posts................especially the one-word ones.

 

 

All you had to do was post "wrong, see above"

Actually when you read the Thread Title, it says: "requirements swap marriage extension to retirement"

and Arick responded with requirements for marriage extension..., which are the wrong requirements.

Hence my post: "wrong"

10 minutes ago, klauskunkel said:

Actually when you read the Thread Title, it says: "requirements swap marriage extension to retirement"

and Arick responded with requirements for marriage extension..., which are the wrong requirements.

Hence my post: "wrong"

 

 

I think you have missed my point.......

 

 

Whilst "wrong" may be an accurate statement of fact, it is arguably a pointless statement without reference to earlier comments giving "correct" information. 

Dr. Jack,

maybe it's time to remove the mutual bloating of this thread

Further chit chat will be removed. 

 

2 hours ago, arick said:

Picture of you and wife and house owner or village elder and witness inside and around the house. Evidence of property ownership.

Marriage certficte not over one month old from your local District.

House visit while on a one month condiseration. switiching extension 

Chiang Mai immigration like to have photos of yourself and your wife on the toilet, they like to look in your wardrobe and poke into your personal situation as much as they can. Make sure to take at least one spare copy of every document, as when the paperwork "shuffling" begins, and especially if they are interrupted, (as they cannot multi task, in fact they find performing straight forward singular tasks extremely difficult) as by now you should have at least two of your original photocopies missing - it happens every year, the sleight of hand and whoosh your perfect paperwork is no more!

 

A couple of young ladies at CM would put David Nixon to shame in a card trick.

 

Just an observation, but when you fill in the forms at immigration, just remember, spell checker is your friend, not your enemy!

Hypothetical question regarding this change of reason for extension. (I'm not talking about myself)

What if there is a marriage breakup and said applicant jumps on his bike and heads for a Province remote to escape the fury left behind. Does the lady have to be in attendence for such a change of status to be approved, or is it only if the marriage is ongoing?

 

It should be mentioned that if he entered on an OA visa, approved  health insurance must be obtained for retirement.

30 minutes ago, Old Croc said:

What if there is a marriage breakup and said applicant jumps on his bike and heads for a Province remote to escape the fury left behind. Does the lady have to be in attendence for such a change of status to be approved, or is it only if the marriage is ongoing?

An extension based on marriage is null and void the moment the divorce is final.  The person would either need to leave Thailand that day, or go to immigration and apply for a new extension based on a new reason immediately (along with divorce documents).

1 hour ago, Old Croc said:

What if there is a marriage breakup and said applicant jumps on his bike and heads for a Province remote to escape the fury left behind.

The extension is void from date of divorce. 

That information is not forwarded to immigration. 

Many would opt just to remain in Thailand given extension stamp is in pp. 

 

At some point prior to expiry of current permission of stay you could exit Thailand and reenter either with a Non O from a nearby country using eVisa application or enter visa exempt and obtain Non O at immigration. 

 

Just general info note that if wife passes away your permission of stay would remain valid till it's expiry. 

1 hour ago, DrJack54 said:

The extension is void from date of divorce. 

That information is not forwarded to immigration. 

Many would opt just to remain in Thailand given extension stamp is in pp. 

 

At some point prior to expiry of current permission of stay you could exit Thailand and reenter either with a Non O from a nearby country using eVisa application or enter visa exempt and obtain Non O at immigration. 

 

Just general info note that if wife passes away your permission of stay would remain valid till it's expiry. 

I wasnt talking about divorce, sorry if my post was unclear. I was asking about toxic separation. So your answer is, if the wife is not present for a change to retirement the only option is to depart the country and start again?

2 hours ago, BrandonJT said:

An extension based on marriage is null and void the moment the divorce is final.  The person would either need to leave Thailand that day, or go to immigration and apply for a new extension based on a new reason immediately (along with divorce documents).

There is usually a period between separation and formal divorce. There very likely may be a physical, medical or emotional reason the wife would not attend an extension change,.

 

I'm well aware the extension terminates with divorce.

18 minutes ago, Old Croc said:

I wasnt talking about divorce, sorry if my post was unclear. I was asking about toxic separation.

Your question was clear. 

I was posting for others re wife passing. 

My advice re exit Thailand was an option. 

IMO a practical one.

Just putting myself in those shoes I would attend to the obvious and at some point exit Thailand prior to expiry of stamp in pp and "start over" Obtaining a new Non O either outside of Thailand (eVisa) or from visa exempt entry 

10 hours ago, Old Croc said:

There is usually a period between separation and formal divorce. There very likely may be a physical, medical or emotional reason the wife would not attend an extension change,.

 

I'm well aware the extension terminates with divorce.

Simply explain the reason for the change.
My wife and I have separated, but not divorced.

8 hours ago, Liquorice said:

Simply explain the reason for the change.
My wife and I have separated, but not divorced.

So there was no insistance she attend when extending for retirement?

1 hour ago, Old Croc said:

So there was no insistance she attend when extending for retirement?

The following is AI reply however it's also my understanding. ..... 

 

"No, the wife does not need to attend immigration for a change to a retirement extension after divorceAfter a divorce, the ex-wife's extension of stay based on marriage is automatically cancelled. The retiree will need to go to immigration to cancel the existing extension and apply for a new one based on retirement" 

 

The first sentence is a mismash but you get the intent. 

You would need divorce papers. 

Realize you posted hypothetical however you did mention acrimonious divorce. 

In some cases best to start over. 

The other thing is that you could do this even before divorce is final (more flexible) 

 

2 hours ago, Old Croc said:

So there was no insistance she attend when extending for retirement?

Apologies for the misunderstanding. My wife and I are happily married.

I was suggesting, if questioned, the OP should state "My wife and I have separated, but not divorced".

 

I've known a few change the reason from Thai spouse to retirement, mainly due to requiring less documents and no 30-day under consideration period.
Occasionally an IO would inquire if the spouse was aware of the change, but in most cases they just proceeded with the application.

2 hours ago, Old Croc said:

So there was no insistance she attend when extending for retirement?

Here is thread some options when divorcing. 

https://aseannow.com/topic/1343377-divorced-while-on-marriage-extension/

 

Here is basic cut/paste from a summary of @Tod Daniels answer in another forum regarding change to retirement when divorcing. 

 

"A foreigner living in Thailand on a Non-O marriage visa can switch to a retirement visa after a divorce. Upon signing the divorce decree, he should immediately go to the immigration office to cancel his marriage extension and apply for the retirement extension. Alternatively, he can wait until his current extension expires and change the reason for the extension from marriage to retirement, provided he meets the retirement visa requirements"

1 hour ago, DrJack54 said:

Alternatively, he can wait until his current extension expires and change the reason for the extension from marriage to retirement, provided he meets the retirement visa requirements"

I'd dispute that, Jack.

Once your divorce is final, the reason for the extension is void.
 

Quote

Upon signing the divorce decree, he should immediately go to the immigration office to cancel his marriage extension and apply for the retirement extension.

That is the correct advice.

5 hours ago, Liquorice said:

Occasionally an IO would inquire if the spouse was aware of the change, but in most cases they just proceeded with the application.

Have never read anything remotely similar advice to that. 

In fact here is thread of first hand experiences of wife must be in attendance. 

https://aseannow.com/topic/1294679-changing-marriage-extension-to-retirement/

 

3 hours ago, Liquorice said:

I'd dispute that, Jack.

Once your divorce is final, the reason for the extension is void.

You quoted my cut and paste from @Tod Daniels. 

I think he was referring to if not yet divorced and wife agreeable then you could wait till current extension is due to expire and change to retirement extensions. 

6 hours ago, DrJack54 said:

Have never read anything remotely similar advice to that. 

In fact here is thread of first hand experiences of wife must be in attendance. 

https://aseannow.com/topic/1294679-changing-marriage-extension-to-retirement/

I don't doubt the OP's particular experience, but I know a few who changed without question.
I think many IO's would rather process an application based on retirement that those based on Thai spouse, so they don't want to make waves if that's your choice.