No secrets here, they didn't or refused to hand over the brown envelop

9 hours ago, Anastasios said:

"Morality is constant" is a retarded statement, some basic axioms can be established however for everything else, there are contextual interpretations and shared values. Go back to reading an entry level book on philosophy.

 

In one paragraph you claim no woman can enjoy this lifestyle. Let me open your eyes and tell you that some women do this for FREE! 

 

You are unable to see what YOU think they can enjoy, accept, live with, tolerate et.c. vs what someone ELSE can. YOUR subjective interpretation of how they experience things is INVALID for them, regardless of how hard you try to rationalize it by claiming you know better than everyone else because you have analysed the past experiences of all prostitutes ever to exist.

 

And whether their children would not be proud of it, same goes for too many professions, which are necessary for society to function.

 

How I get groomed by my family to make money? Ask yourself, you made the definitions and I fit into them, so you tell me how I ended up having to sacrifice my time and effort for my family.

 

Again what a pile of dog <deleted> to have to read. Only the dumbest people point their finger at people as if they are above everyone else, and when you point out that they can't reason, they double down and answer with yet again an inability to reason.

Sorry you can't fully fathom what I wrote. Using the word retarded which doesn't fit here shows more, as most adults understand what type of thinking goes into using that word in this context.

 

Morality should be a constant, Meaning good moral behavior towards women,  and obviously with some it isn't. Different societies have different moral codes and some of them aren't in favor of women. Morality is a human condition, and some can change that morality to their own gains. Morality is a constant negotiation between intent and action. Morals change over time due to a variety of factors, including cultural, social, political, and technological developments. Permissiveness can change morals for personal gain. 

 

Having sex isn't the problem, and yes, many women actually enjoy it. Some are called nymphos because they have a lot of sex with different people. It's usually from a BPD, bipolar or epilepsy . If that's what you meant about some women doing this for free. That isn't prostitution. Those who sell their bodies to strangers on a daily basis are quite different in thinking. A prostitute isn't doing their job for pleasure but for others pleasure. And thinking a normal woman likes having sex with strangers for money also shows a severe lack of knowledge on this subject. 

 

It has absolutely nothing to do with what I think about them as it's not my opinion why they do what they do.

 

What you fail to still understand is why they get into this trade in the first place. There are those reasons I mentioned, and it isn't about pleasurable sex. That you think they're somehow happy in this life? Most are suffering from a mental illness, brought on by how they were raised as children, meaning those that went to this trade willingly without force. Yes, the money gives them power, but at what cost, as a lot of others making a lot of money sacrifice some things also, including their mental stability. 

 

I never said I or anyone was better than those involved. Better choices and coming from a more stable background yes. A person who provides for their family isn't being groomed by anyone. It's a responsibility a man or woman has to those they love.

 

It might be a good idea for you to research before you respond, as there are certainly reasons why you say what you do, and it doesn't have to do with knowledge but ignorance and a blindness to the psychological reasons people do what they do, and most of it comes from their childhood.

 

I'm also wondering about you, seeing you joined in 2016 and only have a few posts, likely because you have more usernames and are also likely one who constantly comes back and argues with me, among a few others. You're also a person who assumes they know what others know, or how they think. You don't, and haven't a clue what I know and why. Better to research more and talk less.

On 8/16/2025 at 11:27 AM, CallumWK said:

 

Age of consent in Thailand is 15 years old.

 

The age of consent is irrelevant; Thailand has a specific law that makes it illegal to pay for sex with a person under 18.  Under applicable  national law and international treaties, a girl of 17 is a child.  This clashes with the use of the word "child" in everyday speech because most of us don't think of a 17-year-old as a child.  However, that doesn't change the fact that paying her for sex is child prostitution under the law.

 

The age of consent has to do with laws regarding marriage, not prostitution.  Nor does it matter whether an 17-year-old participates in prostitution voluntarily and without any form of coercion; it's still defined as trafficking under the law.  It's entirely correct for the Thai police to raid any bar in the country that employs under*ge girls for purposes of prostitution and to prosecute those responsible for trafficking as well as anyone, Thai or foreigner, who pays for the  girls' services.

 

Another factor to keep in mind is that Thailand wants to score as high as possible in the U.S. State Dept. Trafficking in Persons annual report.  https://www.state.gov/reports/2024-trafficking-in-persons-report/thailand/  By raiding bars and busting as many human traffickers as possible, the BiB gain a lot of brownie points with U.S. authorities. The worry about Thailand's ranking in the report is real among Thai decision makers.  It's not just a matter of face but practicality.  A low score can carry some heavy consequences in real life for the Thai economy.  

 

And for those of you who want all the details  (I highlighted the text in bold blue):

The Prevention and Suppression of Prostitution Act, B.E. 2539 (1996) in Section 8 makes it illegal to pay for sex with any person under the age of 18 "with or without his or her consent."  Penalties are even tougher if they are under 15.   Section 9 of the act states that, "Any person who procures, seduces or takes away any person for the prostitution of such person, even with her or his consent and irrespective of whether the various acts which constitute an offence are committed within or outside the Kingdom, shall be liable to imprisonment for a term of one to ten years and to a fine of twenty thousand to two hundred thousand Baht."

https://www.asianlii.org/th/legis/consol_act/pasopa1996528/

 

This law is based on the United Nations' Convention on the Rights of the Child, which defines "child" as any person under the age of 18.  The same definition is used in the U.N.'s Optional Protocol to the Convention on the Rights of the Child on the sale of children, child prostitution and child pornography.  The U.N.  convention also stresses consenting to provide sexual services is irrelevant.

 

https://www.ohchr.org/en/instruments-mechanisms/instruments/convention-rights-child

https://www.ohchr.org/en/instruments-mechanisms/instruments/optional-protocol-convention-rights-child-sale-children-child

 

Thailand is a signatory nation of the Convention and the Protocol, so its domestic laws have to reflect the U.N. definition.

 

Do they ever raid Thai places? Or those kind of actions are unpopular? I am tired of reading about Thai police taking care of foreign-related venues only. And most of us know where the true crime (including underage one) is. Sometimes it feels like Thai crime is not considered to be a crime at all. You need foreigners involved to make it sound like a true crime for the general Thai public.