‘Putin clearly won’: Pundits say meeting was ‘bad for Americans’

[save the frogs]

this thread title is silly.

they are collaborating. 

more mainstream media spin. 

 

[BarraMarra]

Start a different thread then Savethefrogs or dont post anymore on it if you think its silly.

[Tidal wave]

What a stunt

[GroveHillWanderer]

2 hours ago, Screaming said:

Even Hillary has claimed that she will nominate President Trump for the Peace Prize if he is successful in negotiating peace. 

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2025/08/15/hillary-clinton-says-trump-could-win-nobel-peace-prize-if-he-ends-war-ukraine-i-d-nominate-him/

 

Actually, she didn't say that she'd nominate him simply for negotiating peace. 

 

As that Breitbart article correctly points out, she said she'd nominate him: 

 

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"if he could end it without putting Ukraine in a position where it had to concede its territory to the aggressor"

 

That's a very important condition and one that I rather doubt Trump will be able to deliver.

[RayC]

2 hours ago, connda said:

Most Westerners want a hot war with Russia where everyone - but themselves or course - are sent to the Russia front to "teach Putin and the Russians a lesson."  30% or so probably want nukes launched at Russia.

If anything the Russians and Putin are statesmen and diplomats.  The West, especially the Western main-stream media, hate Russia, Russian, and especially Putin.  

If these negotiations could lead to an end of conflict and a rapprochement between Russia and the US, a reestablishment of diplomatic relationship, and new nuclear arms treaties to roll the Nuclear Doomsday Clock back an hour or so.  But? I'd say the majority of those in Washington DC as well a virtually all main-stream media outlets what conflict and eventual war with Russia.

For those AN members who think the same - you people and you hyperbolic propaganda and hatred of everything non-Western really are insane.  I pray that cooler mind prevail and this belligerent hate-speak toward Russia is ignored and diplomatic teams from the US and Russia can hammer out long-term diplomatic, economic, and peace treaties.  Personally I don't care if Ukraine becomes a rump state.  It will make a good buffer between the EU elites who are itching for full-scale war with Russia and the Russian Federation including Crimea, and the other four obelisks which are now part of Russia. Those will never go back to Ukraine.  So at this point I'm cautiously optimistic. 

 "You're a Putin Lover!"
 Yeah, you're right. I have more respect for Putin's statesmanship then virtually any other world leader other than the foreign ministers of Russia and China.  Get over it. Your hate has no affect on me. I just reflects on your own intolerance and ingrained ethnic hatred.  

 

A rant completely devoid of any facts or evidence which support it.

 

TBF at least you admit to being an apologist for Putin's warmongering which I suppose is something.

[transam]

11 minutes ago, Tidal wave said:

What a stunt

Yeh, shake hands with Hitler 2025......😬

[RayC]

4 hours ago, Harrisfan said:

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Amongst other things, this war has had a major negative effect on energy supplies in Europe, disrupted other supply lines, led to an influx of refugees from Ukraine and cost EU member states +/-$180bn to date in aid and grants to Ukraine.

 

Other than a few defence companies whose profits have increased, pray tell what other benefits prolonging this war will bring for the EU (and/or the UK for that matter)?

[still kicking]

16 minutes ago, Tidal wave said:

What a stunt

Trumps Gaza Hotels 

[theblether]

1 hour ago, Hummin said:

That's the narrative Magas like to think is the Truth. Only Magas think so

 

Only MAGA's think what? Spell it out

 

[BLMFem]

2 hours ago, impulse said:

 

The fact that they can't hide is that Putin took Crimea on Obama's watch and Donbass on Biden's.

 

This shows the reality...  It's a lot easier to make a mess than to clean up after someone else has.  This mess belongs to Obama and Biden.  Trump's cleaning it up.

 

 

Really. How far has he gotten in the cleaning process that should have been done after 24 hrs?

[theblether]

Anyone who thinks Trump is responsible for what's happened and happening in Ukraine is demented 

 

Not one of you is prepared to pay the price required to force Russia back over the border. Not one. 

[Will B Good]

[bamnutsak]

trump warned Putin that there would be serious consequences if no cease-fire agreement came out of Friday's meeting.

 

 

Well now, no ice cream for Vlad.

 

trump is such a wuss.

 

 

 

 

 

[Hummin]

59 minutes ago, theblether said:

Anyone who thinks Trump is responsible for what's happened and happening in Ukraine is demented 

 

Not one of you is prepared to pay the price required to force Russia back over the border. Not one. 

 

No one is responsible except Russia who felt weakness and had to use force.

 

1 hour ago, theblether said:

 

Only MAGA's think what? Spell it out

 

 

Go back and read my reply to the one I quoted 

 

You are 🤗 

 

[bannork]

The Trump fan boys are smarting because their hero got caned in Alaska.

Trump gave Putin credibility, inviting him to the US, having promised only a week ago he would get tough and ramp up tariffs on India and China buying Russian oil.

Trump is weak, very weak and Putin knows it.

[Mavideol]

1 hour ago, Tidal wave said:

What a stunt

all prepared for TACO goal of getting the Nobel Peace Prize

[proton]

Can you imagine Kamala meeting Putin if she had won? probably have ended up on her knees 😆

[Mavideol]

45 minutes ago, Will B Good said:

she still number 2... 555

[still kicking]

Not demented? Can't even walk straight. But maybe it's the heat in Alaska.

Video | Facebook

[BarraMarra]

Putin took his Doggie for a walk on the lead.

[xylophone]

3 minutes ago, still kicking said:

Not demented? Can't even walk straight. But maybe it's the heat in Alaska.

Video | Facebook

Surely that video can't be right??

[sammieuk1]

2 hours ago, sammieuk1 said:

Nothing but an orange slime trail leading to Vlads video stash by the look of it impeach the crackpot dictator and Putin 🤔

 

[Mavideol]

15 minutes ago, bannork said:

The Trump fan boys are smarting because their hero got caned in Alaska.

Trump gave Putin credibility, inviting him to the US, having promised only a week ago he would get tough and ramp up tariffs on India and China buying Russian oil.

Trump is weak, very weak and Putin knows it.

world's #1 pariah  got a free pass to the international community show thanks to Trump, Putin was all gloom about it and the Russians back home will venerate him for the trip 

 

They even claimed he wore a 'light exoskeleton' as well as thick-platform shoes to overcome his 'Napoleon complex' and minimise his height difference with the US president. 

Putin shaking his head and shouting over journalists as they asked when Ukraine war would stop

 

https://www.msn.com/en-xl/news/other/putin-shaking-his-head-and-shouting-over-journalists-as-they-asked-when-ukraine-war-would-stop/ar-AA1KCYRE?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=LCTS&cvid=23a714cf11b44993a582b6d1134c0d8f&ei=47

[ronnie50]

6 hours ago, Lacessit said:

Putin was probably giving Trump his latest instructions. Everything indicates he has something really damning on Trump - Russian money, or a Russian honey trap.

 

It was a propaganda coup for Putin, legitimizing a war criminal.

 

 

IIRC, in Trump and Putin's last meeting, didn't they close the door and kick everyone out for a brief period (except translators) so they could have a 'private' conversation?

[Mavideol]

look at the pariah's attitude when asked direct questions... and Trump addressed him by his first name Vladimyr, what the forkkkkk is wrong with the orange man

As one reporter shouted: “Mr Putin, will you break your ceasefire?” it was clear he was not in a cocoon of Kremlin mouthpiece Russian media, but surrounded by US journalists determined to hold him to account.

His wry smile evaporated into one of alarm. He looked pleadingly to the left and furrowed his brow.

A stealth bomber, a shouting match and an awkward moment for Putin: Everything you missed

https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/stealth-bomber-shouting-match-awkward-082418020.html

[bannork]

Just now, ronnie50 said:

IIRC, in Trump and Putin's last meeting, didn't they close the door and kick everyone out for a brief period (except translators) so they could have a 'private' conversation?

Who was in The Beast apart from Putin, Trump and the driver?

[ronnie50]

2 minutes ago, bannork said:

Who was in The Beast apart from Putin, Trump and the driver?

Good point. Forgot about that. (I assume just them. Do we know for sure?)

[simple1]

2 hours ago, impulse said:

 

Anyone who believed political hyperbole like that in the runup to an election is naive, at best.  I'd actually use a stronger word than naive...

 

Similar to those who actually believed they could vote by text for Hillary.  (For which a guy named Mackey got tossed into prison just for forwarding this obvious joke). 

A number of MAGA supporters on this forum constantly repeated Trump's claim in support of voting for Trump 2.0, were they joking - I think not, as were his supporters in general. In anycase Trump claimed he was being sarcastic, thereby doubling down with his BS when thousands were dying every week.

 

The other matter you mentioned was in reference to voter disenfranchisement, presumedly by a Trump supporter for which he was convicted, not an attempted "joke" - more MAGA BS.

 

https://www.justice.gov/usao-edny/pr/social-media-influencer-douglass-mackey-sentenced-after-conviction-election

[Tug]

6 hours ago, Harrisfan said:

$

Memories of 1939 is more like it you can thank a simple lay person for enlightening you later……oh I forgot you are magga never mind.

[Tug]

31 minutes ago, proton said:

Can you imagine Kamala meeting Putin if she had won? probably have ended up on her knees 😆

She would have NEVER invited a war criminal (WHO ACTUALLY DOES arm his criminals and mentally ill)and sends them to murder rape and loot his neighbors…..