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Warm smiles, a ride in the Beast and a united front but no deal

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On 8/16/2025 at 12:57 AM, Bannoi said:

Since leaving the army I have come to the realisation that the general population was probably only told half of what we were told.

 

And we were told jack s hit.

Exactly! 45 years Navy and civil service here. What people think they know from the media is WAY WAY LESS than 10% of the true story. With PDJT, he’s playing the political game like a multilayer chess game, manipulating the many facets of the game. 

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  • Did anybody in their right mind (this automatically excludes the MAGAnista element) really expect Trump (the art of the deal)  to reach an agreement with Putin?

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1 minute ago, RMK54 said:

Exactly! 45 years Navy and civil service here. What people think they know from the media is WAY WAY LESS than 10% of the true story. With PDJT, he’s playing the political game like a multilayer chess game, manipulating the many facets of the game. 

Hilarious.

Actually he has no idea what he's doing. Chess, my arse.

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Gonna be some kind of fight in that oval room on Monday.

 

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/european-leaders-join-zelenskiy-meeting-113549399.html

(Bloomberg) -- European leaders will join Volodymyr Zelenskiy at his high-stakes meeting with Donald Trump on Monday in Washington, a show of support as Ukraine’s leader faces growing US pressure to agree to a quick peace deal with Russia that involves ceding swaths of territory.

European Commission President Ursula von der Leyen, NATO Secretary General Mark Rutte, Finnish President Alexander Stubb, German Chancellor Friedrich Merz, UK Prime Minister Keir Starmer and French President Emmanuel Macron have confirmed their participation. Italian Prime Minister Giorgia Meloni will join the talks as well, according to an official.

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4 hours ago, NickyLouie said:

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Trump suffers another geography fail after calling Alaska ‘Russia’ as he rants ahead of Putin meeting: ‘Leningrad free’

 

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/trump-alaska-russia-putin-leningrad-b2806865.html

 

Two days after he twice said he was 'going to Russia' for his Alaska summit with Vladimir Putin, President Donald Trump used a Soviet-era name to describe Russia’s second-largest city as he attacked a former adviser on social media.

Writing on Truth Social to complain about “very unfair media” coverage of his upcoming summit with the Russian president, he said the press would even go so far to say he’d made a “bad deal” even if he reached an agreement for the United States to acquire “Moscow and Leningrad” without giving up anything in return.

The president appeared to be unaware of one small detail: The city he called “Leningrad” is actually called St. Petersburg and has been since city residents voted to ditch the Soviet-era name in June 1991.

 

https://cdn.jwplayer.com/previews/qZk4y75q

 

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What did anyone expect from an American president that called Putin’s invasion genius???who try’s to humiliate a leader fighting for his country’s survival against a enemy who does indeed for real empty his prisons and asylums arms the inmates and sends them to rape loot and kill his neighbors???face it trump is putins tool no more no less.it is what it is.

14 hours ago, Mavideol said:

how can a country at war have elections, you should change the pills man, they aren't working

Er...maybe that's why they want peace so one can be had?

I don't think it's my meds that need changing.

The no peace no elections recycles regularly in the last 3 years.

Maybe  the simplicity of that defeats your comprehension?

I guess I will give you the benefit of doubt on that one. 😏 

If Trump walked on water the lefty haters would complain he could not swim

Let me reintroduce the elephant in the room.

 

Russia went to war because the U.S. was backing Ukraine to be apart of NATO, which was a violation of the agreement made after WWll that Ukraine would NEVER be apart of NATO.

 

 

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3 hours ago, wombat said:

Let me reintroduce the elephant in the room.

 

Russia went to war because the U.S. was backing Ukraine to be apart of NATO, which was a violation of the agreement made after WWll that Ukraine would NEVER be apart of NATO.

 

 

Not the reason. You've been infected with Kremlin propaganda. They're really good at that.

3 hours ago, proton said:

If Trump walked on water the lefty haters would complain he could not swim

Even if he could swim, I don't want to see that. You could never undo it.

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3 hours ago, wombat said:

Let me reintroduce the elephant in the room.

 

Russia went to war because the U.S. was backing Ukraine to be apart of NATO, which was a violation of the agreement made after WWll that Ukraine would NEVER be apart of NATO.

 

 

 

Even if that were the case........going to war was a ridiculous solution.

 

Putin has illusions of grandeur .........an expanded empire and Ukraine is the crock of gold. 

Well didn't that trigger the kool aid drinkers..pmsl 

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4 hours ago, wombat said:

Let me reintroduce the elephant in the room.

 

Russia went to war because the U.S. was backing Ukraine to be apart of NATO, which was a violation of the agreement made after WWll that Ukraine would NEVER be apart of NATO.

 

 

I still thin that u should change the pills as u have no idea what u are talking about... 1994 Ukraine and Russia signed an agreement, it's called the Budapest, present were some other countries, do you home search and get updated... now in regards to NATO again the pills still not working, Ukraine is an independent sovereign country, they can do whatever they want, neighbors have nothing to do with that, imagine you wnat to buy a red car but your neighbors want you to buy white car, how is that going in your brain now.... better???

On 8/16/2025 at 12:07 PM, CallumWK said:

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The expression I read from Putin's face.

 

Putin : I've got you by the balls for a long time already, and you know it, so better ease down on your bullying.

Don't want to change anything so you'll need to use Chrome to translate this... here's the original link to just how much he has him by the balls: https://www.facebook.com/alnurKZ/posts/pfbid02nuwJMAXvqN2H66Xh7GckuBgEEnUq3XDRi61T25RoBR5Rdgz3sq5AXpqBmWt6Sg7ml#dmid=4dda76c9-26ef-4318-afd9-77f8ec7d7559

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4 hours ago, wombat said:

Er...maybe that's why they want peace so one can be had?

I don't think it's my meds that need changing.

The no peace no elections recycles regularly in the last 3 years.

Maybe  the simplicity of that defeats your comprehension?

I guess I will give you the benefit of doubt on that one. 😏 

It is not allowed by Ukraine constitution. Maybe  the simplicity of that defeats your comprehension?

It's a shame Trump didn't win the previous election, we never would have had this war.

 

Thankfully Trump is on it to sort it out, hopefully the warmonger Zelensky won't ruin it.

15 minutes ago, candide said:

It is not allowed by Ukraine constitution. Maybe  the simplicity of that defeats your comprehension?

So if Trump can change the US constitution to say elections can not be held in times of war, and technically the US is permanently at war, you and team woke will be happy with this? Trump forever, seceeded by Don jr then Baron because yep, wars didnt end.🤣

Or is this excusing Zelensky of being a dictator because the Ukraine constitution....blah blah is YET ANOTHER dishonest and silly narrative.

 

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10 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

It's a shame Trump didn't win the previous election, we never would have had this war.

 

Thankfully Trump is on it to sort it out, hopefully the warmonger Zelensky won't ruin it.

Because Putin is afraid of Trump? 🤣🤣🤣🤣

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1 minute ago, SunnyinBangrak said:

So if Trump can change the US constitution to say elections can not be held in times of war, and technically the US is permanently at war, you and team woke will be happy with this?

Or is this excusing Zelensky of being a dictator because the Ukraine constitution....blah blah is YET ANOTHER dishonest and silly narrative.

 

Lame imaginary argument.... and Zelinski did not change the constitution.

Your blah blah is another dishonest and silly Russian narrative! 🤣

2 minutes ago, candide said:

Because Putin is afraid of Trump? 🤣🤣🤣🤣

 

No, because Putin and Trump have excellent rapport and Trump is unpredictable. Putin would not have risked a war with the US, which was never going to happen with Biden.

 

Terrible to see Europe play such a destructive role of pouring gasoline on the fire. Nothing the EU is doing makes peace more likely.

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6 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

 

No, because Putin and Trump have excellent rapport and Trump is unpredictable. Putin would not have risked a war with the US, which was never going to happen with Biden.

 

Terrible to see Europe play such a destructive role of pouring gasoline on the fire. Nothing the EU is doing makes peace more likely.

Trump would have tacoed, as usual, and Putin knew it..🤣

7 minutes ago, candide said:

Trump would have tacoed, as usual, and Putin knew it..🤣

 

Very silly thing to say. It's not like Trump had leverage over Putin who's clearly  winning the war. Putin made a very generous offer of only taking the Donbas, and giving up territory the Russians conquered. Had Trump not made efforts for peace I doubt Putin would have been so generous.

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9 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

 

Very silly thing to say. It's not like Trump had leverage over Putin who's clearly  winning the war. Putin made a very generous offer of only taking the Donbas, and giving up territory the Russians conquered. Had Trump not made efforts for peace I doubt Putin would have been so generous.

You sure? It's not what I read. I read that Putin would get the part of Donbass he doesn't yet occupies, in exchange for freezing the current frontl8ne in other regions.....

Just now, candide said:

You sure? It's not what I read. I read that Putin would get the part of Donbass he doesn't yet occupies, in exchange for freezing the current frontl8ne in other regions.....

 

I doubt Putin would have demanded that. Probably false.

 

Maybe as a negotiation chip at most.

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8 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

 

I doubt Putin would have demanded that. Probably false.

 

Maybe as a negotiation chip at most.

That's what's written everywhere, I.e.

 

It comes after Putin reportedly presented Trump with a peace offer in Alaska on Friday that would require Ukraine withdrawing from the Donetsk region of the Donbas, in return for Russia freezing the front lines in Zaporizhzhia and Kherson.

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/crm4ln2ekg1o

 

So basically, the achievement of the "great negotiator" (Trump), is to give Russia more land that it currently occupies......🙂

 

13 minutes ago, candide said:

That's what's written everywhere, I.e.

 

It comes after Putin reportedly presented Trump with a peace offer in Alaska on Friday that would require Ukraine withdrawing from the Donetsk region of the Donbas, in return for Russia freezing the front lines in Zaporizhzhia and Kherson.

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/crm4ln2ekg1o

 

So basically, the achievement of the "great negotiator" (Trump), is to give Russia more land that it currently occupies......🙂

 

 

I know, well even if it were true, which it probably isn't, we can all make demands. Whether those demands will be met is another story.

 

It is very laudable for Trump to engage with Putin. Without Trump the slaugther would have continued for years. Now we may have a resolution if Zelensky is sensible.

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On 8/16/2025 at 12:01 PM, stevenl said:

I did, i expected this to happen.

 

Trump could have promised Putin a deal, where Russia gets Crimea, Donbass and other regions there, while in return Ukraine promises to stop it's ambition for a NATO and EU membership.

It is not up to Trump, is it. He can make as many deals as he likes, they are useless without Zelensky and Ukraine's (with European leaders' advice and support) signatures.

On 8/16/2025 at 11:56 AM, stevenl said:

He would have announced a big win.

Today it is starting to look like that promises were given according to DJT's posting on "Truth social" last night. Or maybe he just changed his mind once again. Let's wait and see what will be future postings as it can change by the minute.

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4 hours ago, thaibreaker said:

It is not up to Trump, is it. He can make as many deals as he likes, they are useless without Zelensky and Ukraine's (with European leaders' advice and support) signatures.

I hope EU and UK don't give in to trump and Putin.

2 hours ago, stevenl said:

I hope EU and UK don't give in to trump and Putin.

NATO..

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