1 minute ago, sungod said:

Refusing to watch it just shows weakness. 

 

He already watched it.

 

He is just pretending he hasn't so he doesn't have to give an opinion.

 

Cowardly in the extreme. 

8 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

The only thing I need to know about the law in this case is the defendant pled not guilty and therefore was tried in an open Crown Court before a Jury.

 

You've been reduced to this 😄.

 

1 minute ago, JonnyF said:

He is just pretending he hasn't so he doesn't have to give an opinion.

 

His silence speaks volumes, he's got nothing left. Everyone can see that. 

I will confess to being unable to understand the thinking behind these UK laws that lock people up for absurd lengths of time for exercising their right to free speech. What happened to one of the freest and most advanced countries in the world?

5 minutes ago, Felton Jarvis said:

I will confess to being unable to understand the thinking behind these UK laws that lock people up for absurd lengths of time for exercising their right to free speech. What happened to one of the freest and most advanced countries in the world?

 

We have free speech in the UK but not if it's likely to stir up racial hatred.

Higgott has been thrashed on this thread. What an embarrassment he is.

Just now, Mr Meeseeks said:

Higgott has been thrashed on this thread. What an embarrassment he is.

 

 

He has had it coming...................😃

3 minutes ago, brewsterbudgen said:

 

We have free speech in the UK but not if it's likely to stir up racial hatred.

 

Need to get used to the hatred growing as colonisation of the UK by Third-World parasites replacing the indigenous population continues.

 

A true hate crime and genocide is happening right under our noses.

 

People are standing up to it and calling them racists to silence their views when they oppose and voice an opinion is not going to work anymore.

11 minutes ago, Felton Jarvis said:

What happened to one of the freest and most advanced countries in the world?

 

Starmer happened.

 

17 minutes ago, Mr Meeseeks said:

Higgott has been thrashed on this thread. What an embarrassment he is.

 

He lost the plot when he said running a finger across your throat asking for them to be slashed was open to interpretation! 

 

Dear oh dear......

1 hour ago, JonnyF said:

 

You're the type of person that would have been demanding the execution of the Central Park 5. 

 

You mean like your hero Donald Trump did? For 14 and 15 year olds too. He even took out full page ads in four newspapers calling for their execution.

 

Just now, sungod said:

 

He lost the plot when he said running a finger across your throat asking for them to be slashed was open to interpretation! 

 

Dear oh dear......

 

Just arguing for arguing sake. 

 

He's lost all credibility now.

1 minute ago, Mr Meeseeks said:

 

Just arguing for arguing sake. 

 

He's lost all credibility now.

 

 

What credibility?......😀

3 minutes ago, Mr Meeseeks said:

 

Just arguing for arguing sake. 

 

He's lost all credibility now.

 

He never had any to start with

 

He is a puppet. The 1st visitors to Downing Street, will tell you who is pulling his strings.

3 hours ago, Gsxrnz said:

That's one political prisoner released, although maybe Alex Belfield also qualifies.

 

Thousands more are still banged up and the Stassi (formerly your local Bobby) have their sights on many more hurty-word terrorists.

 

I'm guessing the punishment for painting a roundabout circle with a red cross will be in the 3-5 year category.  I wish I was joking. 

Your comment about the "Stassi" (formerly local Bobby) is one of those "Many true words spoken in jest"!!

Many years ago when living in Newbury, Berkshire.  Local cop (Sergeant) did my yearly shotgun renewal certificate, in the 1990's.  he told me then that the police had lost the trust/respect of this generation of teenagers and he hoped they would not lose the next.

But, his comment how the police were looking to recruit a different type of person!

(Fastrack uniformed, management that never worked the streets)  from the accepted norm would mean the police would lose the trust of my generation and be alienated from the public.  How prophetic his words were.

 

When three policemen in 2008, wrongly identified my son pushing him into a roughcast wall where he suffered wounds requiring 63 stitches to close, the police got away with it, no cameras active???  final findings were "A regrettable incident where lessons have been learned".  My son who were alone and innocent did not even receive an apology.

 

Do I trust the British police..........   

2 minutes ago, tmd5855 said:

Your comment about the "Stassi" (formerly local Bobby) is one of those "Many true words spoken in jest"!!

Many years ago when living in Newbury, Berkshire.  Local cop (Sergeant) did my yearly shotgun renewal certificate, in the 1990's.  he told me then that the police had lost the trust/respect of this generation of teenagers and he hoped they would not lose the next.

But, his comment how the police were looking to recruit a different type of person!

(Fastrack uniformed, management that never worked the streets)  from the accepted norm would mean the police would lose the trust of my generation and be alienated from the public.  How prophetic his words were.

 

When three policemen in 2008, wrongly identified my son pushing him into a roughcast wall where he suffered wounds requiring 63 stitches to close, the police got away with it, no cameras active???  final findings were "A regrettable incident where lessons have been learned".  My son who were alone and innocent did not even receive an apology.

 

Do I trust the British police..........   

 

You should never trust police.

 

In any country.

 

In every country police are useless at best, and so stupid it's dangerous at worst.

 

It's the same in every country.

3 hours ago, Gsxrnz said:

That's one political prisoner released, although maybe Alex Belfield also qualifies.

 

Thousands more are still banged up and the Stassi (formerly your local Bobby) have their sights on many more hurty-word terrorists.

 

I'm guessing the punishment for painting a roundabout circle with a red cross will be in the 3-5 year category.  I wish I was joking. 

did you learn nothing at school?

2 hours ago, JonnyF said:

Great to see this political prisoner released. 

 

Never should have spent a single day in jail. 

 

We are living in a very dark period in terms of freedom of speech in the UK. A right winger speaking out against the government's failed immigration policy faces the very real risk of jail time. I hope Lucy and her daughter can get over this disgusting injustice. 

 

 

Unless it's your boy Ricky Jones, right 2 Tier? Been very quiet on that one. 

 

Ahh Jonny, always the bastion of free speach. For those that are not fully aware of what Lucy Connolly actually tweeted, let me enlighten you; '“Mass deportation now, set fire to all the f****** hotels full of the b******* for all I care… if that makes me racist so be it.”  This was retweeted 310,000 times before it was deleted.

For this, she was charged with inciting racial hatred contrary to section 19 (1) of the Public Order Act of 1986. Seeing the writing on the wall, Connolly herself pleaded guilty  She was jailed for 31 months and as is her right (and that of every UK citizen), she tried to appeal, but this was dismissed by The Court of Appeals and her sentance upheld. As it stands, she only served 40% of this time (the minimum allowed in the UK) and was released after only 10 months.

 

She was never a 'political prisoner' and should absolutely have been charged for her racist and highly incendiary post. She even admitted to being racist at the time of posting ('if that makes me racist so be it'). Your attempt to make her into some sort of freedom of speach martyr goes against the very fundamentals of freedom of speach (Article 10 of the European Convention on Human Rights (ECHR), which is incorporated into UK law via the Human Rights Act 1998 which provides restrictions in free speach such as national security, public safety, preventing crime and disorder, protecting health or morals, and protecting the rights of others). In other words, people have freedom of speach but not freedom of consequences, aptly demonstrated by the often used shouting 'fire' in a packed cinema analogy.

 

If Lucy Connolly really wanted to 'speak out against the government's failed immigration policy' then there were a lot better ways than posting 'set fire to all the f****** hotels full of the b*******...' She got exactly what she deserved and if anything, got off lightly having only served 10 months.

1 hour ago, JonnyF said:

 

If you're not going to be honest there is little point debating with you.

 

We all know you've seen it. 

 

And you have already confirmed that’s an assumption on your part:

1 hour ago, JonnyF said:

 

I assume you have watched the video. 

 

 

1 hour ago, JonnyF said:

 

He already watched it.

 

He is just pretending he hasn't so he doesn't have to give an opinion.

 

Cowardly in the extreme. 

Tossing around the accusation of cowardice on the basis of your own lies that are uncovered by your confessed and documented assumption.

 

My goodness Jonny, you’re on a roll.

 

1 hour ago, JonnyF said:

 

You've been reduced to this 😄.

 

No, I’ve been reduced to relying on the facts of the Jury verdict.

 

You know the facts asl acquittal you struggle to accept.

1 minute ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Tossing around the accusation of cowardice on the basis of your own lies that are uncovered by your confessed and documented assumption.

 

My goodness Jonny, you’re on a roll.

 

 

 

Goodness, you are rambling worse than ever today.

 

 

Sit down and give your brain a rest

2 hours ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Ricky Jones was acquitted by a jury in an open court of law.

 

 A jury verdict of not guilty is not guilty.

 

You should try to come to terms with that fact.

 

You have a lot more faith in juries than many of us who have seen partisan and/or activist judges issue wonky jury instructions, lawyers venue shopping to guaranty a lefty jury pool, and plea deals that serve only to guaranty a specific outcome.

 

Not to mention, there's some truth to the old joke that only dumb people activists serve on juries.  I dodged jury duty for decades just on the basis of being employed and too busy.  When I did show up to serve (after retirement), it was an eye opener. I was able to predict almost 100% which of us would get selected and which would be excused.  As a retired engineer, my chances were pretty much nil.

 

 

51 minutes ago, Mr Meeseeks said:

Higgott has been thrashed on this thread. What an embarrassment he is.

And yet the facts say otherwise.

 

Hence the reliance those in denial of the acquittal resorting to personal attacks.

 

 

29 minutes ago, The Cyclist said:

 

He never had any to start with

 

He is a puppet. The 1st visitors to Downing Street, will tell you who is pulling his strings.

Oh look, your customary personal attack.

 

3 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

resorting to personal attacks.

 

1 minute ago, Chomper Higgot said:

customary personal attack.

 

 

Change the record and dry your eyes.

 

Time for 2 Deludamol and a lie down.

 

Off you pop.

5 minutes ago, impulse said:

 

You have a lot more faith in juries than many of us who have seen partisan and/or activist judges issue wonky jury instructions, lawyers venue shopping to guaranty a lefty jury pool, and plea deals that serve only to guaranty a specific outcome.

 

Not to mention, there's some truth to the old joke that only dumb people activists serve on juries.  I dodged jury duty for decades just on the basis of being employed and too busy.  When I did show up to serve (after retirement), it was an eye opener. I was able to predict almost 100% which of us would get selected and which would be excused.  As a retired engineer, my chances were pretty much nil.

 

 

Do you have evidence that the judges in either case were partisan or issued any wonky jury instructions?

 

Please present below.

1 minute ago, The Cyclist said:

 

 

 

Change the record and dry your eyes.

 

Time for 2 Deludamol and a lie down.

 

Off you pop.

I have no problem with you exposing your lack of arguments by resorting to school bike shed taunts.

 

 

Just now, Chomper Higgot said:

Do you have evidence that the judges in either case were partisan or issued any wonky jury instructions?

 

Please present below.

 

No clue in these cases.  Just in general, I don't believe that a jury trial guarantees a just outcome.  It's a good system, but not infallible.

 

43 minutes ago, josephbloggs said:

You mean like your hero Donald Trump did? For 14 and 15 year olds too. He even took out full page ads in four newspapers calling for their execution.

 

 

Strawman.

 

Besides this thread is not about Trump.