August 22, 2025Aug 22 Author 12 minutes ago, Hummin said: You cant hide severer depression, not possible, but mild cases of depression you can work, go shopping, but exhausted when back behind doors, and no energy for anything else. Severe depression you only leave your house when you absolutely have to. Severe depression is being living dead Exercise is the best cure for most.
August 22, 2025Aug 22 2 minutes ago, Harrisfan said: Exercise is the best cure for most. I know, but again, severe depression you hardly get out of bed to take a leak. Healthy lifestyle and thinking is a good prevention for severe depression happens again!
August 22, 2025Aug 22 9 minutes ago, Stuck in Thailand said: Yep, would go along with that. Anyway, another topic that has been a zillion times before on here, and one that brings out all the 'experts' of course. What is depressing is coming on here. I believe most people have been depressed once in their lifetime, but very few had severe depression if they managed to function in daily life, go to work, shopping, etc
August 22, 2025Aug 22 7 minutes ago, Hummin said: I believe most people have been depressed once in their lifetime, but very few had severe depression if they managed to function in daily life, go to work, shopping, etc Yes.
August 22, 2025Aug 22 Author 24 minutes ago, Hummin said: I know, but again, severe depression you hardly get out of bed to take a leak. Healthy lifestyle and thinking is a good prevention for severe depression happens again! Sadghuru says all thoughts are illusions including depression so people talked themselves into it can talk their way out of it
August 22, 2025Aug 22 4 minutes ago, Harrisfan said: Sadghuru says all thoughts are illusions including depression so people talked themselves into it can talk their way out of it I might have guessed you read that blokes stuff........ https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Gy7HCC7bAAAkxp3?format=jpg&name=900x900
August 22, 2025Aug 22 12 minutes ago, Harrisfan said: Sadghuru says all thoughts are illusions including depression so people talked themselves into it can talk their way out of it I can confirm that, but still there is a chronic depression under neath in our layers you have to treat every day, every hour, every minute and second to keep in check. Depression is a highway in your brain going all over the place, and not just one way or the other. But technically depression, can be kept in check by thoughts and constant focus on positivity and healthy lifestyle. I can sign that paper anytime
August 22, 2025Aug 22 16 minutes ago, Harrisfan said: Sadghuru says all thoughts are illusions including depression so people talked themselves into it can talk their way out of it If you have clinical depression you likely inherited it, along with possibly having a stressful environment, low serotonin or norepinephrine levels in the brain, brain structure, illness, low self esteem, relationship problems, and hormone levels, or a combination of any of those, all can factor into it. You can exercise daily, have a healthy lifestyle, get enough sleep, have a stress free job, friends and someone who loves you and it won't matter, as Anhedonia is a loss of feelings of everything you liked before. Environmental and seasonal can be treated with a change in living conditions. Clinical is something you can have anywhere, at any time, and it might never go away, all depending on how you got it yourself. You can get talk therapy and or medications to help with the symptoms, but no one can talk you out of it, and if you're deep into a dark cloud of depression, wrong thinking is involved where you might think nothing matters or will work.
August 22, 2025Aug 22 12 minutes ago, transam said: I might have guessed you read that blokes stuff........ https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Gy7HCC7bAAAkxp3?format=jpg&name=900x900 Sadhguru have been an important figure for many people, and you can not deny he do have good experiences to share for those who needs it, and also believe in him. Anything that makes people listening and do something to get better, is an improvement for most. Even it is just placebo.
August 22, 2025Aug 22 3 minutes ago, fredwiggy said: If you have clinical depression you likely inherited it, along with possibly having a stressful environment, low serotonin or norepinephrine levels in the brain, brain structure, illness, low self esteem, relationship problems, and hormone levels, or a combination of any of those, all can factor into it. You can exercise daily, have a healthy lifestyle, get enough sleep, have a stress free job, friends and someone who loves you and it won't matter, as Anhedonia is a loss of feelings of everything you liked before. Environmental and seasonal can be treated with a change in living conditions. Clinical is something you can have anywhere, at any time, and it might never go away, all depending on how you got it yourself. You can get talk therapy and or medications to help with the symptoms, but no one can talk you out of it, and if you're deep into a dark cloud of depression, wrong thinking is involved where you might think nothing matters or will work. Every mood has its time and release, so anything that keeps mind occupied and distracted, can help, not only short term but longterm. It’s all about changing your nature instincts for flight or fight which can be done by exercises, but it is not a quick fix
August 22, 2025Aug 22 Just now, Hummin said: Every mood has its time and release, so anything that keeps mind occupied and distracted, can help, not only short term but longterm. It’s all about changing your nature instincts for flight or fight which can be done by exercises, but it is not a quick fix Wrong thinking is why so many can't get out of the negativity. When you're down that low, you only care about sleeping, impulsive buying, sex a lot, over exercising, overeating or not eating, self medication with drugs or alcohol, anything to fill that fix, which never lasts. This is why so many sleep during the day, after getting a full nights sleep. It's an escape from life itself. The only way out is to treat the symptoms.
August 22, 2025Aug 22 6 minutes ago, fredwiggy said: Wrong thinking is why so many can't get out of the negativity. When you're down that low, you only care about sleeping, impulsive buying, sex a lot, over exercising, overeating or not eating, self medication with drugs or alcohol, anything to fill that fix, which never lasts. This is why so many sleep during the day, after getting a full nights sleep. It's an escape from life itself. The only way out is to treat the symptoms. Most important for many, is to remove all triggers in life. Some triggers cant be cured no matter how much you try. It is complex, but there is some basic rules that can improve most people. Cultivate negativity is on common behavior to depression and sever depression
August 22, 2025Aug 22 2 minutes ago, Hummin said: Most important for many, is to remove all triggers in life. Some triggers cant be cured no matter how much you try. It is complex, but there is some basic rules that can improve most people. Cultivate negativity is on common behavior to depression and sever depression It's not easy to remove all triggers as many are a part of everyday life. You can be a millionaire living on a tropical island surrounded by hobbies, people who love you and perfect weather and still have depression. My best friend had a great wife, many friends, family close, hobbies, job, house, car, pet dog, enough money to be comfortable, and he used to sleep during the day back in the 70's and early 80's. We thought little about this being young, but in 1987, having all those things, he took his own life. They didn't have the knowledge or medicines available back then like they do now, which likely could have kept him more positive .
August 22, 2025Aug 22 17 minutes ago, fredwiggy said: It's not easy to remove all triggers as many are a part of everyday life. You can be a millionaire living on a tropical island surrounded by hobbies, people who love you and perfect weather and still have depression. My best friend had a great wife, many friends, family close, hobbies, job, house, car, pet dog, enough money to be comfortable, and he used to sleep during the day back in the 70's and early 80's. We thought little about this being young, but in 1987, having all those things, he took his own life. They didn't have the knowledge or medicines available back then like they do now, which likely could have kept him more positive . Again, so many factors, but there is individual solutions if they discover the light, be it religion, or anything that can be a drive in life,
August 22, 2025Aug 22 On 8/21/2025 at 5:32 PM, Harrisfan said: Common in Thailand or less common amongst farangs? Compared to west. What do you think? Endemic in the West. Don't ask me why. I don't get it. It may have to do with the fact that medical doctors in the US get kick-backs on drugs they prescribe to patients, therefore everyone who has "depression" is a source of "Forever Income." Imho, medical doctors should not be allow to make psychological diagnosis's and prescribe drugs. It's a hell of a con. And then try reading the typical Gen Z posts on social media. I've never seen so many "Sad Sacks" in my life. Everybody has a problem, and those problems are never their fault. Everyone else is doing them bad. I see generation of kids who have never learned to take responsibility for their lives and their actions, to say "No" to lousy relationships, and to live on their own terms without blaming the world for their failures - so they call it "Depression" and take a bunch of pills. Do they do that in Thailand? Maybe. But I don't think it has the same effect. All your friends in the US are suppose to enable you with, "Awww poor you!" There are other ways to deal with it in Thailand and Thailand still have closer ties to family that many kids do in the West. I don't think its as much of "a thing" here in Thailand.
August 22, 2025Aug 22 50 minutes ago, connda said: Endemic in the West. Don't ask me why. I don't get it. It may have to do with the fact that medical doctors in the US get kick-backs on drugs they prescribe to patients, therefore everyone who has "depression" is a source of "Forever Income." Imho, medical doctors should not be allow to make psychological diagnosis's and prescribe drugs. It's a hell of a con. And then try reading the typical Gen Z posts on social media. I've never seen so many "Sad Sacks" in my life. Everybody has a problem, and those problems are never their fault. Everyone else is doing them bad. I see generation of kids who have never learned to take responsibility for their lives and their actions, to say "No" to lousy relationships, and to live on their own terms without blaming the world for their failures - so they call it "Depression" and take a bunch of pills. Do they do that in Thailand? Maybe. But I don't think it has the same effect. All your friends in the US are suppose to enable you with, "Awww poor you!" There are other ways to deal with it in Thailand and Thailand still have closer ties to family that many kids do in the West. I don't think its as much of "a thing" here in Thailand. Doctors do not get direct kickbacks from Pharma, as that's illegal. They do get paid to talk about medicines that they think will work. That's still a little unethical, as they're promoting drugs through these seminars. It's a fine line between what's legal or not. Depression can be diagnosed in some individuals that have a temporary sadness, as people will make excuses for anything to get attention, but there are also many that need help that don't seek it out, and these are the ones who take their own lives and people they know don't understand. "He always seemed happy". Like Robin Williams, who used humor to others to express his pain, and to cope with how they are feeling in life. The tears of a clown is one way of seeing the connection between comedians and depression. This link shows the doctor/pharma dealings...........https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC11107028/.
August 23, 2025Aug 23 12 hours ago, fredwiggy said: Doctors do not get direct kickbacks from Pharma, as that's illegal. Perhaps we could say 'doctors 'shouldn't get' direct kickbacks because it's illegal. That said, they are often offered 'incentives.' Change the language and get around the laws. My father (a doctor) was frequently offered 'gifts' from Pharma sales reps.
August 23, 2025Aug 23 1 minute ago, FolkGuitar said: Perhaps we could say 'doctors 'shouldn't get' direct kickbacks because it's illegal. That said, they are often offered 'incentives.' Change the language and get around the laws. My father (a doctor) was frequently offered 'gifts' from Pharma sales reps. Yes, that's how they get around what's illegal. Paying for seminars promoting drugs, accepting gifts and other ways around the laws.
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