4 minutes ago, Jack Hammer said:

Is that his wife Sudarat, on the second row, on the far right 

The story has more holes than a sieve

This guy was a real Savage, Hammer, especially when exercising his matrimonial perogative...

20 hours ago, Mark1969 said:

 

Notice how the "farang" is the only one without a shirt. Odd man out who does not fit in.

 

I always thought there was something weird about relatives walking around shirtless around other family members. It just does not feel right. I can see younger female family members being uncomfortable with it.

There is nobody who hates guys being shirtless in public more than me, but there is nothing wrong with being shirtless on their own property.

All those assets and presumably big bank balances to go with it and they are hard up for GBP34k to pay lawyers fees?

 

Hard to get a sense of what actually happened but it sounds like the wife was off doing her own thing disputing boundaries and fighting legal battles while he was blissfully in ignorance or just happy to let her get on with it.

 

The trouble is, Thai wives are often short of basic intelligence and are gullible to the extreme. They do such stupid things.

 

So many things that could be said about what he should and shouldn’t have done vis a vis assets and financial arrangements with his wife. No point to repeat them, we all know what they are.

29 minutes ago, Brayka said:

Sad,…..but I can understand that his wife is in immo active …she had to known better in the first place and second why she lent money while they have enough??

 dont even try to put your brain into a thai woman. maybe she not wants him to know etc.

 

 she can do what she wants with her property , foreigners have no rights whatever in Lieland.

 

But its okay for me, i know this and act accordingly. Some do not and have to live with consequences , which can be costly. very costly.

21 hours ago, lordgrinz said:

 

I've been working on that, with family and friends to help her find a lawyer and navigate probate. But in some cases, at least the larger accounts, she is already a beneficiary on those accounts. No more land or house to worry about, sold those and added the money to existing accounts. The biggest problem is that in the USA, she isn't able to get SS benefits after I die, that requires 5 years of us living together in the US. Not sure they would even continue paying her if she decided to leave and go back to Thailand after staying there 5 years, or not, it would be like 120,000 baht per month though......so that would suck if she can't get that.

My brother lived in Thailand for 30 years. He died and his Thai wife was entitled to a green card. She stayed with us for a while in USA.  She is receiving widow benefits from Social security also. Recheck with social security about survivor benefits. I think she would be eligible.  Green card holders must stay in USA for 6 months per year to remain eligible. Good luck 

8 minutes ago, NoshowJones said:

There is nobody who hates guys being shirtless in public more than me, but there is nothing wrong with being shirtless on their own property.

Can he walk around naked with an erection too? We call him the beanpole.

37 minutes ago, ronster said:

What ?? 🤔

Borrowing money against something you own is illegal or was it because it was the building subject to land border dispute ?

She borrowed money for legal issues and somehow lost an apartment building from that ? How ?

They lost their house and 3 plots of land ? How ?

His pension dropped from £38k a year to £1200 a year ? How ??

More how's than a native American Indian festival 😳🙈

The article doesn’t say it, but I assume she gave the chanote for the building as security for the loan. Then she didn’t pay the interest and the guy sold the moneylender took the chanote and sold the 1.2 million building for only 45k, obviously to an affiliated party. So the money lender got a 1.2 million building for only 34k.

 

i really don’t understand where the illegality of the wife’s actions come in. Although they were out of jail in 8 days so maybe it wasn’t illegal and the jailing was a warning not to kick up a fuss.

 

I think this is a story that will make no sense to a farang, even if we had the full facts

Just now, zookerman said:

My brother lived in Thailand for 30 years. He died and his Thai wife was entitled to a green card. She stayed with us for a while in USA.  She is receiving widow benefits from Social security also. Recheck with social security about survivor benefits. I think she would be eligible.  Green card holders must stay in USA for 6 months per year to remain eligible. Good luck 

 

From what I read, a wife must at some point live together at the same address with you (in the USA) for at least 5 years (total - not consecutive ) before being eligible for SS survivor benefits.

The picture says it all. A conspiracy. This kind of thing goes on all the time in Thailand. The wife's actions will likely have been taken as a result of pressure on her from her relatives. This story simply confirms that foreigners should never invest more in Thailand than they can afford to lose.

Well, one could say they've been 'savaged' by Thai 'systems'. I agree with many here that there are significant details missing, therefore I won't dive in with opinions that are really unqualified. Whether she set him up, or is a joint victim, who knows? The message I take from this is: If you're in your mid-sixties, have worked hard and accumulated some wealth and decide to move to Thailand with a Thai wife, leave a chunk of the money at home and be prepared to give the rest away. Your old, you move here for a quiet life, an easy life. Don't be tempted to go out and make more money than you'll ever need in the years you may have left. I went for breakfast with some expats the other morning, three in the small group had experienced a heart attack either in their late 60s or early 70s. None of them were overweight with a couple of them being 'fit' cyclists. Anytime folks, our number will be up. I own nothing here in Thailand. Everything is in my wife's name so when I pop my clogs, there are no issues. The chunk of money in Australia is in my name and is covered by a Will in that country. My kids need nothing from me as they both earn good money in their own careers, e.g. my daughter is a geoscientist, at 26, on a package of $AU 165,000/yr. My wife is an Aussie permanent resident and speaks good English with a degree in tourism management and business. We were married in Australia, where we met, in 2019 and only moved to Thailand this year, at my suggestion. But always be vigilant, be a good judge of character, and never walk around without a shirt on. Me? I hate being around her family in a singlet, let alone topless. Who wants to look at a saggy barrel chest? 555  

When I came to Thailand 20 years ago i

spent a year prior looking at the risks involved I decided that I would take the gamble that the monies made on the sale of my UK property I would risk thankfully everything worked out fine my first property I sold at a good profit enabling me to build two separate properties however as I write I am well aware that it could all come crashing down with the click of a finger thankfully it would not leave me destitute and I would of course be upset but at the same time be grateful that I’ve enjoyed 20 good years and let’s face it there are no pockets in shrouds . Everyone who invests in Thailand do so at their own risk you only have to see that the government have already closed down more than a 1,000 weed shops this year someone once said to me never trust a Thai when it comes to money matters it appears this gentleman allowed his other half to take very big risks !

 

Now he's gonna gave to use the agent for his extension, cough

You can retire in Thailand without risk as long as you don't invest here and keep your money elsewhere.

I think this article was written by his wife's family. 

25 minutes ago, doily19 said:

Well, one could say they've been 'savaged' by Thai 'systems'. I agree with many here that there are significant details missing, therefore I won't dive in with opinions that are really unqualified. Whether she set him up, or is a joint victim, who knows? The message I take from this is: If you're in your mid-sixties, have worked hard and accumulated some wealth and decide to move to Thailand with a Thai wife, leave a chunk of the money at home and be prepared to give the rest away. Your old, you move here for a quiet life, an easy life. Don't be tempted to go out and make more money than you'll ever need in the years you may have left. I went for breakfast with some expats the other morning, three in the small group had experienced a heart attack either in their late 60s or early 70s. None of them were overweight with a couple of them being 'fit' cyclists. Anytime folks, our number will be up. I own nothing here in Thailand. Everything is in my wife's name so when I pop my clogs, there are no issues. The chunk of money in Australia is in my name and is covered by a Will in that country. My kids need nothing from me as they both earn good money in their own careers, e.g. my daughter is a geoscientist, at 26, on a package of $AU 165,000/yr. My wife is an Aussie permanent resident and speaks good English with a degree in tourism management and business. We were married in Australia, where we met, in 2019 and only moved to Thailand this year, at my suggestion. But always be vigilant, be a good judge of character, and never walk around without a shirt on. Me? I hate being around her family in a singlet, let alone topless. Who wants to look at a saggy barrel chest? 555  

Well said.

He could always flog that gold chain 

1 hour ago, hotchilli said:

Rent in Thailand... buying property is asking for trouble

 I travelled to Thailand and back three times after meeting my future wife and buying her house, it was already half built when I met her.

During these times I met and made friends with Farangs of different nationalities.

 

I had a choice, many of these friends had houses built and put in their wife's name. My then girlfriend is beautiful, comes from a good family, is very well educated with university/college degrees after being in full time education till she was 23 years old.

 

My choice was staying the rest of my life in the UK with no chance of meeting a girl with any of these attributes.

 

I have had twenty years of happy marriage now, was I just lucky? After very much thought, and being only a working class guy  after being a professional musician, a private investigator and truck driver, I sold my house in the UK and well, you know the rest.

4 minutes ago, NoshowJones said:

 I travelled to Thailand and back three times after meeting my future wife and buying her house, it was already half built when I met her.

During these times I met and made friends with Farangs of different nationalities.

 

I had a choice, many of these friends had houses built and put in their wife's name. My then girlfriend is beautiful, comes from a good family, is very well educated with university/college degrees after being in full time education till she was 23 years old.

 

My choice was staying the rest of my life in the UK with no chance of meeting a girl with any of these attributes.

 

I have had twenty years of happy marriage now, was I just lucky? After very much thought, and being only a working class guy  after being a professional musician, a private investigator and truck driver, I sold my house in the UK and well, you know the rest.

Why is there no chance of you meeting someone like that in the UK?

3 minutes ago, Mark1969 said:

Why is there no chance of you meeting someone like that in the UK?

You Mean you don't know?

 

23 hours ago, BritManToo said:

Best not to invest more than you can afford to lose.

Putting all your money in someone else's name is probably a bad idea.

I was told that when I first visited the P.I. . Never invest more than you can walk away from. It's good advice.

If you own assets to the value of this couple you need to use a very proper legal firm to oversee all contracts pertaining to them, and make sure you hold the Chanote's in a secure place.

22 hours ago, proton said:

No way that house is worth 270k, more like 70k

 

The price is possible if the land and house is in Pattaya.  

 

They donot say where it is but I am sure there are plots that are worth a considerable amount They do not show the house he lost or any of the property  but 11.7 mill is not out of the realm of possible.

 

The challenge is that a lot of Thais think they know better and are willing to trust other thais and ot tal to their partners.

There is probably a lot more to this story than is revealed in the article.

 

This case is allegedly 15 years old, beginning in 2010.

 

It is inconceivable that a sane person would use a GBP 1.2 million property as security on a money-lender's loan of GBP 34,000.

 

Note the denomination of the loan as GBP, whereas Thai money lenders usually lend Baht.

 

If the loan was actually GBP it implies the money was for use in a UK legal dispute, and is not very much at all for Western lawyers who would normally demand an upfront deposit of GBP 100,000.

 

If this couple had to resort to a money lender for a loan, they were already in trouble when they received the loan in 2010.

3 minutes ago, kingstonkid said:

 

The price is possible if the land and house is in Pattaya.  

 

They donot say where it is but I am sure there are plots that are worth a considerable amount They do not show the house he lost or any of the property  but 11.7 mill is not out of the realm of possible.

 

The challenge is that a lot of Thais think they know better and are willing to trust other thais and ot tal to their partners.

 

House is in Ubon

Seems she ate him for lunch !

8 minutes ago, proton said:

 

House is in Ubon

Did not see that mentioned sorry.  

When you let a Thai lady ( wife ) get involved with money 💰 🤑 

They think they know better  ways to improve their wealth 

Unfortunately greed probably plays a part in this story plus getting scammed 

I have sympathy for the guy learning the hard way of doing  business

in Thailand 😱

23 hours ago, Mark1969 said:

Yeah, there's always this weird BS here about people knowing each other who you don't think do. You could look at the neighbor as well and how they knew the wife and history of the land.

They say it started with a boundary dispute, how come? All boundaries are recorded and officially stamped at the local government land office. They wouldn't have been able to register the land if it encroached of another person's.

His wife is in the property business. Seems she did some shady work herself and came back to bite them.