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Plan-B: Oh, Canada! Eh?

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Dear Folks,

 

Although we all know that Thailand is probably the best place for life as we know it….

And, even though Thailand is probably the best place available in SE Asia for Retirement…

 

My question is:

 

What might we do if we begin to experience JUST TOO MANY Flies in the Ointment, as time goes by, while pursuing our Thailand dream?

 

As an American, I have suddenly become fixated on imagining, or reimagining, my retirement, what is left of it, somewhere in Northern Ontario, or maybe even Nova Scotia.

 

How many here have also wondered about such a plan.

 

We all recall the Vietnam War, when so many Americans fled the land of Tricky Dic’s presidency.  And, we know that many of these draft-dodgers actually stayed there. Probably a few were part of the group so-called Hippies.

 

But we are not hippies.

Instead, we are just trying to live out the rest of our days  in peace and quiet, attempting not to be bothered by all the negative garbage which has resulted from the HUMONGOUS change in American Culture, and American Society, since the late 1960s.

 

I, for one, began leaving America back in the year 1971.  And, by 1979, I had almost completely completed my move to East Asia, which turned out to be a very good thing for me, culturally speaking.

 

Now though, East Asia has changed since the days of cheap women, low-cost housing, and a more pure Asian cultural experience.  Yes, folks, East Asia, and SE Asia, too, has become incredibly tainted by western and American culture that it’s almost not even worth living here, just to find something different from THE WEST.

 

So then I ask myself what is the point?

 

What is the point in being in East Asia or SE Asia if this total region has already become 99.99-percent westernized?  Even the food has become mucked up by Burger King, and Burger King clones.

 

And I am sitting here wondering just how I might pull off a move to Canada.

 

Would I try to find a nice Chinese or Thai girl in Canada, one with Canadian citizenship, to marry?  I think not.

 

I must think of another way, obviously.

 

Where in Canada might be best for me???

 

I LOVE birds.

I like quiet places without heavy trucks driving by my house, and I HATE motorcycles buzzing me, morning, noon, night, and in the wee hours, too.

 

I need FAST cheap internet.

And, I cannot live cut off from the luxuries of civilization, such as dental care, and food.

I also hate driving cars.

 

I recall a story about Stephen King who moved to a quiet place in Maine, I think. I bet it might be nice if I could duplicate such an environment as he enjoys…but in Canada.

 

Therefore:  WHAT TO DO?  And….

 

What would YOU do if you were to choose Canada?

 

Would I even be happy in Canada after over 50 years in East Asia (and SE Asia)???

 

We truly need to consider such questions, not knowing what might befall us in the near and uncertain future.

 

It’s always good to have a VIABLE Plan B….And….no way I would even consider the Philapppines, since I too often cannot even spell it.

 

Best regards,

Gamma

 (I might even change my name if I moved to Canada.)


 

Important Note: In Canada, I might not need to worry overly much about Air Conditioners, and AC failure rates.

 

In addition: Since I now hate to fly on the new air services being provided by modern airline companies, I wonder if there might be a tramp steamer. I could take along all my cargo when I move to Canada.

 

 

 

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    It truly seems like a vibrant paradise full of diversity.

  • cjinchiangrai
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    Vancouver with all of the Chinese. 

  • No retirement visa in Canada. Forget about it. If you want a cold place where you can actually get permanent residence look elsewhere.

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You seem to be a real cool cat so the weather should be nice for you. Here is January in Ontario, it should make you happy that December and February will be the same. 

 

January is typically the coldest month in Ontario. And when we say cold, we mean it. The temperature tops out at around -13℃ during the day, falling away to -21℃ at night. The UV index will be low at this time of year, so not something to worry about.

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I know that some might say that Ontario is too cold in winters.

But then, what about Nova Scotia?

I am considering NS.

 

Isn't Nova Scotia supposed to have some sort of maritime culture?

I mean, a maritime culture similar to places like the southern stretch of Thailand.

 

1 minute ago, GammaGlobulin said:

I know that some might say that Ontario is too cold in winters.

But then, what about Nova Scotia?

I am considering NS.

 

Isn't Nova Scotia supposed to have some sort of maritime culture?

I mean, a maritime culture similar to places like the southern stretch of Thailand.

 

More like Maine, lobster and cod fishing. If you want solitude, there is a lot of it available.

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1 hour ago, cjinchiangrai said:

More like Maine, lobster and cod fishing. If you want solitude, there is a lot of it available.

 

One can eat only so much lobster.

 

More importantly, parts of Maine, in the northern region, get HUGE amounts of snow, and one might not even be able to believe one's eyes, driving through those parts of Maine in the winters.

 

Crucially, Maine has changed a lot, culturally, since the 1960s.

There has been a tremendous influx of trash coming into Maine, which has completely changed the cultural vibe.

I doubt I could hack that.

 

Still, if I could find a suitable enclave, an unspoiled haven in Maine, then it might be worth considering...except...

I have heard the property values have gone through the roof, since the 1960s, and far more than Canada, I would think.

 

Cod fishing sounds OK, but would you not require a license?

And, how easy are they to catch?

I thought the cod population plummeted...BIG TIME, some years ago.

 

I am not saying, unequivocally, that Maine might not be as good as, or better than Nova Scotia.

I just have not yet investigated Maine as an option, thinking it might not be so practical a choice for me.

After all....

I LIKE Friendly people, and probably the Canadians in Nova Scotia are friendlier...but...not so sure.

I have no direct experience. 

 

 

No retirement visa in Canada.

Forget about it.

If you want a cold place where you can actually get permanent residence look elsewhere.

1 hour ago, GammaGlobulin said:

 

Dear Folks,

 

Although we all know that Thailand is probably the best place for life as we know it….

And, even though Thailand is probably the best place available in SE Asia for Retirement…

 

My question is:

 

What might we do if we begin to experience JUST TOO MANY Flies in the Ointment, as time goes by, while pursuing our Thailand dream?

 

As an American, I have suddenly become fixated on imagining, or reimagining, my retirement, what is left of it, somewhere in Northern Ontario, or maybe even Nova Scotia.

 

How many here have also wondered about such a plan.

 

We all recall the Vietnam War, when so many Americans fled the land of Tricky Dic’s presidency.  And, we know that many of these draft-dodgers actually stayed there. Probably a few were part of the group so-called Hippies.

 

But we are not hippies.

Instead, we are just trying to live out the rest of our days  in peace and quiet, attempting not to be bothered by all the negative garbage which has resulted from the HUMONGOUS change in American Culture, and American Society, since the late 1960s.

 

I, for one, began leaving America back in the year 1971.  And, by 1979, I had almost completely completed my move to East Asia, which turned out to be a very good thing for me, culturally speaking.

 

Now though, East Asia has changed since the days of cheap women, low-cost housing, and a more pure Asian cultural experience.  Yes, folks, East Asia, and SE Asia, too, has become incredibly tainted by western and American culture that it’s almost not even worth living here, just to find something different from THE WEST.

 

So then I ask myself what is the point?

 

What is the point in being in East Asia or SE Asia if this total region has already become 99.99-percent westernized?  Even the food has become mucked up by Burger King, and Burger King clones.

 

And I am sitting here wondering just how I might pull off a move to Canada.

 

Would I try to find a nice Chinese or Thai girl in Canada, one with Canadian citizenship, to marry?  I think not.

 

I must think of another way, obviously.

 

Where in Canada might be best for me???

 

I LOVE birds.

I like quiet places without heavy trucks driving by my house, and I HATE motorcycles buzzing me, morning, noon, night, and in the wee hours, too.

 

I need FAST cheap internet.

And, I cannot live cut off from the luxuries of civilization, such as dental care, and food.

I also hate driving cars.

 

I recall a story about Stephen King who moved to a quiet place in Maine, I think. I bet it might be nice if I could duplicate such an environment as he enjoys…but in Canada.

 

Therefore:  WHAT TO DO?  And….

 

What would YOU do if you were to choose Canada?

 

Would I even be happy in Canada after over 50 years in East Asia (and SE Asia)???

 

We truly need to consider such questions, not knowing what might befall us in the near and uncertain future.

 

It’s always good to have a VIABLE Plan B….And….no way I would even consider the Philapppines, since I too often cannot even spell it.

 

Best regards,

Gamma

 (I might even change my name if I moved to Canada.)


 

Important Note: In Canada, I might not need to worry overly much about Air Conditioners, and AC failure rates.

 

In addition: Since I now hate to fly on the new air services being provided by modern airline companies, I wonder if there might be a tramp steamer. I could take along all my cargo when I move to Canada.

 

 

 

Canada is a nice country and the people are nice but it gets cold in the winter and it is expensive especially when you compare it to Thailand. BC is the nicest part of Canada, I was 6 months in Alberta and even the Canadians say it is boring.

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6 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

No retirement visa in Canada.

Forget about it.

If you want a cold place where you can actually get permanent residence look elsewhere.

 

For an American?

Is there really no way?

Nova Scotia would be a good choice.

Or, perhaps places not far from northwestern Maine.

I have been there, and it's quite nice.

NS, I have not yet traveled to.

 

As you are always, and rightly, telling almost anyone who will listen on this forum...

Everybody needs a Plan-B, no matter what might be one's present situation.

 

3 minutes ago, GammaGlobulin said:

 

For an American?

Is there really no way?

Nova Scotia would be a good choice.

Or, perhaps places not far from northwestern Maine.

I have been there, and it's quite nice.

NS, I have not yet traveled to.

 

As you are always, and rightly, telling almost anyone who will listen on this forum...

Everybody needs a Plan-B, no matter what might be one's present situation.

 

There is no way to move there just based on retirement.

If you're younger and have skills, you could qualify on merit points.

I'm not sure about marriage options.

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15 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

There is no way to move there just based on retirement.

If you're younger and have skills, you could qualify on merit points.

I'm not sure about marriage options.

 

50 years ago, it was easy as pie.

You just drive across.

I drove across several times, from either New Hampshire or Vermont...I forget.

When you returned, nobody asked no questions.

 

I even carried 5 high-power rifles, plus my muzzle-loader, across the border in my trunk.

But, since carrying across rifles without some sort of paperwork...

The border guys just stored the rifles for me, and I picked them back up, on the return journey.

 

Nobody knew or cared how many days/years you had been staying in Canada.....then....

2 hours ago, GammaGlobulin said:

 

Dear Folks,

 

Although we all know that Thailand is probably the best place for life as we know it….

And, even though Thailand is probably the best place available in SE Asia for Retirement…

 

My question is:

 

What might we do if we begin to experience JUST TOO MANY Flies in the Ointment, as time goes by, while pursuing our Thailand dream?

 

As an American, I have suddenly become fixated on imagining, or reimagining, my retirement, what is left of it, somewhere in Northern Ontario, or maybe even Nova Scotia.

 

How many here have also wondered about such a plan.

 

We all recall the Vietnam War, when so many Americans fled the land of Tricky Dic’s presidency.  And, we know that many of these draft-dodgers actually stayed there. Probably a few were part of the group so-called Hippies.

 

But we are not hippies.

Instead, we are just trying to live out the rest of our days  in peace and quiet, attempting not to be bothered by all the negative garbage which has resulted from the HUMONGOUS change in American Culture, and American Society, since the late 1960s.

 

I, for one, began leaving America back in the year 1971.  And, by 1979, I had almost completely completed my move to East Asia, which turned out to be a very good thing for me, culturally speaking.

 

Now though, East Asia has changed since the days of cheap women, low-cost housing, and a more pure Asian cultural experience.  Yes, folks, East Asia, and SE Asia, too, has become incredibly tainted by western and American culture that it’s almost not even worth living here, just to find something different from THE WEST.

 

So then I ask myself what is the point?

 

What is the point in being in East Asia or SE Asia if this total region has already become 99.99-percent westernized?  Even the food has become mucked up by Burger King, and Burger King clones.

 

And I am sitting here wondering just how I might pull off a move to Canada.

 

Would I try to find a nice Chinese or Thai girl in Canada, one with Canadian citizenship, to marry?  I think not.

 

I must think of another way, obviously.

 

Where in Canada might be best for me???

 

I LOVE birds.

I like quiet places without heavy trucks driving by my house, and I HATE motorcycles buzzing me, morning, noon, night, and in the wee hours, too.

 

I need FAST cheap internet.

And, I cannot live cut off from the luxuries of civilization, such as dental care, and food.

I also hate driving cars.

 

I recall a story about Stephen King who moved to a quiet place in Maine, I think. I bet it might be nice if I could duplicate such an environment as he enjoys…but in Canada.

 

Therefore:  WHAT TO DO?  And….

 

What would YOU do if you were to choose Canada?

 

Would I even be happy in Canada after over 50 years in East Asia (and SE Asia)???

 

We truly need to consider such questions, not knowing what might befall us in the near and uncertain future.

 

It’s always good to have a VIABLE Plan B….And….no way I would even consider the Philapppines, since I too often cannot even spell it.

 

Best regards,

Gamma

 (I might even change my name if I moved to Canada.)


 

Important Note: In Canada, I might not need to worry overly much about Air Conditioners, and AC failure rates.

 

In addition: Since I now hate to fly on the new air services being provided by modern airline companies, I wonder if there might be a tramp steamer. I could take along all my cargo when I move to Canada.

 

 

 

What are you babbling about?

 

The women are still cheap, the housing is still low cost. I can't remember the last time I bought KFC or McDonald's.

 

I just mix and match the culture to suit myself.

 

Having lived in Calgary for a month in summer, I can't imagine what winter would be like.

 

Plan B is a motor home in Australia, with lots of noodles.

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2 minutes ago, Lacessit said:

What are you babbling about?

 

The women are still cheap, the housing is still low cost. I can't remember the last time I bought KFC or McDonald's.

 

I am not saying that Thailand is not the BEST option in the world.

I know it is the best.

But, this is about some VALID Plan-B.

 

I could always return to McGill, I suppose.

 

29 minutes ago, GammaGlobulin said:

 

I am not saying that Thailand is not the BEST option in the world.

I know it is the best.

But, this is about some VALID Plan-B.

 

I could always return to McGill, I suppose.

 

As a professor? In that case you could probably get a work visa.

If you want a developed richer country like Canada for retirement here are some somewhat similar options that do have retirement options (if you've got the money). Not necessarily retirement visas but visa options leading to residency that do the same thing.

 

Ireland

Australia

New Zealand

France

Malta

Spain

Uruguay

Chile

 

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Of course:

 

It is definitely NOT the case that I am NOT planning to die here in Thailand.

However, my eventual death could take many years to materialize.

 

This is why, as it has been said here, a Plan-B must be considered.

And, other than Thailand, no other country in these parts seems to be a viable alternative to Thailand.

Moving to some continuous country would be a total let-down.

 

However, some place like Canada is a move that I might be able to get me head around.

There is always a way.

 

The first question is where in Canada, I think.

 

Someone mentioned Maine as the next best thing to Canada...

But, then where in Maine might be most livable, and more like what I recall from my times in Canada?

 

I think places left in Maine that are as nice as I recall must be as scarce as hen's teeth.

Sure, there are places, but they cost 20-times more than what they cost in the 60s.

 

Due to housing prices in the USA, almost nobody lives well....

Or, they end up living cheek-by-jowl, sharing a house, or something...even if they have a decent income,

Even internet moguls.

 

Gone are the days when you could get a nice plot with a decent house, for peanuts.

 

 

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7 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

(if you've got the money):

 

Anyplace, almost, is OK if you have unlimited financial resources.

But, who does?

One must choose realistically.

And, since Europe is doomed, I would never go to France.

I think I might not like the culture of NZ or Australia, just personal choice.

This is why I think Canada might, truly, be the best, if I do not succumb while here where I am.

 

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11 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

As a professor? In that case you could probably get a work visa

 

I will never work again, in a formal setting.

I am no spring chicken, you know.

 

Way too chilly half the year, and that dips down too far into the USA.  Or I may have retired in the hills, above and away from  'tornado alley'.

 

All USA options considered ... and nope, out of there :coffee1:

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36 minutes ago, KhunLA said:

Way too chilly half the year, and that dips down too far into the USA.  Or I may have retired in the hills, above and away from  'tornado alley'.

 

All USA options considered ... and nope, out of there :coffee1:

 

Who would want to live near tornado (please read hurricane) alley with all those ne'er-do-wells existing sub-standard lives in Immokalee...

Not to mention the alligators and moccasins.

 

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So, this is another reason to live in Thailand, southern Thailand, because, unlike Florida or Taiwan, very few typhoons or hurricanes bother one.

 

Also, Canada.

Not many typhoons or hurricanes in Canada.

 

20 minutes ago, GammaGlobulin said:

 

Who would want to live near tornado (please read hurricane) alley with all those ne'er-do-wells existing sub-standard lives in Immokalee...

Not to mention the alligators and moccasins.

 

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So, this is another reason to live in Thailand, southern Thailand, because, unlike Florida or Taiwan, very few typhoons or hurricanes bother one.

 

Also, Canada.

Not many typhoons or hurricanes in Canada.

 

Posted this before ... and yea, USA has a few 'weather issues' ...

 

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1 hour ago, GammaGlobulin said:

 

 

I think I might not like the culture of NZ or Australia, just personal choice.

 

 

Someone who is up themself, concerning their intelligence, will not do well in Australia.

 

In NZ, you would have to learn a new English language. They have interchangeable vowels.

 

 

It’s sht pretty much anywhere in the west regards government sticking their nose in. Why not just stick to the US? WHO cares who runs it, you could hole up pretty much anywhere and shut yourself off from the rest of the world. Canada is nice but who wants those winters!

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33 minutes ago, Lacessit said:

Someone who is up themself, concerning their intelligence, will not do well in Australia.

 

In NZ, you would have to learn a new English language. They have interchangeable vowels.

 

 

 

Maybe, but no voles in New Zealand.

 

I think I might not fit in very well in NZ.

It's a natural paradise, for sure.

But, after a while, one becomes habituated to the scenery, and then one begins to examine the local inhabitants, too closely, is my guess.

 

I fit in much better in places like Canada and Thailand.

 

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26 minutes ago, daveAustin said:

It’s sht pretty much anywhere in the west regards government sticking their nose in. Why not just stick to the US? WHO cares who runs it, you could hole up pretty much anywhere and shut yourself off from the rest of the world. Canada is nice but who wants those winters!

 

In Maine, my peace of mind would be disturbed by young skimobilers.

These guys think they own the woods.

And they create havoc in too many ways.

 

No.

My idea is better, to live in a cabin, say Laskay, Ontario, maybe with the likes of Jill and Ellen.

I am sure that you know the 1967, which was always one of my favorites, when I was a teen.

 

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The cabin in that film was to die for.

I have never forgotten the beauty of the film.

 

Honestly speaking, if I could find a cabin and location and environment such as the one enjoyed by Jill and Ellen, then I would consider leaving for Canada tomorrow, provided I could sort the visa issue.

 

I think the visa issue might be easier to solve than some might think.

Just my suspicion.

Maybe some sort of ED Visa...because....Canada does not discriminate according to age.

 

 

46 minutes ago, Lacessit said:

Someone who is up themself, concerning their intelligence, will not do well in Australia.

Is that why you left?

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2 minutes ago, blaze master said:

Give me your best marriage proposal and ill consider sponsorship. 😅

 

I guess you have watched the film...THE FOX...then....

 

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5 minutes ago, blaze master said:

Give me your best marriage proposal and ill consider sponsorship. 😅

 

By the way...

 

About a year ago, I did check with McGill....and......

 

I am welcome to return, anytime I wish....just as long as I am...

Still breathing.

 

This is TRUE, actually.....

 

So then...there is that...!!!

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