Looking into history, it's easy to find how high profile violent events such as the assassination of Kirk have been used by authoritarian regimes to accelerate extremist agendas. Watch out for that happening again.

1 minute ago, Jingthing said:

Looking into history, it's easy to find how high profile violent events such as the assassination of Kirk have been used by authoritarian regimes to accelerate extremist agendas. Watch out for that happening again.

Sure seems to be the case here apparently they are whitewashing the guy,very little concern for the guys family and kids but lots and lots of finger pointing and blamstorming attacking others and groups it’s so obvious sometimes I think it may have been planned (that’s wayyy out there) the planned comment but I wouldn’t put it past some of them.

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Thank you.

1 hour ago, Evil Penevil said:

 

Charlie Kirk certainly had outspoken opinions, some of them controversial, but there was no element of hate in them.  He had a traditional conservative Christian take on moral matters, but that's not the same as hate speech.  The list you quoted is misleading to the point it is false on several points.

Take the first one.  Kirk never expressed support for the stoning of gay people.  In response to a video of a woman who quoted the Biblical verse on "Love thy neighbor" as her reason for observing Pride Month, Kirk responded by citing a Bible verse that called for the execution  of men who lie "with a male as with a woman."  He was explaining the Bible does not support homosexuality,  He wasn't advocating the stoning of gay people.  See for yourself. 

 

 

 

https://x.com/patriottakes/status/1800678317030564306

 

I'm not going to go through the entire list.  Whoever compiled that list simply put their own interpretation on statements Kirk made.  In any case, none of it is hate speech, just positions with which liberals don't agree.

 

If you want examples of real hate speech,  read some of the comments on Jews and Israel on this board.  

 

 

Incompetency, like beauty and pornography, is very much in the eye of the beholder.  It's a subjective opinion in most cases, although there are occupations which have objective standards for competency.

 

So to summarize, when democrats do it then it's hateful rhetoric, but when republicans do it then it's 'outspoken opinions'.

 

 

Charlie Kirk was a strong supporter of Israel, especially in its war with Hamas.  At the same time, he was critical of left-wing, progressive U.S. Jews and some of his statements about them were clumsy and ill-considered.   He got in over his head a few times and said things that sounded antisemitic.

2 minutes ago, Evil Penevil said:

he was critical of left-wing, progressive U.S. Jews and some of his statements about them were clumsy and ill-considered. 

But not antisemitic, since a most left wing "progressive" jews arent jews, they are progressives

4 minutes ago, shdmn said:

So to summarize, when democrats do it then it's hateful rhetoric, but when republicans do it then it's 'outspoken opinions'.

 

 No, not at all.  Hate speech is not a matter of right or left politics, but hangs on the content and formulation of the statements.  There can be hate speech from adherents of both the left and right, depending on what they say.

1 hour ago, Tug said:

Yeiks!really?someone else said he wanted someone to post bail for the nutter that attacked pelosis husband with a hammer.kinda sounds like this dude was as hateful and divisive as the lowest level of trumpdom.personally I don’t know because I don’t listen to that kind of hate speech.are they trying to whitewash this guys history?

Thats why he deserved to die, right?

MAGA after they found out the person of interest appears to be a white male.

 

 

1 minute ago, shdmn said:

MAGA after they found out the shooter was a white male.

Are you accusing MAGA of racism?

 

Can you back your post up with facts, or are you just being a hateful troll to show further disrespect to a murdered patriot.

14 minutes ago, shdmn said:

MAGA after they found out the person of interest appears to be a white male.

 

 

That is an interesting take.

 

In reality, many of Kirk's opinions on social issues would find large numbers of supporters in the "black and brown" community. They are more conservative than many on the tone-deaf left would care to admit. 

On another front, I have been rather shocked and dismayed at the hate shown to Charlie on social media by educators and medical personnel.  My God, if this is how they react to a brutal murder, how can anyone trust them to administer care or teach students without their malevolent bias interfering? 

14 minutes ago, Tug said:

I dono I never said that nor implied it are you doing your hysterical assuming again?

Im not the one hysterical. Im watching the Socialists destroy themselves.

You guys made charlie kirk a martyr and his influence is stronger in his death than alive. You guys just cant do anything right for yourselves. And still focused on trump no less. No ones gonna vote for you in 2028

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2 minutes ago, Yagoda said:

Lazar Kaganovich? Bernie Sanders? 

I don’t know the first guy but in Bernie’s case seems to me that he doesn’t like seeing civilians herded around with bombs and starved……and don’t get hysterical and try to conflate that with supporting hammas .

 

3 minutes ago, Yagoda said:

Im not the one hysterical. Im watching the Socialists destroy themselves.

Your nonsense about Bernie says otherwise.

5 minutes ago, TedG said:

Friends don't let friends be progressives. 

Progressivism is its own religion, with sub cults such as Transgenderism, Atheism, Climatism,.....

2 minutes ago, Tug said:

I don’t know the first guy

 

2 minutes ago, Tug said:

seems to me

Says a lot LOL

10 minutes ago, Hanaguma said:

On another front, I have been rather shocked and dismayed at the hate shown to Charlie on social media by educators and medical personnel.  My God, if this is how they react to a brutal murder, how can anyone trust them to administer care or teach students without their malevolent bias interfering? 

I'm not surprised.  I've been on political forums for decades.  This is how many people from the party of tolerance behave. 

More anonymous cowards republicans expressing 'outspoken opinions'.

 

https://abcnews.go.com/US/multiple-hbcus-lockdown-after-receiving-threats-amid-rising/story?id=125483504

 

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Multiple historically Black colleges and universities (HBCUs) are on lockdown after receiving potential threats on Thursday, including Alabama State University, Virginia State University, Hampton University in Virginia, Southern University in Louisiana, and Clark Atlanta University in Georgia.

 

If the perp is going to be caught, authorities must be ready to turn over every stone. I’m not sure there are still any true professionals in the FBI, people who will consider any and all possibilities. The "loyalty test" drove out many who thought the Constitution, not an individual, is the law of the land.

 

For example, after the recent school shooting, comments were made about banning trans people from gun ownership. Those most outraged by that idea were not trans people, but 2nd Amendment types, who see any restriction as an attack on what they view as the most important Amendment in the Constitution. Message boards favored by the gun community should be checked for comments suggesting violence against anyone suggesting any ban on gun ownership, even trans ownership. Check them out yourself. Gun rights types were apoplectic.

 

The gunman was no casual gun owner. The shot wasn’t from a great distance (130 meters), but Kirk was under a covering and moving irregularly in order to address a crowd who sat almost circular to him.

 

The obvious answer is that the perp is a progressive, but the obvious answer isn’t always the correct one.

2 hours ago, Jingthing said:

Looking into history, it's easy to find how high profile violent events such as the assassination of Kirk have been used by authoritarian regimes to accelerate extremist agendas. Watch out for that happening again.

White man is assassinated, no looting, no neighborhoods burning down. A drug addicted, felon like Floyd dies and the Blacks burned and looted for months across the country.

 

Liberals of today are like children who shouldn't  be left alone. 

2 minutes ago, EVENKEEL said:

White man is assassinated, no looting, no neighborhoods burning down. A drug addicted, felon like Floyd dies and the Blacks burned and looted for months across the country.

 

Liberals of today are like children who shouldn't  be left alone. 

 

If you can't see the difference between a person being killed by the police with an obvious racial element, and an assassination, there really is no hope for you.

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Firstly, I must say that this is a horrible crime that must be condemned. As someone whose views are mostly opposite or almost opposite Kirk's, I am saying this. Also, I am upset and angry at the joy many on the left seem to be feeling due to his murder. But, I must also say this : Kirk's admirers are talking about the vile stuff, hatred etc coming from the progressive left. But, I tell them this : Come on, if for example a very popular left-wing influencer etc had been assassinated, I am 99.9999 percent sure that similar dose of joy would have been expressed by many on the right. So, it is not a matter of hatred coming from one side only.

It seems firing the head of the Salt Lake City FBI Field Office while assigning FBI agents away from their normal duties onto assisting ICE was not such a bright idea.

https://thenightly.com.au/world/usa/charlie-kirk-fbi-releases-photos-of-person-of-interest-high-powered-bolt-action-rifle-found-in-woods-c-19992933

14 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

It seems firing the head of the Salt Lake City FBI Field Office while assigning FBI agents away from their normal duties onto assisting ICE was not such a bright idea.

 

Do you honestly believe the FBI could/would have prevented this?  Or are you just parroting the MSM looking to blame Trump?

 

Why would the FBI even be at a campus event?

 

3 hours ago, Jingthing said:

Looking into history, it's easy to find how high profile violent events such as the assassination of Kirk have been used by authoritarian regimes to accelerate extremist agendas. Watch out for that happening again.

Looking into history, it's easy to find how high profile violent events such as the assassination of Kirk have been inspired by hateful rhetoric such as what the left media mob, politicians and you yourself and many others have posted countless times on this forum to accelerate extremist events. Watch out for that happening again.

Photo of a "person of interest"

 

Source : The New Daily

 

Obviously looks like a leftist. He's too skinny to be a MAGA.