Their hypocrisy knows no bounds.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/sep/11/republican-senator-mike-lee-kirk-shooting-melissa-hortman

 

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Only months ago, Mike Lee had posted disparaging tweets after Democrat Melissa Hortman and her husband were fatally shot

 

To summarize:

 

When a Republican is shot

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A post from Lee, who joined the Senate in 2011, denounced Kirk’s murder as “a cowardly act of violence” while hailing the Turning Point USA executive director as an “American patriot” and “inspiration to countless young people”. His post also solicited prayers for the 31-year-old Kirk’s widow, Erika, and their children.

 

When a Democrat is shot

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“This is what happens,” Lee wrote in an X post, “When Marxists don’t get their way.” Attached to the post was a picture of the suspect charged in the shooting, Vance Boelter, evidently wearing a latex face mask.

Separately, under another picture of Boelter, Lee wrote, “Nightmare on Waltz Street,” which appeared to be a reference to Tim Walz, Minnesota’s Democratic governor, who was Kamala Harris’s running mate in the 2024 presidential election won by Donald Trump.

Lee’s allusion to Walz came as conservative influencers misleadingly suggested an alliance between the governor and Boelter. Walz’s Democratic predecessor, Mark Dayton, appointed Boelter in 2016 to a 60-member voluntary advisory board. Boelter’s appointment was renewed in 2019 by Walz, who did not know him.

 

But wait, there is more.  This is not the first time, and he was also joined by people like the convicted felon con man himself, Musk, and a bunch of other Republicans

https://www.cnn.com/2025/06/16/politics/mike-lee-political-violence-claims-analysis

 

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Mike Lee, prominent Republicans leap to baseless claims about political violence – again

 

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Soon after the attack on the then-82-year-old man, misinformation flowed about Paul Pelosi and the attacker, David DePape. But it wasn’t just right-wing influencers leading the charge; it was also the likes of then-former President Donald Trump, Elon Musk and a coterie of prominent Republicans.

 

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These theories generally held or winked at the idea that the attack was a “false flag,” and/or that Paul Pelosi had been engaged in a gay lover’s quarrel – even as he was recovering from nearly being killed.

 

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Some on the modern right apparently can’t allow that someone on their side could be responsible for such violence, so they’ve again leapt to link the attacker to the other side with innuendo and falsehoods.

 

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But many on the right weren’t about to wait for all that; they tried to attach the shooter to the left – and quick.

 

And all that culminates in this.  When MAGA talks about hateful speech and violent rhetoric, they all need to look in the mirror

 

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Republican Sen. Mike Lee of Utah repeatedly suggested Boelter is not just a leftist but a “Marxist” and linked him to Walz in an X post: “Nightmare on Waltz Street.” Lee also wrote: “This is what happens when Marxists don’t get their way.”
 

Musk, apparently unchastened by the Paul Pelosi situation, also promoted a post linking the shooter to the left, writing, “The far left is murderously violent.”
 

Republican Sen. Bernie Moreno of Ohio added in his own X post about the flyers: “The degree to which the extreme left has become radical, violent, and intolerant is both stunning and terrifying.”

 

Donald Trump Jr. on Monday wagered that that shooter “went after someone that didn’t just blindly follow Democrat radical leftist dogma.” He added: “It’s scary stuff, but it seems to all be coming from the left.”

 

Influencers went even further, with some of the most prominent and recognizable ones suggesting without any evidence that Walz was somehow involved in the attack. “Did Tim Walz have her executed to send a message?,” asked right-wing figure Mike Cernovich on X.

 

Agreed and now it seems they are in full whitewashing mode with the Kirk guy sure feels ugly now.im sure they will use this to foment division and hate ….sad 

41 minutes ago, Tug said:

Agreed and now it seems they are in full whitewashing mode with the Kirk guy sure feels ugly now.im sure they will use this to foment division and hate ….sad 

 

 

They haven't even caught the guy yet and these nut jobs are already starting with the conspiracy theories.

 

 

 

8 hours ago, shdmn said:

Their hypocrisy knows no bounds.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/sep/11/republican-senator-mike-lee-kirk-shooting-melissa-hortman

 

 

To summarize:

 

When a Republican is shot

 

When a Democrat is shot

 

But wait, there is more.  This is not the first time, and he was also joined by people like the convicted felon con man himself, Musk, and a bunch of other Republicans

https://www.cnn.com/2025/06/16/politics/mike-lee-political-violence-claims-analysis

 

 

 

 

 

 

And all that culminates in this.  When MAGA talks about hateful speech and violent rhetoric, they all need to look in the mirror

 

 

Well, as the right wing ideology is the only way to protect a country, its borders, and its culture, I would welcome any narrative positive supporting the right wing. The right wing needs all the help it can get...

 

 I really liked Charlie Kirk, I listened to him every time I had an opportunity, and just cannot understand why anyone would want to do harm to him.

I look back, think about anything that he might have said to explain this atrocity. I come back empty handed.

 

What has the world become....

1 hour ago, Andre0720 said:

I really liked Charlie Kirk, I listened to him every time I had an opportunity, and just cannot understand why anyone would want to do harm to him.

I look back, think about anything that he might have said to explain this atrocity. I come back empty handed.

 

What has the world become....

 

Lots of people liked Charlie Kirk.  He debated people fairly and with respect.  But he convinced a lot of young people to vote Red.  The lefties can't have that...  That's why so many of them are celebrating.

 

 

The reactions from the democrats have been measured with condemnation, condolences and sadness. The reactions from the maga have been a call for war.

13 minutes ago, stevenl said:

The reactions from the democrats have been measured with condemnation, condolences and sadness. The reactions from the maga have been a call for war.

 

...measured with condemnation, condolences and sadness. 

 

You and I are obviously not watching the same news sources. 

 

Kudos to some organizations for firing a bunch of the lefties that are celebrating the murder.  (Even MSNBC)  It'll be interesting to see the final count.

 

1 hour ago, impulse said:

 

...measured with condemnation, condolences and sadness. 

 

You and I are obviously not watching the same news sources. 

 

Kudos to some organizations for firing a bunch of the lefties that are celebrating the murder.  (Even MSNBC)  It'll be interesting to see the final count.

 

Just compare the comments from Harris, biden and Obama with those from trump. 

39 minutes ago, stevenl said:

Just compare the comments from Harris, biden and Obama with those from trump. 

 

Of course they are pushing for restraint...  It's not one of their supporters who was just murdered.  And I'd add that none of the 3 of them were shot at recently.  I imagine that getting shot in the ear may affect the way you react to one of your supporters being murdered by a sniper.

 

They'd be screaming for blood if it was one of theirs.

37 minutes ago, impulse said:

 

Of course they are pushing for restraint...  It's not one of their supporters who was just murdered.  And I'd add that none of the 3 of them were shot at recently.  I imagine that getting shot in the ear may affect the way you react to one of your supporters being murdered by a sniper.

They'd be screaming for blood if it was one of theirs.

"They'd be screaming for blood if it was one of theirs."
Theirs have been attacked, without them screaming for blood. In stead they're pointing at the inflaming rhetoric that's causing this..

 

 

Nobody can tell me any of that is even vaguely racist or divisive.

 

 

On race
If I see a Black pilot, I’m going to be like, boy, I hope he’s qualified.
– The Charlie Kirk Show, 23 January 2024
If you’re a WNBA, pot-smoking, Black lesbian, do you get treated better than a United States marine?
– The Charlie Kirk Show, 8 December 2022
Happening all the time in urban America, prowling Blacks go around for fun to go target white people, that’s a fact. It’s happening more and more.
– The Charlie Kirk Show, 19 May 2023
If I’m dealing with somebody in customer service who’s a moronic Black woman, I wonder is she there because of her excellence, or is she there because affirmative action?
– The Charlie Kirk Show, 3 January 2024
If we would have said that Joy Reid and Michelle Obama and Sheila Jackson Lee and Ketanji Brown Jackson were affirmative action picks, we would have been called racists. Now they’re coming out and they’re saying it for us … You do not have the brain processing power to otherwise be taken really seriously. You had to go steal a white person’s slot to go be taken somewhat seriously.
– The Charlie Kirk Show, 13 July 2023

Prove me wrong.

Reject feminism. Submit to your husband, Taylor. You’re not in charge.
– Discussing news of Taylor Swift and Travis Kelce’s engagement on The Charlie Kirk Show, 26 August 2025
The answer is yes, the baby would be delivered.
– Responding to a question about whether he would support his 10-year-old daughter aborting a pregnancy conceived because of rape on the debate show Surrounded, published on 8 September 2024
We need to have a Nuremberg-style trial for every gender-affirming clinic doctor. We need it immediately.
– The Charlie Kirk Show, 1 April 2024
On gun violence
I think it’s worth to have a cost of, unfortunately, some gun deaths every single year so that we can have the second amendment to protect our other God-given rights. That is a prudent deal. It is rational.
– Event organized by TPUSA Faith, the religious arm of Kirk’s conservative group Turning Point USA, on 5 April 2023
On immigration
America was at its peak when we halted immigration for 40 years and we dropped our foreign-born percentage to its lowest level ever. We should be unafraid to do that.
– The Charlie Kirk Show, 22 August 2025
The American Democrat party hates this country. They wanna see it collapse. They love it when America becomes less white.
– The Charlie Kirk Show, 20 March 2024
The great replacement strategy, which is well under way every single day in our southern border, is a strategy to replace white rural America with something different.
– The Charlie Kirk Show, 1 March 2024
On Islam
America has freedom of religion, of course, but we should be frank: large dedicated Islamic areas are a threat to America.
– The Charlie Kirk Show, 30 April 2025
We’ve been warning about the rise of Islam on the show, to great amount of backlash. We don’t care, that’s what we do here. And we said that Islam is not compatible with western civilization.
– The Charlie Kirk Show, 24 June 2025
Islam is the sword the left is using to slit the throat of America.
– Charlie Kirk social media post, 8 September 2025
On religion
There is no separation of church and state. It’s a fabrication, it’s a fiction, it’s not in the constitution. It’s made up by secular humanists.
– The Charlie Kirk Show, 6 July 2022

6 minutes ago, stevenl said:

 In stead they're pointing at the inflaming rhetoric that's causing this..

 

That's rich.  Calling for less inflammatory rhetoric while at the same time calling Trump a dictator and deriding Trump supporters as enemies of democracy. 

 

With a lot of Dems insisting that they need to do whatever it takes to stop Trump, even if that means breaking the law.

 

5 minutes ago, Will B Good said:

 

 

Nobody can tell me any of that is even vaguely racist or divisive.

 

 

On race
If I see a Black pilot, I’m going to be like, boy, I hope he’s qualified.
– The Charlie Kirk Show, 23 January 2024
If you’re a WNBA, pot-smoking, Black lesbian, do you get treated better than a United States marine?
– The Charlie Kirk Show, 8 December 2022
Happening all the time in urban America, prowling Blacks go around for fun to go target white people, that’s a fact. It’s happening more and more.
– The Charlie Kirk Show, 19 May 2023
If I’m dealing with somebody in customer service who’s a moronic Black woman, I wonder is she there because of her excellence, or is she there because affirmative action?
– The Charlie Kirk Show, 3 January 2024
If we would have said that Joy Reid and Michelle Obama and Sheila Jackson Lee and Ketanji Brown Jackson were affirmative action picks, we would have been called racists. Now they’re coming out and they’re saying it for us … You do not have the brain processing power to otherwise be taken really seriously. You had to go steal a white person’s slot to go be taken somewhat seriously.
– The Charlie Kirk Show, 13 July 2023

Prove me wrong.

Reject feminism. Submit to your husband, Taylor. You’re not in charge.
– Discussing news of Taylor Swift and Travis Kelce’s engagement on The Charlie Kirk Show, 26 August 2025
The answer is yes, the baby would be delivered.
– Responding to a question about whether he would support his 10-year-old daughter aborting a pregnancy conceived because of rape on the debate show Surrounded, published on 8 September 2024
We need to have a Nuremberg-style trial for every gender-affirming clinic doctor. We need it immediately.
– The Charlie Kirk Show, 1 April 2024
On gun violence
I think it’s worth to have a cost of, unfortunately, some gun deaths every single year so that we can have the second amendment to protect our other God-given rights. That is a prudent deal. It is rational.
– Event organized by TPUSA Faith, the religious arm of Kirk’s conservative group Turning Point USA, on 5 April 2023
On immigration
America was at its peak when we halted immigration for 40 years and we dropped our foreign-born percentage to its lowest level ever. We should be unafraid to do that.
– The Charlie Kirk Show, 22 August 2025
The American Democrat party hates this country. They wanna see it collapse. They love it when America becomes less white.
– The Charlie Kirk Show, 20 March 2024
The great replacement strategy, which is well under way every single day in our southern border, is a strategy to replace white rural America with something different.
– The Charlie Kirk Show, 1 March 2024
On Islam
America has freedom of religion, of course, but we should be frank: large dedicated Islamic areas are a threat to America.
– The Charlie Kirk Show, 30 April 2025
We’ve been warning about the rise of Islam on the show, to great amount of backlash. We don’t care, that’s what we do here. And we said that Islam is not compatible with western civilization.
– The Charlie Kirk Show, 24 June 2025
Islam is the sword the left is using to slit the throat of America.
– Charlie Kirk social media post, 8 September 2025
On religion
There is no separation of church and state. It’s a fabrication, it’s a fiction, it’s not in the constitution. It’s made up by secular humanists.
– The Charlie Kirk Show, 6 July 2022

 

Every single one of those quotes was taken out of its context. 

 

A lefty specialty...  Right out of the playbook.

 

1 minute ago, impulse said:

 

Every single one of those quotes was taken out of its context.

 

 

 

Strange as most are direct quotes.

 

You sound very defensive?

19 minutes ago, Will B Good said:

Strange as most are direct quotes.

 

You sound very defensive?

 

Yup.  Direct quotes, taken out of context.  Like "Bloodbath".

37 minutes ago, Will B Good said:

 

 

Nobody can tell me any of that is even vaguely racist or divisive.

 

 

On race
If I see a Black pilot, I’m going to be like, boy, I hope he’s qualified.
– The Charlie Kirk Show, 23 January 2024
If you’re a WNBA, pot-smoking, Black lesbian, do you get treated better than a United States marine?
– The Charlie Kirk Show, 8 December 2022
Happening all the time in urban America, prowling Blacks go around for fun to go target white people, that’s a fact. It’s happening more and more.
– The Charlie Kirk Show, 19 May 2023
If I’m dealing with somebody in customer service who’s a moronic Black woman, I wonder is she there because of her excellence, or is she there because affirmative action?
– The Charlie Kirk Show, 3 January 2024
If we would have said that Joy Reid and Michelle Obama and Sheila Jackson Lee and Ketanji Brown Jackson were affirmative action picks, we would have been called racists. Now they’re coming out and they’re saying it for us … You do not have the brain processing power to otherwise be taken really seriously. You had to go steal a white person’s slot to go be taken somewhat seriously.
– The Charlie Kirk Show, 13 July 2023

Prove me wrong.

Reject feminism. Submit to your husband, Taylor. You’re not in charge.
– Discussing news of Taylor Swift and Travis Kelce’s engagement on The Charlie Kirk Show, 26 August 2025
The answer is yes, the baby would be delivered.
– Responding to a question about whether he would support his 10-year-old daughter aborting a pregnancy conceived because of rape on the debate show Surrounded, published on 8 September 2024
We need to have a Nuremberg-style trial for every gender-affirming clinic doctor. We need it immediately.
– The Charlie Kirk Show, 1 April 2024
On gun violence
I think it’s worth to have a cost of, unfortunately, some gun deaths every single year so that we can have the second amendment to protect our other God-given rights. That is a prudent deal. It is rational.
– Event organized by TPUSA Faith, the religious arm of Kirk’s conservative group Turning Point USA, on 5 April 2023
On immigration
America was at its peak when we halted immigration for 40 years and we dropped our foreign-born percentage to its lowest level ever. We should be unafraid to do that.
– The Charlie Kirk Show, 22 August 2025
The American Democrat party hates this country. They wanna see it collapse. They love it when America becomes less white.
– The Charlie Kirk Show, 20 March 2024
The great replacement strategy, which is well under way every single day in our southern border, is a strategy to replace white rural America with something different.
– The Charlie Kirk Show, 1 March 2024
On Islam
America has freedom of religion, of course, but we should be frank: large dedicated Islamic areas are a threat to America.
– The Charlie Kirk Show, 30 April 2025
We’ve been warning about the rise of Islam on the show, to great amount of backlash. We don’t care, that’s what we do here. And we said that Islam is not compatible with western civilization.
– The Charlie Kirk Show, 24 June 2025
Islam is the sword the left is using to slit the throat of America.
– Charlie Kirk social media post, 8 September 2025
On religion
There is no separation of church and state. It’s a fabrication, it’s a fiction, it’s not in the constitution. It’s made up by secular humanists.
– The Charlie Kirk Show, 6 July 2022

I don't condone poltical violence in any form, but serously, he sounds by all accounts a real arrogant,conspiracy-loving, racist, misogynist, right wing nutjob of the worst kind. Did he really believe this stuff?

Just now, Summerinsiam said:

I don't condone poltical violence in any form, but serously, he sounds by all accounts a real arrogant,conspiracy-loving, racist, misogynist, right wing nutjob of the worst kind. Did he really believe this stuff?

 

Absolutely....he was very fervent in all his beliefs.....and of course all were founded upon and backed up by his Christian beliefs and the Bible. 

44 minutes ago, Will B Good said:

 

Strange as most are direct quotes.

 

You sound very defensive?

Of course he is defensive,the idiot has nothing to offer as usual,he is full of crap/.

18 minutes ago, theshu25 said:

Of course he is defensive,the idiot has nothing to offer as usual,he is full of crap/.

 

Thanks for that vote of confidence.  It's encouraging to know that I'm pissing off the right people.