19 hours ago, connda said:

I simply make the suggestion that all Pro-Vaxx members make sure that they get their mRNA boosters as often as deemed necessary by "The Experts."  They do humanity one heck of a service by selflessly volunteering to be unpaid long-term participants in long-term mRNA vaccine studies.

Thank you one an all.  And remember to keep repeating this mantra to yourselves between boosters: 
"Safe & Effective."

The Pro-Vax members can have mine as well because I am not getting any more of them.

Unreliable not trustworthy source.

Famous for conspiracy theories.

Check Naomi Wolf Wikipedia 

48 minutes ago, Lacessit said:

Bacteria and viruses can be seen with a scanning electron microscope.

Some bacteria can be seen with older lens microscopes.

 

Viruses, on the other hand, are 'said' to be seen using electron microscopy. But they are indisguisable from the rest of the cell debris being viewed.

 

From petri-dish to microscope there are a dozen steps. By the time the viewed it is nothing like it is in nature.

 

Nature has the answers.

 

 

Anything that directly or indirectly interacts with your DNA I am against. The vaccines are MRNA of which RNA is a part of the entire DNA.

14 minutes ago, jaywalker2 said:

Syphilis was the scourge of Europe. Franz Schubert, Manet, Baudelaire, Oscar Wilde, Nietzche, Gaugin, etc either died from it or complications caused by it. It was a bacterial infection but the principle still applies. The indigenous populations of the New World were wiped out by smallpox. Millions of people. Did big pharma do that?

Try mercury poisoning.

 

The gun wiped out the people. Nothing to do with smallpox. Simply myths to excuse genocides.

7 minutes ago, newbee2022 said:

Unreliable not trustworthy source.

Famous for conspiracy theories.

Check Naomi Wolf Wikipedia 

 

The OP is a video of the speech that Naomi Wolf gave in the European Parliament. 

Are you saying that the European Parliament gave the floor to an 'unreliable not trustworthy source'?  

And that your proof is the hit-piece on Naomi Wolf on Wikipedia?  

It can't get more ridiculous than that...

 

6 minutes ago, newbee2022 said:

Unreliable not trustworthy source.

Famous for conspiracy theories.

Check Naomi Wolf Wikipedia 

Shoot the messenger; why don't you.

 

Why not research her findings instead?

8 minutes ago, newbee2022 said:

Unreliable not trustworthy source.

Famous for conspiracy theories.

Check Naomi Wolf Wikipedia 

 

Unreliable not trustworthy source.

Famous for conspiracy theories.

Wikipedia 

 

Fixed it for you.  Sad, really.  Because I remember when Wikipedia was actually useful.

 

Just now, impulse said:

 

Unreliable not trustworthy source.

Famous for conspiracy theories.

Wikipedia 

 

Fixed it for you.  Sad, really.  Because I remember when Wikipedia was actually useful.

 

And Wiki is to this day. If you want info on the breeding habits of greater, long-tail viathon it's informative and great reading.

 

Want truth about Climate Change and vaccines; better to visit AN.

3 hours ago, Peter Crow said:

I had several bouts of bad diarrhoea after my four Moderna shots.

 

That's the Truth.

The fact that you would consider diarrhea alongside bullous pemphigoid says everything.

1 minute ago, sandyf said:

The fact that you would consider diarrhea alongside bullous pemphigoid says everything.

Both are symptoms of toxicity.

 

They are the body ridding itself of undesirables, that have been deliberately taken in or unwittingly.

34 minutes ago, Red Phoenix said:

 

The OP is a video of the speech that Naomi Wolf gave in the European Parliament. 

Are you saying that the European Parliament gave the floor to an 'unreliable not trustworthy source'?  

And that your proof is the hit-piece on Naomi Wolf on Wikipedia?  

It can't get more ridiculous than that...

 

Then laugh

34 minutes ago, Stiddle Mump said:

Shoot the messenger; why don't you.

 

Why not research her findings instead?

555 do it if you like

37 minutes ago, Red Phoenix said:

 

The OP is a video of the speech that Naomi Wolf gave in the European Parliament. 

Are you saying that the European Parliament gave the floor to an 'unreliable not trustworthy source'?  

And that your proof is the hit-piece on Naomi Wolf on Wikipedia?  

It can't get more ridiculous than that...

 

Of course not trustworthy. Putin was speaking in the German Parliament. Is he reliable and trustworthy??

You're a joke 🤣 

2 hours ago, BritManToo said:

Plentiful food, clean water and regular exercise will prevent most serious illness.

 

Polio is caused by ingesting poop contaminated food and water, remove the poop and the problem is solved.

 

And pesticides.

A hypothetical question for the anti-vaxxers on this thread:

 

Equipped with the knowledge you think you have, let's say you could travel back to your childhood, and had free will without parents or teachers.

 

Would you reject vaccination for polio, tetanus, typhoid, measles and hepatitis?

Just now, Lacessit said:

A hypothetical question for the anti-vaxxers on this thread:

 

Equipped with the knowledge you think you have, let's say you could travel back to your childhood, and had free will without parents or teachers.

 

Would you reject vaccination for polio, tetanus, typhoid, measles and hepatitis?

 

Yes.

45 minutes ago, Lacessit said:

A hypothetical question for the anti-vaxxers on this thread:

 

Equipped with the knowledge you think you have, let's say you could travel back to your childhood, and had free will without parents or teachers.

 

Would you reject vaccination for polio, tetanus, typhoid, measles and hepatitis?

Yep,

Nobody ever had polio where I lived in the UK

Tetanus I've not caught despite 40 plus years of no boosters

Typhoid refused, and I didn't catch it in Asia, Africa or the Middle East

Measles not available, and I had it age 9, no big deal

Hepatitis refused, and I've not caught it despite 16 years of bareback with hookers

 

TB, refused that too, no scar on my arm, didn't catch it in Asia, Africa or the Middle East either.

46 minutes ago, Lacessit said:

A hypothetical question for the anti-vaxxers on this thread:

 

Equipped with the knowledge you think you have, let's say you could travel back to your childhood, and had free will without parents or teachers.

 

Would you reject vaccination for polio, tetanus, typhoid, measles and hepatitis?

Yes. 100%. I wouldn't have one of them.

 

',,,anti-vaxxers,,,' I'm pro-nature.

 

 

1 hour ago, BritManToo said:

Yep,

Nobody ever had polio where I lived in the UK

Tetanus I've not caught despite 40 plus years of no boosters

Typhoid refused, and I didn't catch it in Asia, Africa or the Middle East

Measles not available, and I had it age 9, no big deal

Hepatitis refused, and I've not caught it despite 16 years of bareback with hookers

 

TB, refused that too, no scar on my arm, didn't catch it in Asia, Africa or the Middle East either.

So you are lucky, or have an excellent immune system.

 

Do you think everyone else has?

Just now, Lacessit said:

So you are lucky, or have an excellent immune system.

 

Do you think everyone else has?

I think everyone that hasn't received multiple vaccinations has!

1 minute ago, BritManToo said:

I think everyone that hasn't received multiple vaccinations has!

Any statistics to back up your opinion?

 

I've had more jabs than a pincushion, still going at my national average male life expectancy.

 

Still waiting for someone to explain why unvaccinated COVID patients were 6-7 times more likely to require ICU admission.

18 minutes ago, Lacessit said:

Still waiting for someone to explain why unvaccinated COVID patients were 6-7 times more likely to require ICU admission.

Nonsense!

 

There was/is no such thing as an unvaccinated covid patient. Can't get something that don't exist, can you?

 

The vaxxed that were filling up the wards, were all vax-injured, in one way or another.

13 hours ago, rattlesnake said:

 

It's good that you have changed your mind over the past three years. The message below, from 2022, was your response to a poster expressing reticence to the Covid vaccine because of the available safety data.

 

This demonstrates that you can be sure of something today, but less sure tomorrow. A valuable principle to bear in mind.

 

 

 

 

On the contrary, I remain just as intolerant of ill-informed fools who peddle misinformation and paranoia.

 

My remark was not a softening of that stance, but rather an acknowledgment that I can understand why some people, specifically regarding mRNA vaccines, might harbour doubts. Their scepticism often stems less from science itself and more from a deep mistrust of authorities who, under the extraordinary pressures of the pandemic, made the difficult decision to fast-track vaccine approval.

 

Recognising the roots of that mistrust, however, does not mean excusing the spread of baseless fear and misnformation regarding vaccines in general....

 

 

 

 

5 minutes ago, Stiddle Mump said:

Nonsense!

 

There was/is no such thing as an unvaccinated covid patient. Can't get something that don't exist, can you?

 

The vaxxed that were filling up the wards, were all vax-injured, in one way or another.

I am not going to waste my time debating someone living in a different universe, with alternative facts.

3 minutes ago, richard_smith237 said:

Their scepticism often stems less from science itself and more from a deep mistrust of authorities who, under the extraordinary pressures of the pandemic, made the difficult decision to fast-track vaccine approval.

There was no pandemic. You are an easy fish to catch.

 

The whole thing was thought out, and planned, years earlier.

14 hours ago, rattlesnake said:

No, I don't think it's that simple. Binary, dichotomic reasoning is often more detrimental than anything else.

 

I will try to keep it simple nonetheless. I subscribe to Antoine Béchamp's statement that "the microbe is nothing, the terrain is everything". And I am convinced that the pharmaceutical industry went all in with the virus paradigm for profit and profit only.

 

So when I hear someone say viruses don't exist, I am not shocked by it at all. The truth is that ultimately, it doesn't matter that much to me.

 

And if you insist on putting me in one of the two boxes, then yes, the closest one to my rationale would probably be the "No, they don't exist" one.

 

That’s an interesting response – though unsurprising, given your broader stance that vaccines are ineffective.

 

I too see merit in the terrain theory: the idea that maintaining a strong internal environment through nutrition, lifestyle, and overall health provides resilience against disease. It certainly plays a crucial role in determining how our bodies respond to infections, and no reasonable person would deny the importance of strengthening our immune system through healthy living.

 

However, terrain theory cannot stand alone. History has shown us time and again that even the healthiest populations are not immune to the devastating effects of certain pathogens. Smallpox, for instance, killed millions regardless of diet or lifestyle, until its eradication through vaccination.

 

Similarly, polio paralysed otherwise healthy children until widespread immunisation brought cases down by over 99%. Vaccines do not negate the value of a robust “terrain” – rather, they complement it, offering targeted protection against specific threats that the immune system, unaided, may not be able to fend off effectively.

 

In short, while the terrain provides the foundation for health, vaccines act as essential reinforcements – shielding us against particular dangers that could overwhelm even the strongest constitution.

 

 

(not that you made it, but others seem to be) An argument that pits terrain against vaccines as an “either-or” option is fundamentally flawed – and, to be blunt, rather stupid in my opinion. It’s like saying that because eating well keeps you healthy, there’s no need for antibiotics if you get a serious bacterial infection, or that because your car has good tyres, you don’t need brakes. One supports overall strength and resilience, the other addresses immediate and specific dangers – both are indispensable.

2 minutes ago, Stiddle Mump said:

8 minutes ago, richard_smith237 said:

Their scepticism often stems less from science itself and more from a deep mistrust of authorities who, under the extraordinary pressures of the pandemic, made the difficult decision to fast-track vaccine approval.

There was no pandemic. You are an easy fish to catch.

 

The whole thing was thought out, and planned, years earlier.

 

Sorry - no more debating with complete fools and getting dragged down to your level... 

15 minutes ago, Lacessit said:

I am not going to waste my time debating someone living in a different universe, with alternative facts.

Why not debate instead of throwing out silly-billy remarks.

 

As Red has often said; you cannot dispute the truth, so shoot the messenger.

 

I'll kick the debate off; 'Where is the evidence that illnesses can be passed from one person to another?' As in 'catching a cold'.

3 minutes ago, richard_smith237 said:

Similarly, polio paralysed otherwise healthy children until widespread immunisation brought cases down by over 99%. Vaccines do not negate the value of a robust “terrain” – rather, they complement it, offering targeted protection against specific threats that the immune system, unaided, may not be able to fend off effectively.

DDT, and other chemicals caused what is generally called polio.

 

Vaccines do not negate the value of a robust “terrain” Monumental humbug Sir. You cannot poison the body to good health. The body, healthy or not, sees a vax as a poison. It is possible that a healthy body will be able to fight of the toxic insult. Others cannot and might just die. Orin the specific case of polio; become paralysed.