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18 hours ago, Red Phoenix said:

Good question, and the fact that you don't hear a peep about it on the mainstream media, kind of makes me suspect that the figures would be rather inconvenient for those that coerced us into taking the shots to 'protect us from Covid'.  

 

i'm really adding on to your now deleted post of the "safe and effective"  lies.

There is a great video montage on El Gato yesterday ......  i cannot transfer to here (maybe someone can) ........ or read the whole thing.    ACCOUNTABILITY  to those who perpetrated to evil on us the last 10 years (and more) :

https://boriquagato.substack.com/p/good-for-geese-good-for-ganders

46 minutes ago, transam said:

The vax does not stop you getting Covid......🤒

 

These guys and gals should have listened to your sage advice: 

 

The general claims above were in fact broadly accurate in the early days of COVID vaccine rollout. There was justification for people to say what they said...at a certain point in time.

 

 

https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMoa2034577

 

Pfizer and BioNTech to submit Covid-19 vaccine data to FDA as full results show 95% efficacy

Nov. 18, 2020

 

"Pfizer and BioNTech announced Wednesday that the efficacy portion of their Covid-19 vaccine trial has been completed, showing the vaccine to prevent 95% of cases of the disease.

 

The companies said that they plan to submit to the Food and Drug Administration for an emergency use authorization “within days,” and will also submit to regulatory agencies around the globe.

 

The results come little more than a week after the companies said an earlier analysis from the study showed the vaccine reduced infections by more than 90%, and just days after another company, Moderna, said that a similar vaccine reduced infections by 94.5%. Taken together, the results raise hopes that vaccines will be broadly available sometime next year, and also, perhaps, that other vaccines against the disease will also prove effective."

 

https://www.statnews.com/2020/11/18/pfizer-biontech-covid19-vaccine-fda-data/

 

But as is the case with all viruses, and especially coronaviruses, they mutate over time... And the effectiveness of one vaccine at a given point in time changes with those mutations, and newer vaccines need to be developed to respond to those changes, which is in fact what has occurred in recent years.

 

15 minutes ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said:

The general claims above were in fact broadly accurate in the early days of COVID vaccine rollout. There was justification for people to say what they said...at a certain point in time.

...

 

A fine example of NewSpeak in the Orwell 1984 tradition. 

• "were in fact broadly accurate in the early days of COVID vaccine rollout"  =  were proven wrong  
• "there was justification for people to say what they said..."  =  lying is allowed if it serves our goals 

 

2 minutes ago, Red Phoenix said:

 

A fine example of NewSpeak in the Orwell 1984 tradition. 

• "were in fact broadly accurate in the early days of COVID vaccine rollout"  =  were proven wrong  
• "there was justification for people to say what they said..."  =  lying is allowed if it serves our goals 

 

You would knock ANY form of pharma medication, ANY, it's your agenda......🤥

 

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A fine example of NewSpeak in the Orwell 1984 tradition. 

 

 

Ahh.... you mean lying like:

 

After Trump win, RFK Jr. says he won't 'take away anybody's vaccines'

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2024-election/trump-win-rfk-jr-says-wont-take-away-anybodys-vaccines-rcna178955

 

COVID Vaccines Are Harder to Get, Despite Claims from HHS, RFK Jr.

https://www.factcheck.org/2025/09/covid-vaccines-are-harder-to-get-despite-claims-from-hhs-rfk-jr/

 

RFK Jr says no COVID vaccines for healthy children, pregnant women

https://www.cidrap.umn.edu/covid-19/rfk-jr-says-no-covid-vaccines-healthy-children-pregnant-women

 

 

 

11 minutes ago, transam said:

You would knock ANY form of pharma medication, ANY, it's your agenda......🤥

I'm OK with antibiotics, tramadol, paracetamol, Imodium

And any drugs that I can choose to take or not

It's when a government coerces me to take something that causes a problem.

 

You should also be free to take as many steroids as you like.

4 minutes ago, BritManToo said:

I'm OK with antibiotics, tramadol, paracetamol, Imodium

And any drugs that I can choose to take or not

It's when a government coerces me to take something that causes a problem.

 

You should also be free to take as many steroids as you like.

You take steroids..Wow, now that may also shorten your life.......😯

7 minutes ago, transam said:

You would knock ANY form of pharma medication, ANY, it's your agenda......🤥

 

Nope, I have no issue at all you taking as much pills, drugs and injections as you want.  

But I vehemently object in being coerced to do the same in order to cater for your false sense of security.  

1 minute ago, Red Phoenix said:

 

Nope, I have no issue at all you taking as much pills, drugs and injections as you want.  

But I vehemently object in being coerced to do the same in order to cater for your false sense of security.  

Yeh, riiiiiiiiiiight....................😂

6 hours ago, BarraMarra said:

So if you caught Malaria you wouldn't accept the Vaccine to cure it, or a viral chest infection ? you wouldnt accept an Anti Biotic to fight it.

Of course not. The vax can't help you. Just adds another layer of poison the body has to deal with.

 

I'd let it run its course. 

2 minutes ago, Stiddle Mump said:

Of course not. The vax can't help you. Just adds another layer of poison the body has to deal with.

 

I'd let it run its course. 

..........and hope I don't die..............🥺

4 minutes ago, Red Phoenix said:

 

Nope, I have no issue at all you taking as much pills, drugs and injections as you want.  

But I vehemently object in being coerced to do the same in order to cater for your false sense of security.  

I'm against giving vaxxes to babes, toddlers and kids. As I know you are Red.

 

The only real way out of this Big Pharma, compromised white-coat mess, is truth and education.

 

Ignorance and apathy are our worst enemy.

19 minutes ago, transam said:

You take steroids..Wow, now that may also shorten your life.......😯

I added that line for you!

I know you like them.

11 hours ago, transam said:

You take steroids..Wow, now that may also shorten your life.......😯

 

Human beings willingly line up for drugs that harm their lives like cigarettes and excessive alcohol and steroids. 

But dont like being told by govt what to take. 

The same guy who smokes 2 packs of cigarettes a day refused the Covid jab. 

 

33 minutes ago, Red Phoenix said:

 

A fine example of NewSpeak in the Orwell 1984 tradition. 

• "were in fact broadly accurate in the early days of COVID vaccine rollout"  =  were proven wrong  
• "there was justification for people to say what they said..."  =  lying is allowed if it serves our goals 

 

 

EXACTLY   ..........

On 9/24/2025 at 11:34 AM, TallGuyJohninBKK said:

Anti-vax groups distort information by misinterpreting data and casting doubt on the scientific process. ...

 

The whole conspiracy movement is a sort of cult.

 

Alex Jones has the qualities of a cult leader. 

 

They get you to hate the government, mistrust everyone in power, think that they are plotting to kill you 24/7, live in fear. 

 

9 minutes ago, save the frogs said:

The whole conspiracy movement is a sort of cult.

Alex Jones has the qualities of a cult leader. 

They get you to hate the government, mistrust everyone in power, think that they are plotting to kill you 24/7, live in fear. 

Most people learn to hate their government without any cult leaders.

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1 hour ago, transam said:

..........and hope I don't die..............🥺

I thought everyone dies eventually, is that just another anti-vax  misinformation ?  

 

1 hour ago, save the frogs said:

The same guy who smokes 2 packs of cigarettes a day refused the Covid jab

There is some reports of anecdotal evidence  that smokers did better against Covid..but have not really followed it as I gave up smoking a long time ago.

Is this thread going to be as long as all the others ?

This is my last post on this thread so iv'e saved it till last. The Worlds worst killer was Small Pox that killed Millions around the word even a Billion. When it was discovered you were already waiting for Death. A Small Pox vaccine ended this painfull death and stopped millions dying from it. Small Pox cannot be irradicated and will never dissapear like Covid. Even today outbreaks of Small Pox are occuring but thanks to the vaccine it is controlled and not a killer anymore. For the Anti Vackers on this Forum carefully watch this video till the end and tell us is this what you want to see again because you spread fear of a vaccine.

 

11 minutes ago, BarraMarra said:

This is my last post on this thread so iv'e saved it till last. The Worlds worst killer was Small Pox that killed Millions around the word even a Billion. When it was discovered you were already waiting for Death. A Small Pox vaccine ended this painfull death and stopped millions dying from it. Small Pox cannot be irradicated and will never dissapear like Covid. Even today outbreaks of Small Pox are occuring but thanks to the vaccine it is controlled and not a killer anymore. For the Anti Vackers on this Forum carefully watch this video till the end and tell us is this what you want to see again because you spread fear of a vaccine.

 

Monumental humbug.

 

Too much MSM for you Sir.

This is why this thread needs to be blocked now. Even with evidence and videos to back up my post people like you Stiddle Mump will deny it and carry on spreading misleading information and spreading your rubbish on here. Why is it humbug or did Small Pox not happen.

1 hour ago, johng said:

I thought everyone dies eventually, is that just another anti-vax  misinformation ?  

 

There is some reports of anecdotal evidence  that smokers did better against Covid..but have not really followed it as I gave up smoking a long time ago.

Yes they do, well done, at least you know something.......

2 minutes ago, Stiddle Mump said:

15 minutes ago, BarraMarra said:

This is my last post on this thread so iv'e saved it till last. The Worlds worst killer was Small Pox that killed Millions around the word even a Billion. When it was discovered you were already waiting for Death. A Small Pox vaccine ended this painfull death and stopped millions dying from it. Small Pox cannot be irradicated and will never dissapear like Covid. Even today outbreaks of Small Pox are occuring but thanks to the vaccine it is controlled and not a killer anymore. For the Anti Vackers on this Forum carefully watch this video till the end and tell us is this what you want to see again because you spread fear of a vaccine.

 

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Monumental humbug.

 

Too much MSM for you Sir.

 

And there you have it… when confronted with facts, the response becomes a veritable masterclass in delusion - a breathtaking exhibition of wilful stupidity. Their skin seems to blister at the mere whisper of anything resembling mainstream media, as though reality itself were somehow toxic to their fragile convictions.

 

You can’t debate with these people; I’ve tried before. Out of the whole swarm of anti-vaxxers here, perhaps one - one - has managed to engage in anything approaching intellectual discourse without descending into the swamp of lazy memes and pseudo-science lifted from fringe websites that warp the very idea of evidence itself.

 

It’s like trying to reason with flat-earthers. Eventually, you realise there’s simply no point. Within their echo chambers, these self-proclaimed “free-thinkers” congratulate one another for their “independence”, all while spinning in a dizzying carousel of fabrication, delusion, and self-satisfied ignorance - the funnies part, some of the points made are so outlandish the must each think the other is a fringe loon !!!... 

 

Yes, they deserve a voice - that’s the burden of free speech. But what they’re doing isn’t free speech; it’s evangelism masquerading as enlightenment. Fortunately, their little corner of the forum is the only place being relentlessly and nauseatingly drowned by their collective hallucination.

1 hour ago, johng said:

I thought everyone dies eventually, is that just another anti-vax  misinformation ?  

 

There is some reports of anecdotal evidence  that smokers did better against Covid..but have not really followed it as I gave up smoking a long time ago.

No. People who drink on soi Boukhao live forever. It certainly looks that way.🙃🙃

4 minutes ago, BarraMarra said:

This is why this thread needs to be blocked now. Even with evidence and videos to back up my post people like you Stiddle Mump will deny it and carry on spreading misleading information and spreading your rubbish on here. Why is it humbug or did Small Pox not happen.

 

You can't argue with someone who refutes the very presence of viruses in nature...   Its like trying to argue with someone who claims water does not exist...

 

 

Correct Richard once the proof is shown that they cannot ignore they turn to blame MSM instead of interacting they just carry on spewing nonsense thats why theres little point carrying on this thread.