3 hours ago, Mike_Hunt said:

Oh yeah, enforcing the law is killing democracy.   OH yeah, oh yeah. 

I think they are doing a great job,  we need the same in the UK. its often necessary to enforce the law robustly, let the lads get on with it.  

2 hours ago, still kicking said:

Well, maybe still used in the USA, the civilised world stopped using them a long time ago  

1977 is not that long ago, which is when France stopped

And look what happened , its been downhill since then,  Same could be said about the UK and the rope, in 1965. all downhill since then

Racism Racism Racism

 

Trump and his cult can bark all the want about security, but the entire immigration and border issue is about one thing, and one thing only:  RACISM

 

From Trump and his “rapists and murderers” to Patrick Crusius gunning down 22 Hispanics in an El Paso Walmart, to Robert Bowers slaughtering 11 in a synagogue because that house of worship was aiding migrants from south of the border, to the masked and badge-less stormtroopers roughing up women and children and the elderly, it’s all about one thing:  RACISM. Another name for it is white supremacy.

 

The stormtroopers are attacking garment factories, farms, abattoirs, construction sites…even Little League baseball games.

 

Whom are the fascist thugs NOT going after? The white men who employ the undocumented workers. The white farmers who hire undocumented workers to harvest crops. The CEOs of stock exchange-listed companies who employ undocumented workers.

 

The vast majority of undocumented folks coming across the border work and pay taxes. If some commit crimes, it’s at a much lower rate than the population in general. It’s certainly at a lower rate than the convicted felon Trump. They are called “iilegals”, which by definition means breaking the law. However, the white company owners who employ them are also breaking the law, but heaven forbid the same racist MAGAs call these white guys “illegals”. Trump himself employed undocumented workers beginning in the early 1980s all the way until at least 2017, but Fox talking heads are not going to call him an “illegal”, despite 40 years of lawbreaking.

 

Trump’s stormtroopers are not raiding country clubs and roughing up men having Sunday Brunch with their wives and children. They aren’t firing missiles at yachts where these white employers of undocumented workers are playing sailor. Stormtroopers are not breaking into farm houses in Nebraska or Iowa and dragging off white farmers. Stormtroopers are not smashing the doors down in corner offices and zip-tying Fortune 500 CEOs, the lawbreakers who hire the undocumented workers.

 

Heaven forbid white illegals ever have to pay a price. They’re part of the Donor Class, so exempt from prosecution.

 

Yes, there is only one word for the Trump and MAGA view of ICE and its fascist actions:  RACISM.

 

Start arresting and roughing up white business owners and Fortune 500 CEOs and see what that does to folks trying to cross the border. The large majority who are job seekers won’t bother coming if there are no jobs.

 

Of course none of this would play well on Fox or in the fever swamps of MAGAstan. That audience wants to see “wetbacks” roughed up. They want to feel power. They want to feel superior. Of course none will do the jobs most of those migrants are willing to do. MAGAs in Red States prefer Social Security Disability Insurance and Food Stamps to picking lettuce or cutting up cattle. Those aren’t white people jobs.

27 minutes ago, Wingate said:

Trump and his cult can bark all the want about security, but the entire immigration and border issue is about one thing, and one thing only:  RACISM

 

Nah...this is the kind of reply one expects from the low IQ left. 

27 minutes ago, Wingate said:

Yes, there is only one word for the Trump and MAGA view of ICE and its fascist actions:  RACISM.

Nah...Another low IQ response from the left. 

30 minutes ago, Wingate said:

Racism Racism Racism

 

Trump and his cult can bark all the want about security, but the entire immigration and border issue is about one thing, and one thing only:  RACISM

 

From Trump and his “rapists and murderers” to Patrick Crusius gunning down 22 Hispanics in an El Paso Walmart, to Robert Bowers slaughtering 11 in a synagogue because that house of worship was aiding migrants from south of the border, to the masked and badge-less stormtroopers roughing up women and children and the elderly, it’s all about one thing:  RACISM. Another name for it is white supremacy.

 

The stormtroopers are attacking garment factories, farms, abattoirs, construction sites…even Little League baseball games.

 

Whom are the fascist thugs NOT going after? The white men who employ the undocumented workers. The white farmers who hire undocumented workers to harvest crops. The CEOs of stock exchange-listed companies who employ undocumented workers.

 

The vast majority of undocumented folks coming across the border work and pay taxes. If some commit crimes, it’s at a much lower rate than the population in general. It’s certainly at a lower rate than the convicted felon Trump. They are called “iilegals”, which by definition means breaking the law. However, the white company owners who employ them are also breaking the law, but heaven forbid the same racist MAGAs call these white guys “illegals”. Trump himself employed undocumented workers beginning in the early 1980s all the way until at least 2017, but Fox talking heads are not going to call him an “illegal”, despite 40 years of lawbreaking.

 

Trump’s stormtroopers are not raiding country clubs and roughing up men having Sunday Brunch with their wives and children. They aren’t firing missiles at yachts where these white employers of undocumented workers are playing sailor. Stormtroopers are not breaking into farm houses in Nebraska or Iowa and dragging off white farmers. Stormtroopers are not smashing the doors down in corner offices and zip-tying Fortune 500 CEOs, the lawbreakers who hire the undocumented workers.

 

Heaven forbid white illegals ever have to pay a price. They’re part of the Donor Class, so exempt from prosecution.

 

Yes, there is only one word for the Trump and MAGA view of ICE and its fascist actions:  RACISM.

 

Start arresting and roughing up white business owners and Fortune 500 CEOs and see what that does to folks trying to cross the border. The large majority who are job seekers won’t bother coming if there are no jobs.

 

Of course none of this would play well on Fox or in the fever swamps of MAGAstan. That audience wants to see “wetbacks” roughed up. They want to feel power. They want to feel superior. Of course none will do the jobs most of those migrants are willing to do. MAGAs in Red States prefer Social Security Disability Insurance and Food Stamps to picking lettuce or cutting up cattle. Those aren’t white people jobs.

If you would get out of your echo chamber, you would understand the people of the country are tired of mass immigration.  You support the open border pro crime party.  You are on the wrong side of this debate. 

 

 

Who leads on the economy? Republicans by seven. Immigration? Republicans by 13. How about crime? A big issue for Donald Trump and the Republicans. Look at that, lead by 22 points! So the bottom line is, at this particular point, the ball may be on the ground, but the Democrats have not picked up the ball and running with it. If anything, at this particular point, it’s the Republicans who are running with the ball on the top issues, the economy, immigration and crime.

 

https://www.mediaite.com/politics/what-are-you-doing-cnns-enten-warns-democrats-are-in-trouble-ahead-of-the-midterms/

 

The GOP boasts significant advantages over its Democratic counterparts on immigration, crime, and other important issues, according to a stunning new Reuters/Ipsos poll.

 

The survey of 1,019 American adults, which was conducted between September 19-21, found that the public trusts Republicans’ plan to address crime to the Democrats’ by 20 points (40%-20%), on immigration by 18 points (40%-22%), on foreign conflicts by 12 points (35%-23%), on the economy by 10 points (34%-24%), and on gun control (32%-28%) and political extremism (30%-26%) by four points.

 

Democrats, on the other hand, are better trusted on the environment (37%-23%), women’s rights (38%-25%), healthcare (34%-25%), and respect for democracy (31%-29%).

 

The results mirror those of a Washington Post/Ipsos poll that found the GOP has a seven-point advantage on the economy, a 13-point advantage on immigration, and a whopping 22-point advantage on crime.

 

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/republicans-mop-the-floor-with-democrats-on-the-economy-and-immigration-in-stunning-new-poll/ar-AA1Nes6x

36 minutes ago, Wingate said:

The vast majority of undocumented folks coming across the border work and pay taxes. I

They are not here legally.  End of story. 

11 hours ago, Cameroni said:

 

What tawdry nincompoopery.

 

You should study some history. The brown shirts killed people.  ICE kill no one.

 

In fact they were protecting immigrants from being shot by a lunatic leftist ANTIFA nutter.

The Brown Shirts didn’t start by killing people.

11 hours ago, blaze master said:

The maga name calling made up names are such a bore. No wonder no one takes the dems seriously anymore. 

 

 

The liberal posters get the buzz word of the day from the DNC, CNN, MSNBC, ABC, CBS, NBC, etc.   It doesn't take much research to see the same mantra spouted by liberal AN posters is the same pablum oft regurgitated by the liberal MSM.

23 minutes ago, Mike_Hunt said:

Nah...this is the kind of reply one expects from the low IQ left. 

LOL!

 

Speaking of low IQs, you of your lady bits, it seems you cannot refute any of what I wrote, so all you have is empty ad hominem.

 

I guess you think white lawbreakers, who hire the undocumented migrants, are exempt from any sort of punishment.

 

I do enjoy your "low IQ" comments. I would be glad to sit down with you in a controlled situation and take an IQ test. I'll spot you 30 points, generous guy that I am. If you had any money, and betting was legal, I'd bet you whatever sum you wanted. I assume you're on SSDI or just generally cash strapped, but I guess once in a while I can take candy from a baby.

 

Of course no doubt you're as stable of a genius as your messiah Trump, but I'm willing to take that risk.

 

What-chu say, your lady bits?

22 minutes ago, Mike_Hunt said:

They are not here legally.  End of story. 

The white business owners---including your messiah Trump until at least 2017, are breaking the law.

 

Arrest them.

 

End of story.

 

(By the way, there's a strawberry picking job just waiting for a lady bit of your skill and talent level. Go for it!)

5 minutes ago, Wingate said:

The white business owners---including your messiah Trump until at least 2017, are breaking the law.

 

Arrest them.

 

End of story.

 

(By the way, there's a strawberry picking job just waiting for a lady bit of your skill and talent level. Go for it!)

 

I see you're back with insults as usual 88. You haven't changed a bit.

 

 

9 hours ago, Yellowtail said:

These are violent leftists, attempting to decapitate ICE agents. It is not the state using them.

Wow! I assume someone took a video of one of these attempted decapitations. Right? Or some other evidence?

What do they do, pop a donut in there and call over an ICE agent to gobble it up then they slam the blade down? Do they entice them in by saying there's a brown person on the other side of this contraption, just stick your head in and you'll see him? Then bam! Decapitated!

How exactly did they do it?

Obviously never heard of symbolism have you.

When people burn effigies are they attempting to burn people alive? 

Hey look at these violent right wingers trying to HANG people to death!!! Literally there they are attempting to hang people!

 

4 minutes ago, josephbloggs said:

Wow! I assume someone took a video of one of these attempted decapitations. Right? Or some other evidence?

What do they do, pop a donut in there and call over an ICE agent to gobble it up then they slam the blade down? Do they entice them in by saying there's a brown person on the other side of this contraption, just stick your head in and you'll see him? Then bam! Decapitated!

How exactly did they do it?

Obviously never heard of symbolism have you.

When people burn effigies are they attempting to burn people alive? 

Hey look at these violent right wingers trying to HANG people to death!!! Literally there they are attempting to hang people!

 

If you remember correctly, the morons on the left are still insisting the J6 protestors were trying to hang Mike Pense. 

 

1 hour ago, Chomper Higgot said:

The Brown Shirts didn’t start by killing people.

 

The first  person unalived by the SA was Siegfried Benz in 1932, so they started killing even BEFORE Hitler came to power.

 

To compare the SA to ICE is not tenable. Again, ICE have not killed people, nor do they intimidate political opponents, ICE are immigration and customs enforcement, a very specific branch of law enforcement that has a very specific and limited job, to arrest illegal immigrants. Not at all comparable to what the SA did.

 

This comparison is ludicrous.

30 minutes ago, Yellowtail said:

If you remember correctly, the morons on the left are still insisting the J6 protestors were trying to hang Mike Pense. 

 

That's a logical conclusion since that's what they were saying. It's Pence btw.

7 minutes ago, stevenl said:

That's a logical conclusion since that's what they were saying. It's Pence btw.

In the same way that it is a logical conclusion that violent leftist protestors are attempting to cut the heads off ICE agents in Portland. The are calling them fascists and calling on them to be doxxed, assaulted and killed. 

 

 

1 hour ago, Yellowtail said:

If you remember correctly, the morons on the left are still insisting the J6 protestors were trying to hang Mike Pense. 

 

The difference is they were chanting "Hang Mike Pence". And then your (ex)president said they have a point and he would deserve it. Good way to put out the flames.

2 minutes ago, josephbloggs said:

The difference is they were chanting "Hang Mike Pence". And then your (ex)president said they have a point and he would deserve it. Good way to put out the flames.

In the same way that it is a logical conclusion that violent leftist protestors are attempting to cut the heads off ICE agents in Portland. The are calling them fascists and calling on them to be doxxed, assaulted and killed. 

 

So, the J6 rioters wanted to kill one guy, for a specific act, but the violent leftists want to kill thousands or ICE agents because they are enforcing the law. 

 

Yes, that is a huge difference. 

1 minute ago, Yellowtail said:

In the same way that it is a logical conclusion that violent leftist protestors are attempting to cut the heads off ICE agents in Portland. The are calling them fascists and calling on them to be doxxed, assaulted and killed. 

 

So, the J6 rioters wanted to kill one guy, for a specific act, but the violent leftists want to kill thousands or ICE agents because they are enforcing the law. 

 

Yes, that is a huge difference. 

Okie dokey, whatever you say buddy.

16 hours ago, Mike_Hunt said:

LOL

 

16 hours ago, Mike_Hunt said:

This garbage is like some of the dumbest sophomoric crap I've read yet.

Powerful arguments, hard to disagree!😂

4 hours ago, Yellowtail said:

If you remember correctly, the morons on the left are still insisting the J6 protestors were trying to hang Mike Pense. 

 

That is correct, buddy. The insurrectionist traitors of J6 did indeed want to hang the VP to prevent the legal transfer of power.

It's hard not to think that it should have been them and their leader that should have been swinging that day.

This is getting out of hand. The SA ICE needs to be reined in but with zero grown-ups in the WH and a GOP that almost exclusively consists of pathetic a** kissers that's not going to happen.

 

https://x.com/EdKrassen/status/1973116363247071305

 

 

Officials calling out ICE's unacceptable behaviour. Police Chiefs, Fire Chiefs, no exactly "leftists".

 

https://x.com/Mollyploofkins/status/1973143276103541061

 

https://x.com/MAGACult2/status/1973179868696420703

 

 

Reflect on these wise words from Reagan appointed U.S. District Judge William Young.

 

“ICE goes masked for a single reason — to terrorize Americans into quiescence… To us, masks are associated with cowardly desperados and the despised Ku Klux Klan. In all our history we have never tolerated an armed, masked secret police.”

 

https://x.com/RpsAgainstTrump/status/1973101839437406702

 

 

16 hours ago, still kicking said:

Thanks to Donald Trump, China is now buying their $billions of soybeans from Argentina, and $billions of beef from Australia.

YOU voted for the guy, and are now reaping what you sowed.

 

You couldn't make this up. Trump is bailing out his buddy, The Argentinian president Milei, to the tune of 30 Billion $, who promptly turns around and sells soy beans to China at cut-rate prices, while US farmers can't sell a single bean due to Trumps tariff TACO s*** show, creating what the farmers themselves call farmageddon.

This forces the administration to spend countless billions propping up said farmers using tax dollars!

 

How's all this winning making you feel, MAGA boys?

11 minutes ago, BLMFem said:

You couldn't make this up. Trump is bailing out his buddy, The Argentinian president Milei, to the tune of 30 Billion $, who promptly turns around and sells soy beans to China at cut-rate prices, while US farmers can't sell a single bean due to Trumps tariff TACO s*** show, creating what the farmers themselves call farmageddon.

This forces the administration to spend countless billions propping up said farmers using tax dollars!

 

How's all this winning making you feel, MAGA boys?

 

It's perfectly normal that farmers are subsidised, has been going on for decades. The EU does the same.

 

Stop trying to denigrate everything this great president is doing, just because he's not a shaven headed black lesbian feminist.

11 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

 

It's perfectly normal that farmers are subsidised, has been going on for decades. The EU does the same.

 

Stop trying to denigrate everything this great president is doing, just because he's not a shaven headed black lesbian feminist.

As diversions go that wasn't even close to being your best work, Cam. You seem to reserve that for when you can hate on women.

Just sayin'.

Check this out, peeps.

 

 

On 9/30/2025 at 7:32 AM, BLMFem said:

ICE has become, to all intents and purposes, a wannabe American Gestapo/Stasi/SA, answering only to the wannabe dictator.

 

Or you can also look at it another way. 

 

Would you do a job trying to deal with dangerous criminals where you could be killed?

 

Or what kind of cushy jobs have you had?