41 minutes ago, Sir Dude said:

People get the definition of "fascism" completely wrong these days and have no idea of what it was really like in its hay-day. People these days get called fascist for being center-ground or mildly right, or even slightly to the right of Stalin. Anyone who uses the word "fascist" for anything other than the most extreme of the extreme like ISIS is showing a complete ignorance and misunderstanding of history. People that call others in democratic societies a fascist are usually far-lefties that don't understand what real fascists are. Leaders like Trump or Farage you can have your opinion on, but they are not fascists.

The original "fascist" was Mussolini and his black stirts, not Hitler's Germany, as they were national socialists... I know, kind of an inconvenient truth for many. At the time, fascism was actually quite fashionable and Italy was praised by many for having such an effective system. Hitler's Germany adopted it, but the difference was that the Nazis believed in an Aryan race, and fascism locking in well with that, hence the future killing.

The problem is that the word "fascist" has been popularized and is thrown around so much that most people no longer realise it's true meaning... its meaning and significance has been diminished and trivialized. The closest thing to fascists now is extreme Islamic terrorists like ISIS or somewhere like North Korea. If you want an example of far-left fascism, then look at the Soviet Union under Stalin, the NKVD, 1930s purges, Bolshevics etc. People now have no idea of the terror and suffering inflicted by these 20th century entities compared to society now... it was complete and utter terror and oppression back then, and not even close to the mild stuff we see today.

Wow. Could not get through all this. Actually, Fascim does not need a triesome explaination. It's very simple really.

53 minutes ago, KhunLA said:

Seriously ... mentioning fascist & Adolf, and associated with anything, anyone USA is just retarded.  Poster really loses any respect or remote possibility of having any intelligence.   

 

Have a good day 

BYE BYE

Ok, sorry I don't meet the high standard you have set for intelligece. My bad. Perhaps I will come around to your bat<deleted> crazy thinking. Who knows?

2 hours ago, riclag said:

Who is delegitimizing  the administration and its supporters who won a Election by a landslide with a agenda to mass deport illegals and restore law & order  antifascist while declaring Fascism ?

 

Landslide? Resulting in the knife edge majorities which they hold in Congress, and the slim majority in the overall vote? 

 

Getting around such slim majorities by sending Congress down if inconvenient opposition emerges (votes which may enforce actions which the executive doesn't like) and partisan reactions like refusing to allow a Congresswomen who has won herr seat in a special election because it may affect the result of a vote which the house is procedurally required to hold in the near future.

 

2 hours ago, riclag said:

It gets a little bit tiresome to be called fascists  when the Government is enforcing law made by a Congressional bi partisian effort enacted decades ago.

 

The Congressional bi partisan effort enacted decades ago almost certainly did not envisage nor authorise masked unidentifiable heavily armed militias, midnight raids on entire appartment blocks, and tossing CS gas out of slow moving unmarked cars at protestors; all practices witnessed recently. Nor did it envisage detainees being removed to detention centres in other states, often at the other end of the country,  where they are held incommunicado, where it is made as difficult as possibles for their lawyers to communicate with them to ensure any semblance of due process. It did not envisage masked unidentified men holding sway, dragging spouses from their partners and parents from their children and bundling them into unmarked vehicles.

 

The Congressional bi partisan effort was made in accordance with the provisions of The United States Constitution, provisions which are being regularly ignored and flouted.

 

All basic markers of authoritarian fascism - which is so often hallmarked by twisting legal processes to substantiate the regimes practices.

 

If the reaction to abusing legal processes as is being done so openly and enthusiastically is becoming tiresome, then stop abusing those processes and follow both the spirit and letter of the laws  enacted by that Congressional bi partisan effort.

7 minutes ago, JAG said:

 

Landslide? Resulting in the knife edge majorities which they hold in Congress, and the slim majority in the overall vote? 

 

Getting around such slim majorities by sending Congress down if inconvenient opposition emerges (votes which may enforce actions which the executive doesn't like) and partisan reactions like refusing to allow a Congresswomen who has won herr seat in a special election because it may affect the result of a vote which the house is procedurally required to hold in the near future.

 

 

The Congressional bi partisan effort enacted decades ago almost certainly did not envisage nor authorise masked unidentifiable heavily armed militias, midnight raids on entire appartment blocks, and tossing CS gas out of slow moving unmarked cars at protestors; both practices witnessed recently. Nor did it envisage detainees being removed to detention centres in other states, often at the other end of the country,  where they are held incommunicado, where it is made as difficult as possibles for their lawyers to communicate with them to ensure any semblance of due process. It did not envisage masked unidentified men holding sway.

 

All basic markers of authoritarian fascism - which is so often hallmarked by twisting legal processes to substantiate the regimes practices.

 

If the reaction to abusing legal processes as is being done so openly and enthusiastically is becoming tiresome, then stop abusing those processes and follow both the spirit and letter of the laws  enacted by that Congressional bi partisan effort.

A long post but dead right! Is it possible to get back to the rule of law? Not while Trump is oin charge.

Just now, Des1 said:

A long post but dead right! Is it possible to get back to the rule of law? Not while Trump is oin charge.

Yes it is a long post, but there is an awful lot to cover!

By get "back to rule of law", the left means stop deporting illegal aliens, open the border back up, ignore crime in big cities, let men back into girls' showers and provide free gender reassignment surgeries for prisoners, and let men convicted of sex crimes into women's prisons if they say they are women, and allow violent protestors run wild.  

4 hours ago, Des1 said:

Watching the world’s foremost democratic republic descend into a fascist, authoritarian regime is heart breaking.

Where are you watching this, CNN MSNBC bs outlets?

4 hours ago, Des1 said:

If we recover from this, historians will look back at how it came about, no doubt with references to Hitler’s Germany. History repeating itself is something we hear but don’t believe because we feel we have moved so much forward it could never happen again. I guess not.

Complete utter delusional nonsense, hope you recover from this and it doesn’t happen to you again. Guess not though.

19 minutes ago, JAG said:

Yes it is a long post, but there is an awful lot to cover!

consider your audience .. a waste of effort, maybe?

8 minutes ago, novacova said:

Where are you watching this, CNN MSNBC bs outlets?

Complete utter delusional nonsense, hope you recover from this and it doesn’t happen to you again. Guess not though.

right back at you

 

Musk is definitely a fascist, but, thank god, he is not in charge anymore. Not that he was ever elected into any public office.

1 minute ago, StayinThailand2much said:

Musk is definitely a fascist, but, thank god, he is not in charge anymore.

How do you know, is he still not the puppet master? Or is it Putin or Bibi?

5 minutes ago, Yellowtail said:

How do you know, is he still not the puppet master? Or is it Putin or Bibi?

 

Who knows? According to "The Rest Is Bulls*|!", Bibi seems to be a Vader reincarnation... 😆 

 

2 hours ago, KhunLA said:

From the OP, wasn't sure what country OP was referring to. 

 

Ah ... Just another hate spewing thread about,  USA, Left / Right, (fake fascist/Hitler) thread.   The other 100s simply don't seem to be enough.

 

Got it ... carry on ... 😎

 

So it's ok for you that Nazis are taking over in the US.

 

Very patriotic thinking of yours.

1 hour ago, Yellowtail said:

OMG...another leftist starving for attention...

 

 

  Says the guy with over 27,000 posts.  

 

  Have your "partner" empty the bedpan and get some rest.  

6 minutes ago, Schoggibueb said:

So it's ok for you that Nazis are taking over in the US.

 

Very patriotic thinking of yours.

Nazis are taking over the US ... another idiotic statement from someone who's ignorance shines.

 

Have a nice day

BYE BYE

 

Side note, I'm very patriotic, and the 'system' worked just fine for me.  Understood it, used it, and retired at 45 yrs old.   Land of Opportunity, just need to utilize those opportunities.  

 

Or you can complain & cry all day, work till you keel over, miserable & lonely.  UP2U

7 minutes ago, TheAppletons said:

 

  Says the guy with over 27,000 posts.  

 

  Have your "partner" empty the bedpan and get some rest.  

I don't have a partner, that's more a lefty thing. I'm exit only, 

2 hours ago, Jingthing said:

It doesn't really matter if it's technically fascism or not.

Of course not. 

12 minutes ago, Schoggibueb said:

 

So it's ok for you that Nazis are taking over in the US.

 

Very patriotic thinking of yours.

Where is this happening?

5 hours ago, Des1 said:

Watching the world’s foremost democratic republic descend into a fascist, authoritarian regime is heart breaking. I honestly never thought it could happen. If we recover from this, historians will look back at how it came about, no doubt with references to Hitler’s Germany. History repeating itself is something we hear but don’t believe because we feel we have moved so much forward it could never happen again. I guess not.

 

Fatuous b0llocks.

56 minutes ago, Des1 said:

consider your audience .. a waste of effort, maybe?

Well, if the audience is restricted to those who reply - "the usual suspects" so to say, with varying degrees of frothy mouthedness ( is there such a word?) then perhaps so. But then they dont really read or ponder the post do they, just launch into a tirade, which as I am not particularly "left wing" (as anyone who followd me on the threads pertaining to the UK will know) is rather wasted.

 

I'm not an American, but I follow events worldwide, and the spectacle of the American constitutional and democratic experiment unravelling so quickly is a compelling one, and one with tragic and perhaps undeserved consequences for many.  That is why I comment, in the hope not particularly that people respond, but that, if like me, they are observing and concerned, they consider my points whilst forming their opinions.

 

I certainly dont expect to convert the usual suspects, although it is often illuminating and entertaining to observe their reactions.

1 hour ago, Yellowtail said:

Like all of us. 

Is that what you were hoping? Silly leftist, you have not the power to offend me. 

Now we all know that is a baldfaced lie.😆

23 minutes ago, Yellowtail said:

I don't have a partner, that's more a lefty thing. I'm exit only, 

Buddy, that you're strictly a "number 2" guy is too much information, okay!👍

21 minutes ago, Liverpool Lou said:

Fatuous b0llocks.

I hope you are right.

2 minutes ago, candide said:

Suuure!

One just needs to listen to Trump and his aids to understand that it's the opinions of those on the left that are accompanied by hostility and even hatred! 🤣

That makes no sense at all. Instead of making an epitome of yourself of the quotations of Sowell, try disputing one of them. 

He can't keep getting re-elected. Term limits are written into the Constitution.

1 minute ago, Mark1969 said:

He can't keep getting re-elected. Term limits are written into the Constitution.

 

The loop hole they are looking at relates to....... 'cannot be elected' ..........for a third term!!!!

2 minutes ago, Mark1969 said:

He can't keep getting re-elected. Term limits are written into the Constitution.

But he's a fascist and he's going to get Hegseth kill anyone that gets in his way, except Jimmy Kimmel, Jimmy Kimmel can have his show back, Trump's not THAT much of a fascist 

37 minutes ago, novacova said:

That makes no sense at all. Instead of making an epitome of yourself of the quotations of Sowell, try disputing one of them. 

That's exactly what I did. You didn't even notice it! 

19 minutes ago, candide said:

That's exactly what I did. You didn't even notice it! 

Right, you stepped in it again reenforcing another Sowell quote directed squarely on top of your disposition…

1 hour ago, novacova said:

3)In a sense, the political left’sattempts to silence ideas they cannot, or will not, debate are a confession of intellectual bankruptcy.