1 hour ago, riclag said:

Good for you ,you echo the real threat my country is facing  from  Communist/Socialist/ Anarchist/AntiAmerican  Democratic Socialist groups  . I happen to like a society based on  law & order, merit based system . 

 

"A majority of adherents are anarchists, communists, and other socialists who describe themselves as revolutionaries,^[8] although some social democrats and others on the American Left,^[9] among them environmentalists, LGBT and indigenous rights advocates,^[5] also adhere to the antifa movement".^[8]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antifa_(United_States)

That is a fake quote. If you open the article that is not in it. Just look at the reference numbers, all jumbled up. They're sequential in that, and every other, article.

Liar.

15 hours ago, swissie said:

May I ask humbly, as this may concern every poster here:

 

How many posts of mine here are ending up on some "social media", without me knowing about it?

It might be of interest to ALL posters here. Especially for those that are planning to enter the US, having posted some negative comments about the current administration.
The question: Who can read my posts outside of AN? I think this is a legitimate question, concerning ALL ASEAN NOW contributors.

 

Everyone can read your posts, you don't need to be logged in to read the site. 

 

Dont think that AN won't provide your details to anyone who asks, either. 

Post with multiple links removed

 

One or two links are allowed

 

Eleven is not.

 

@riclag

 

 

7 hours ago, Yagoda said:

Thats how Socialism rolls.

 

Can you name a Socialist country where there is free speech

thailand comes to mind

16 minutes ago, Mavideol said:

thailand comes to mind

Free speech in Thailand? LOL

6 minutes ago, Yagoda said:

Free speech in Thailand? LOL

LOL - a socialist salute = Hitler salute

 

LOL - Nazis = Socialists

 

you are a joke. No wonder you defend Maga and the orange moron in the white house.

 

1 minute ago, Schoggibueb said:

LOL - a socialist salute = Hitler salute

 

LOL - Nazis = Socialists

 

you are a joke. No wonder you defend Maga and the orange moron in the white house.

 

You think there is free speech in Thailand too? LOL

12 minutes ago, Yagoda said:

You think there is free speech in Thailand too? LOL

Whenever you have no counterarguments, you change the subject and use a lot of LOL.

 

Sad - so sad. But you could try to catch up how to communicate when adults are discussing a topic. A bit education is never wrong.

Why should people that are calling for and or applauding the death of Americans be given visas?

 

I despise Obama and his bait-and-switch policies, but if someone was claiming he deserves to die or calling for his death, they should not be given a visa. 

 

If people are going to come into the county and protest, they should not be given a visa. 

 

If people are calling for homosexuals to be thrown from rooftops, they should not be given a visa.

 

If someone is actively anti-capitalist and or a Marxist, they should not be given a visa, 

 

We have enough domestic knuckleheads, we do not need to import more.

 

Time to move the US to the Middle East. They need the money and it can do some good there. 

1 minute ago, Yellowtail said:

Why should people that are calling for and or applauding the death of Americans be given visas?

 

I despise Obama and his bait-and-switch policies, but if someone was claiming he deserves to die or calling for his death, they should not be given a visa. 

 

If people are going to come into the county and protest, they should not be given a visa. 

 

If people are calling for homosexuals to be thrown from rooftops, they should not be given a visa.

 

If someone is actively anti-capitalist and or a Marxist, they should not be given a visa, 

 

We have enough domestic knuckleheads, we do not need to import more.

 

Time to move the US to the Middle East. They need the money and it can do some good there. 

First amendment…

 

But thats not important for „real patriots“.

Do you really understand what you are trying to do to your country?!

Guess not.

2 minutes ago, Schoggibueb said:

First amendment…

The First Amendment applies to American citizens, not to citizens of other countries. 

 

In any event, this would in any way infringe on anyone's free speech, they can continue saying whatever they like, they just can't get a visa to come to the US and say it. 

2 minutes ago, Schoggibueb said:

 

But thats not important for „real patriots“.

The First Amendment is vitally important to a free society, you just do not seem to know what it means, 

2 minutes ago, Schoggibueb said:

Do you really understand what you are trying to do to your country?!

Guess not.

You guess wrong. What I am trying to do to my country, is to have it not be turned into another leftist sh*thole like your country. 

18 minutes ago, Schoggibueb said:

First amendment…

Doesnt apply to visa holders.

3 minutes ago, Yellowtail said:

What I am trying to do to my country, is to have it not be turned into another leftist sh*thole like your country. 

 

Unfortunatley my country isn‘t a „leftist <deleted>hole country“.

 

And no, it‘s not Germany as Yagoda repeats consequently wrong.

Last but not least, the US isn‘t a free society anymore. You have military in your streets, without reason. No riots.

4 hours ago, jayboy said:

 

Absurd comment.There is no connection between the two. The rules on lese majeste are enforced here because of the laws of Thailand and also - I am presuming here - out of respect given our status as guests in this country.There are no agencies monitoring comments posted.

ahh ignorance is bliss

2 minutes ago, Schoggibueb said:

 

Unfortunatley my country isn‘t a „leftist <deleted>hole country“.

 

And no, it‘s not Germany as Yagoda repeats consequently wrong.

Last but not least, the US isn‘t a free society anymore. You have military in your streets, without reason. No riots.

You're Swiss aren't you?

4 minutes ago, Yellowtail said:

You're Swiss aren't you?

Geez, finally. A 10 second search. Compliment - Yagoda never had the skills to try that.

5 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

I suggest you too read the first amendment.

 

I know the text of the First Amendment very well.  U.S. courts have repeatedly held not all speech is protected speech.  Citizens and non-citizens alike can be held criminally responsible for certain types of speech.  But that's not the real issue with visas.  Denying or revoking a visa is not a criminal punishment but an administrative decision that isn't covered by the First Amendment.

 

No foreigner has a Constitutional right to a visa in the U.S.  The government can deny or revoke a visa for any reason it chooses.  It's not more complicated than that.

Just in case anyone is wondering, this is the text of the First Amendment:

 

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

 

The most famous  example  of an exception to First Amendment protection is shouting "Fire" in a crowded theater, but many other exceptions exist:  defamation (libel and slander);  perjury and lying under oath; words used in or integral to the commission of a crime; ch*ld p*rn*graphy;  credible threats and "fighting words;" incitement to imminent violence; and speech which amounts to disorderly conduct.  In modern times,  false advertising; the revelation of confidential financial and medical information; harassment; and some types of personally abusive language have been held not to be protected under the First Amendment.

1 hour ago, Yellowtail said:

Why should people that are calling for and or applauding the death of Americans be given visas?

 

I despise Obama and his bait-and-switch policies, but if someone was claiming he deserves to die or calling for his death, they should not be given a visa. 

 

If people are going to come into the county and protest, they should not be given a visa. 

 

If people are calling for homosexuals to be thrown from rooftops, they should not be given a visa.

 

If someone is actively anti-capitalist and or a Marxist, they should not be given a visa, 

 

We have enough domestic knuckleheads, we do not need to import more.

 

Time to move the US to the Middle East. They need the money and it can do some good there. 

Brilliantly transcribed

45 minutes ago, Evil Penevil said:

 

I know the text of the First Amendment very well.  U.S. courts have repeatedly held not all speech is protected speech.  Citizens and non-citizens alike can be held criminally responsible for certain types of speech.  But that's not the real issue with visas.  Denying or revoking a visa is not a criminal punishment but an administrative decision that isn't covered by the First Amendment.

 

No foreigner has a Constitutional right to a visa in the U.S.  The government can deny or revoke a visa for any reason it chooses.  It's not more complicated than that.

Just in case anyone is wondering, this is the text of the First Amendment:

 

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

 

The most famous  example  of an exception to First Amendment protection is shouting "Fire" in a crowded theater, but many other exceptions exist:  defamation (libel and slander);  perjury and lying under oath; words used in or integral to the commission of a crime; ch*ld p*rn*graphy;  credible threats and "fighting words;" incitement to imminent violence; and speech which amounts to disorderly conduct.  In modern times,  false advertising; the revelation of confidential financial and medical information; harassment; and some types of personally abusive language have been held not to be protected under the First Amendment.

This breakdown on visa rules and free speech is the clearest yet, you slam dunked it mate ! The USA can deny or revoke visas for any reason,at any time, like posts cheering violence (Kirk case, INA 212(a)(3)(B)). 

4 hours ago, mikeymike100 said:

There are throwaway emails, you can get very easily.

If you use it only once and use a vpn it is virtually untraceable!

Thanks for that ! I didn't know.

 

https://temp-mail.org/en/

13 hours ago, riclag said:

This breakdown on visa rules and free speech is the clearest yet, you slam dunked it mate ! The USA can deny or revoke visas for any reason,at any time, like posts cheering violence (Kirk case, INA 212(a)(3)(B)). 

Yes, even if they find out you have lied on a visa application, that was issued, they can revoke it!

3 minutes ago, mikeymike100 said:

Yes, even if they find out you have lied on a visa application, that was issued, they can revoke it!

 

Like Musk did?

13 hours ago, FlorC said:

Thanks for that ! I didn't know.

 

https://temp-mail.org/en/

There is a 10 minute email.........https://10minutemail.com/............

Server wipes email + all data at 10 mins

10MinuteMail policy: "No storage after expiry"

 

• Create: [email protected] (VPN on)
• Use: Sign up somewhere
• 10 mins: POOF—deleted from Earth

No data = no subpoena target. FBI confirmed in 2023 case: "Expired temp emails unrecoverable."

6 minutes ago, Will B Good said:

 

Like Musk did?

Let's see your hard evidence, do you have any?

3 minutes ago, mikeymike100 said:

Let's see your hard evidence, do you have any?

 

DYOR

13 minutes ago, Will B Good said:

 

DYOR

QED

1 hour ago, Will B Good said:

 

DYOR

So you don't have any....I am SHOCKED!!!!

On 10/17/2025 at 1:58 PM, mikeymike100 said:

So you don't have any....I am SHOCKED!!!!

So, we have the <removed> the left now conflating someone that lied on their visa application twenty years ago saying they weren't going to work and did, with someone calling for the eradication of Jews today. 

 

It's now <removed> the left's position, that because someone lied about not working on their visa application twenty years ago and was not deported, it's not fair to deport or refuse a visa to people that are calling for the eradication of the Jews, or that are celebrating the death of Americans.

19 hours ago, Yagoda said:

Free speech in Thailand? LOL

I guess u have been brainwashed and don't understand/detected sarcasm, that's a pity

19 hours ago, Mavideol said:

thailand comes to mind

at least 2 members did catch the sarcasm on the "sarcastic" comment