Just now, Jeff the Chef said:

 None, whatsoever. Has Israel?

In my opinion, Israel responded the way any civilized country would in the face of a terrorist attack that included the capture of hundreds of its citizens as hostages. The fact that the terrorists hide among the civilian population does not mean Israel should be forbidden to respond. The full responsibility for the consequences lies with the Muslim terrorists.

1 minute ago, Jeff the Chef said:

 None, whatsoever. Has Israel?

 

   Yes, Israel has followed the rules, they didn't get found guilty in the Court case .

 To save you postings it :

 'But what about the truck with the flashing lights that got buried in the sand "

 

    That was a one off mistake and the soldiers got punished 

 

 

1 minute ago, Jeff the Chef said:

 

Yes, before the State of Israel was declared/envisaged, I believe the local Jewish population got along quite with there Arab neighbours for hundreds of years.

Wait, what? There have been Jews in the area all along?

 

So how about since then?

14 minutes ago, Jeff the Chef said:

 Convenient. 

But claiming to know everything isn't? Should I pretend I know? 

 

I believe Israel have been mostly compliant and have broken some rules.

 

Civilians being killed collaterally is not a war crime. I have seen no evidence that the IDF is gratuitously killing civilian non-combatants. Do I think there may be a few Israeli soldiers that have? Sure. Do I believe it is the policy of Israel? I do not. 

 

If Isreal actually wanted to eradicate Gaza and the Palestinians, they would have done so in the first six weeks after 10/7. 

 

If Isreal actually wanted to eradicate Gaza and the Palestinians, they would not be attempting to get aid to them and dropping leaflets to warn civilians to evacuate bomb sites. 

 

Why do you seem to ignore all of this?

14 minutes ago, Hellfire said:

In my opinion, Israel responded the way any civilized country would in the face of a terrorist attack that included the capture of hundreds of its citizens as hostages. The fact that the terrorists hide among the civilian population does not mean Israel should be forbidden to respond. The full responsibility for the consequences lies with the Muslim terrorists.

And: "That which gets rewarded gets repeated."

 

If you do not allow combatants to be stuck when they are hiding among civilians, you will have more combatants hiding among civilians. 

 

7 minutes ago, Yellowtail said:

But claiming to know everything isn't? Should I pretend I know? 

 

I believe Israel have been mostly compliant and have broken some rules.

 

Civilians being killed collaterally is not a war crime. I have seen no evidence that the IDF is gratuitously killing civilian non-combatants. Do I think there may be a few Israeli soldiers that have? Sure. Do I believe it is the policy of Israel? I do not. 

 

If Isreal actually wanted to eradicate Gaza and the Palestinians, they would have done so in the first six weeks after 10/7. 

 

If Isreal actually wanted to eradicate Gaza and the Palestinians, they would not be attempting to get aid to them and dropping leaflets to warn civilians to evacuate bomb sites. 

 

Why do you seem to ignore all of this?

 

A bit of light reading for you: https://bearing-witness.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/07/Gaza_English-v6.7.0-5.7.25.pdf

Just now, Jeff the Chef said:

 

A bit of light reading for you: https://bearing-witness.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/07/Gaza_English-v6.7.0-5.7.25.pdf

Pretty weak even by your standards. 

8 hours ago, Jim Blue said:

It's called a two state solution.

Which will never work.

11 minutes ago, Yellowtail said:

I have seen no evidence that the IDF is gratuitously killing civilian non-combatants.

 

   Five posters on ASENNOW keep posting that over and over again .

Isn't that enough evidence ?

Some even shout it 

🙂

48 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

   Yes, Israel has followed the rules, they didn't get found guilty in the Court case .

 To save you postings it :

 'But what about the truck with the flashing lights that got buried in the sand "

 

    That was a one off mistake and the soldiers got punished 

 

 

 

Palestinians have repeatedly paid with their lives, bodies, and land for Israeli impunity which is based on the unconditional backing provided by the US and its European allies.
 

Israel’s refusal to implement the UN resolution is in line with its record in the last seven decades of completely disregarding the international laws and undermining the mandate of multilateral global institutions.

 

https://peoplesdispatch.org/2023/11/22/israel-has-been-above-international-law-ever-since-its-inception/

31 minutes ago, emptypockets said:

Which will never work.

It can work. It can not work in a year or two.

2 minutes ago, Jeff the Chef said:

 

Palestinians have repeatedly paid with their lives, bodies, and land for Israeli impunity which is based on the unconditional backing provided by the US and its European allies.
 

Israel’s refusal to implement the UN resolution is in line with its record in the last seven decades of completely disregarding the international laws and undermining the mandate of multilateral global institutions.

 

https://peoplesdispatch.org/2023/11/22/israel-has-been-above-international-law-ever-since-its-inception/

Long on rhetoric, short on facts. 

 

That you, or some dot-org says something proves nothing.  

39 minutes ago, Yellowtail said:

Pretty weak even by your standards. 

 Try reading it.

3 minutes ago, Jeff the Chef said:

 

Palestinians have repeatedly paid with their lives, bodies, and land for Israeli impunity which is based on the unconditional backing provided by the US and its European allies.

 

   What nonsense .

Israel got prosecuted in International Courts and the actual Palestine war criminals have evaded justice in Court .

Just now, Yellowtail said:

Long on rhetoric, short on facts. 

 

That you, or some dot-org says something proves nothing.  

 

OK, go prove them wrong.

3 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

   What nonsense .

Israel got prosecuted in International Courts and the actual Palestine war criminals have evaded justice in Court .

 

Really, and when was that?

14 minutes ago, Yellowtail said:

It can work. It can not work in a year or two.

Hasn't worked since Israel was created.

15 minutes ago, Jeff the Chef said:

 

Really, and when was that?

 

   

   Are you being serious or are you trolling me ?

You cannot have forgotten about the ICC/ICJ trials last year  bought by South Africa in the Hague 

2 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

   

   Are you being serious or are you trolling me ?

You cannot have forgotten about the ICC/ICJ trials last year  bought by South Africa in the Hague 

 

Seriously, and Israel has complied with all the Provisional Orders, in your opinion, I take it.

 

“Israel’s blatant disregard for the World Court’s order poses a direct challenge to the rules-based international order,” Shakir said. “Failure to ensure Israel’s compliance puts the lives of millions of Palestinians at risk and threatens to undermine the institutions charged with ensuring respect for international law and the system that ensures civilian protection worldwide.”

 

https://www.hrw.org/news/2024/02/26/israel-not-complying-world-court-order-genocide-case

 

Never mind the fact that the final result will probably take years to come out, as you well know.

1 minute ago, Jeff the Chef said:

 

Seriously, and Israel has complied with all the Provisional Orders, in your opinion, I take it.

 

“Israel’s blatant disregard for the World Court’s order poses a direct challenge to the rules-based international order,” Shakir said. “Failure to ensure Israel’s compliance puts the lives of millions of Palestinians at risk and threatens to undermine the institutions charged with ensuring respect for international law and the system that ensures civilian protection worldwide.”

 

https://www.hrw.org/news/2024/02/26/israel-not-complying-world-court-order-genocide-case

 

Never mind the fact that the final result will probably take years to come out, as you well know.

 

    Point being that Israel got prosecuted and Palestine didn't get prosecuted and it is Palestine who have committed numerous war crimes  .

   So , Palestine acts with impunity ,Israel  doesn't

13 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

    Point being that Israel got prosecuted and Palestine didn't get prosecuted and it is Palestine who have committed numerous war crimes  .

   So , Palestine acts with impunity ,Israel  doesn't

 

Palestine's status as a non-member observer state at the UN allows it to participate in ICJ advisory opinions, but not to be prosecuted as a state.

 

Warrants for Hamas leaders: In May 2024, the ICC Prosecutor announced his application for arrest warrants for Hamas leaders Yahya Sinwar, Mohammed Deif, and Ismail Haniyeh for war crimes and crimes against humanity related to the October 7th attack.

A reply to an off topic reference to the Second World War was removed.

8 minutes ago, Jeff the Chef said:

 

Palestine's status as a non-member observer state at the UN allows it to participate in ICJ advisory opinions, but not to be prosecuted as a state.

 

So, Palestine can indeed act with impunity 

 

 

8 minutes ago, Jeff the Chef said:

 

Warrants for Hamas leaders: In May 2024, the ICC Prosecutor announced his application for arrest warrants for Hamas leaders Yahya Sinwar, Mohammed Deif, and Ismail Haniyeh for war crimes and crimes against humanity related to the October 7th attack.

 

 

 Didn't they releases those arrest warrants just after they had died   ?

 

On 10/18/2025 at 10:44 AM, Jeff the Chef said:

Is it time to ask "do you condemn Israel"? 

Israel is old school, I wish Australia was, it's gone soft, wokeish, lefties are in control. 

 

Israel defending itself it retaliated against the evil Hamas. 

 

It's similar to when we were back in school, if you got out of line, acted foolishly, hurt others you'd get a punch in the mouth. You would learn from this, you would think twice next time before doing stupid stuff. 

 

 

 

8 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

So, Palestine can indeed act with impunity 

 

Apparently so.

8 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

Didn't they releases those arrest warrants just after they had died   ?

 

The ICC arrest warrants were issued in May 2024.

 

On 31 July 2024, Ismail Haniyeh, the political leader of Hamas, was assassinated along with his personal bodyguard in the Iranian capital Tehran by an Israeli attack.

On August 1st 2024, Mohammed Deif: Hamas leader Deif was killed in an air strike by Israeli military.

On 16 October 2024, during their operations in the Gaza war, Israel Defense Forces (IDF) troops killed Hamas leader Yahya Sinwar.

On 10/20/2025 at 7:14 AM, Chomper Higgot said:

I’ve not seen any post from you in which you express concern over the killing of innocent children in Gaza.

You are responding to a post in which Yellowtail said he despised the intentional killing of innocent children. Did you miss that? 

 

I am also absolutely against the gratuitous killing of innocent children, in Gaza, or anywhere. 

 

I have not seen any post from you in which you express concern over Hamas operating in schools and hospitals, nor have I seen where you’ve shown any  concern for the Jews killed, or the treatment of the hostages by the Palestinians.

 

I think the Palestinians will be better off without Hamas, do you?

 

That's a big fat NO. Actuality I applaud Israel for their efforts to free the Israeli hostages and eradicate the terrorist Hamas killers. 

1 hour ago, Jeff the Chef said:

 

Apparently so.

 

The ICC arrest warrants were issued in May 2024.

 

On 31 July 2024, Ismail Haniyeh, the political leader of Hamas, was assassinated along with his personal bodyguard in the Iranian capital Tehran by an Israeli attack.

On August 1st 2024, Mohammed Deif: Hamas leader Deif was killed in an air strike by Israeli military.

On 16 October 2024, during their operations in the Gaza war, Israel Defense Forces (IDF) troops killed Hamas leader Yahya Sinwar.

 

 

   The arrest warrants were applied for in May2024 for the Palestinians .

The arrest warrants were never issued , just applied for 

59 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

 

   The arrest warrants were applied for in May2024 for the Palestinians .

The arrest warrants were never issued , just applied for 

Incorrect

Arrest warrants issued for Netanyahu, Gallant and Hamas commander over alleged war crimes

Judges at the International Criminal Court (ICC) have issued arrest warrants for Israel’s prime minister and former defence minister, as well as the military commander of Hamas.

A warrant was also issued for Mohammed Deif of Hamas, although Israel has said he was killed in an air strike in Gaza in July.

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cly2exvx944o

8 minutes ago, vinny41 said:

Incorrect

Arrest warrants issued for Netanyahu, Gallant and Hamas commander over alleged war crimes

Judges at the International Criminal Court (ICC) have issued arrest warrants for Israel’s prime minister and former defence minister, as well as the military commander of Hamas.

A warrant was also issued for Mohammed Deif of Hamas, although Israel has said he was killed in an air strike in Gaza in July.

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cly2exvx944o

 

   That report is from 22 November 2024

Actually, backs up my claim that the arrest warrants for Palestine were issued AFTER they died .

   Thanks 

@Jeff the Chef  ^