3 hours ago, Mark1969 said:

56. I used to bike mountains though. Now it's kind of just "the gym". So I can see it slowing down. Most of the guys I'm referring to are probably about 8 years older then me. I can see not wanting to hit the gym much in another 8 years. More just a pool waddle for some circulation, maybe some stretching.

 

I think success comes to those who can adapt to change .   Altering my diet and type/intensity of exercise in my 60's and now 70's was crucial  .   Again, not easy ..... as one's determination is certainly tested .

I mention "intensity"  because i see /know many that injure themselves trying to "push through"  the pain .    Almost invariably it sets them back .....injuries to the back, knees, hips, shoulders ..etc .

Once my legs started  to feel weak , with knees hurting .... that was the scariest .  Your legs are the foundation .   

good luck ...... stay healthy..... (health is wealth )

8 hours ago, GammaGlobulin said:

 

I do NOT like to look at older men.

 

I prefer to look at younger girls

Oh don't be a sexist !

We all make choices.

We all have biases.

We all have opinions.

 

Other than on anonymous Forums, most opinions are best kept private.

 

Since this is an anonymous Forum.....

 

I've never understood fat. I've never been overweight. I've never been out of shape.

 

I know how much effort, discipline and self-control it takes to maintain fitness and health, but I also know the great benefits of it. I cannot help but lose respect for people who simply refuse to take care of the only body they are ever going to have. If people take the easy way out in one aspect of their life, chances are they will do that in every sphere. Lack of discipline translates across all parts of life, from work to relationships, even to personal finance and budgeting. (Some will disagree, but I bet on average this is correct. The USA, for example, has an epidemic of obesity, debt problems, broken relationships, and poor health....it all stems from the same thing.)

 

The average Western expat in Thailand is obese. Not fat. Obese. They can pretend they're just a little overweight, or claim they are "big boned" or have a different metabolism, but the fact is they are obese, and it is no one's fault but their own. I see these guys waddling around, t-shirt untucked, but unable to mask the bloated belly that has them looking like they're in their 3rd trimester. Spare tires flop to the sides and jiggle as they waddle. Though I'm a liberal, I'm not so woke that I think every body is beautiful. Fat is ugly. Fat-shaming would save lives and make those lives more enjoyable, besides saving money for society. 18% of US GDP is related to healthcare, and the primary reason for that is the fact at least 41% of Americans qualify as obese.

 

Nobody went to bed one night slim, fit and ripped, and woke in the morning looking like a land whale. To look as they do takes years of neglect, rationalization, lack of discipline, lack of self-control, and simple laziness. It cannot be fun to look like that. It cannot be comfortable. With fat comes aches and pains one need not have, as there is extra strain on the joints, ligaments and tendons. The odds soar for Type II diabetes, liver disease, dementia and cancer. Life is shortened, and what life there is, is burdened by body pain or disease.

 

Embark on a health and fitness routine and it becomes habit. If the slacks get a little tight, cut back on meal portions until the tightness is gone. It's not hard. Develop a gym and exercise routine. Make time for it. Everybody has a little free time, so instead of flopping on the sofa and binge watching some banal TV serial or Superhero drivel while scoffing down chips and cookies, use that time to hit the gym.

 

Yes, I'm a bit strident in this regard. I'm also a bit of a fanatic. I'm 2 hours every morning in the gym, 6 days a week, doing both cardio and lifting heavy weights. I average, per DEXA scans, between 8% and 11% body fat, and the six pack and ripped shoulders attest to that. Natty, too, so it's not too bulky. If I'm in a dress shirt, no one would ever guess I bench almost twice my body weight. What I do is likely excessive and not for everyone, but even doing half of what I do will reap benefits that the obese simply cannot imagine.

 

I suspect most people have forgotten what it feels like to feel good. To walk without pain. To roll over easily in bed. To run up the stairs at the BTS to catch the train. To be able to wear the same clothes for as long as the garments last. To stand in front of the mirror after showering and not be embarrassed or ashamed as you towel off.

 

That kind of discipline and self-control will impact every aspect of one's life. You'll bring it to work, you'll bring it to relationships, you'll bring it to everything you do. All of life will be more enjoyable, as everything stems from first feeling good.

 

As for the OP's question....no, don't tell the guy he's a slob. On a one-to-one basis, it's best to keep one's mouth shut (though one cannot help but have an opinion). How society can begin to fix itself is by being critical of all obesity without directing it individually. Fat shame in general, not specifically. It's time to call fat by its name.

 

 

No of course don't tell people.

If they're fat, they already know.

If they're aging badly and have balance troubles, they already know.

Etc. Etc.

Don't be such a rude and crude A-hole.

An exception might be things like people with their flies open in which case they might not know.

Good doctors would be interested in people's gaits for diagnosis and treatment purposes.

7 hours ago, Mark1969 said:

56. I used to bike mountains though. Now it's kind of just "the gym". So I can see it slowing down. Most of the guys I'm referring to are probably about 8 years older then me. I can see not wanting to hit the gym much in another 8 years. More just a pool waddle for some circulation, maybe some stretching.

That's the time when you should be hitting the gym. Lifting weights just makes me feel better, stronger. I shoot for M-F at the gym, I'm nearing 70. 

14 hours ago, georgegeorgia said:

It had large 99 baht breakfast 

 

The 'early bird' price of B99 ends at 1pm.

 

Just be aware. I know you're on a budget.

Why go to the gym? Unless it's 3 km away and you walk/jog there and back.

 

Get into natural health. There is so much out there. No point in becoming a lazy person or/and a fat pig.

 

Lifting weights?! Better things to lift.

30 minutes ago, Stiddle Mump said:

Why go to the gym? Unless it's 3 km away and you walk/jog there and back.

 

Get into natural health. There is so much out there. No point in becoming a lazy person or/and a fat pig.

 

Lifting weights?! Better things to lift.

 

city people ..........

7 hours ago, georgegeorgia said:

I agree 

This is what they need to be told !!!

No, it's rude. No one needs to be told anything about how they live or look to others. It's no one's business but theirs, and they already know full well how they look, as they aren't living on North Sentinel Island without mirrors. Take Folkguitars advice. Stay out of other's way. Don't follow men into bathrooms and ask them personal questions, and keep your opinions to yourself. No one knows when time will finally catch up with them but it always does and we're all humbled, no matter what we looked like, how far we ran or how much we lifted. I don't know you but this is good advice to keep you out of troubble, as you might someday get too personal with someone and they might not walk away.

45 minutes ago, Stiddle Mump said:

Why go to the gym? Unless it's 3 km away and you walk/jog there and back.

 

Get into natural health. There is so much out there. No point in becoming a lazy person or/and a fat pig.

 

Lifting weights?! Better things to lift.

The main reason people should go to a gym is motivation. You see others lifting hard and you'll want to do the same. It's easy to be complacent at home. Walking is a great exercise but resistance exercises are as important. Maintaining muscle by resistance protects your joints and posture, and protects you if you have an illness. 

1 hour ago, fredwiggy said:

The main reason people should go to a gym is motivation. You see others lifting hard and you'll want to do the same. It's easy to be complacent at home. Walking is a great exercise but resistance exercises are as important. Maintaining muscle by resistance protects your joints and posture, and protects you if you have an illness. 

Very few people go to a gym.

 

Tigers don't go to gyms. Nor do wolves or bears. Are they not fit? Nor my cats. They are constantly stretching and doing short sharp intense exercise. For although they have ample biscuit, they do like to chase mice in the field, or birds in the tree. Here are the clues for us to keep in shape. Watch the tiger.

 

Regular stretching. Yoga. Tai Chi and 1000 steps a day.

 

For people who are weight challenged in Pattaya; I suggest the following. Go out before 8 in the morning with a couple of bottles of water. No food. No money. No ATM card. Take a walk up the hill where the big metal letters are; over looking the bay. Do this every other day. On the days when there is no big walk; stretch those muscles.

 

The weight will fall off.

3 hours ago, roger buttmore said:

 

The 'early bird' price of B99 ends at 1pm.

 

Just be aware. I know you're on a budget.

11am actually 

 

Ok 

Your ALL forgot that once you get past 60 your body tells you not to go to the gym

 

I'm going to be honest with you 

 

My energy levels as I get older are NOT the same as before so hitting the gym in your 60's a few times a week is not easy 

I went for a 3 hour workout in Tony's last month 

I couldn't go to the gym for 4 days after 

 

Many older men lose their energy 

 

It becomes hard, it becomes  painful .....to go to the gym 

It's true 

Very true 

22 minutes ago, georgegeorgia said:

Ok 

Your ALL forgot that once you get past 60 your body tells you not to go to the gym

 

I'm going to be honest with you 

 

My energy levels as I get older are NOT the same as before so hitting the gym in your 60's a few times a week is not easy 

I went for a 3 hour workout in Tony's last month 

I couldn't go to the gym for 4 days after 

 

Many older men lose their energy 

 

It becomes hard, it becomes  painful .....to go to the gym 

It's true 

Very true 

There's something I don't like about Thai gym's. I just use mine at the condo because it's usually empty.

 

I walked by one of those modern gym's in Pattaya the other day and a bunch of younger Thai guys all turned around and glared at me when I looked in to check it out. I did not even go inside. It reminded me of cliquey stuff in high school. I also think a lot of them are gay.

1 hour ago, Stiddle Mump said:

Very few people go to a gym.

 

Tigers don't go to gyms. Nor do wolves or bears. Are they not fit? Nor my cats. They are constantly stretching and doing short sharp intense exercise. For although they have ample biscuit, they do like to chase mice in the field, or birds in the tree. Here are the clues for us to keep in shape. Watch the tiger.

 

Regular stretching. Yoga. Tai Chi and 1000 steps a day.

 

For people who are weight challenged in Pattaya; I suggest the following. Go out before 8 in the morning with a couple of bottles of water. No food. No money. No ATM card. Take a walk up the hill where the big metal letters are; over looking the bay. Do this every other day. On the days when there is no big walk; stretch those muscles.

 

The weight will fall off.

Millions go to gyms. Animals don't have a need as they live in the wild and have to work for their food. Some domestic animals aren't fed properly and get fat. The more percentage of muscle your body has, the better it burns calories, so weight or resistance lifting is ne3cessary to maintain that muscle. It's easy to lose weight if you have the desire and understand what's necessary. People love to eat, but you don't indulge all the time as that's how you store excess fat. The keys are movement and diet, a healthy lifestyle. No gimmicks.

29 minutes ago, Mark1969 said:

There's something I don't like about Thai gym's. I just use mine at the condo because it's usually empty.

 

I walked by one of those modern gym's in Pattaya the other day and a bunch of younger Thai guys all turned around and glared at me when I looked in to check it out. I did not even go inside. It reminded me of cliquey stuff in high school. I also think a lot of them are gay.

The gym is for anyone to use. All kinds. You go there for you. It doesn't matter who looks at you as most of the people who use gyms are out of shape anyway. I've been in gyms 50 years and never had any problems. Looks every time. You work out you get respect. I've had 3 leave me notes in my locker asking for certain things, but ignoring gives them the hint. 

53 minutes ago, georgegeorgia said:

Ok 

Your ALL forgot that once you get past 60 your body tells you not to go to the gym

 

I'm going to be honest with you 

 

My energy levels as I get older are NOT the same as before so hitting the gym in your 60's a few times a week is not easy 

I went for a 3 hour workout in Tony's last month 

I couldn't go to the gym for 4 days after 

 

Many older men lose their energy 

 

It becomes hard, it becomes  painful .....to go to the gym 

It's true 

Very true 

If you're a gym person, you don't forget to stay that way, until your last day on earth. I can't lift near what I used to but it doesn't matter as the main thing is maintaining a healthy lifestyle. You stop moving you die. No one can work out 3 hours if your intensity level is high. All you need is an hour. 

33 minutes ago, Mark1969 said:

I also think a lot of them are gay.

 

A fit gay would prolly beat yo azzz tho , just step to Jingthing and find out.

 

 

10 hours ago, fredwiggy said:

The gym is for anyone to use. All kinds. You go there for you. It doesn't matter who looks at you as most of the people who use gyms are out of shape anyway. I've been in gyms 50 years and never had any problems. Looks every time. You work out you get respect. I've had 3 leave me notes in my locker asking for certain things, but ignoring gives them the hint. 

Do you get the feeling that most of the younger fit Thai guys in, for example, a modern gym in Pattaya or Bangkok are gay?

 

I can't shake the feeling, but maybe it's just them acting different then someone would in the USA.

12 hours ago, fredwiggy said:

I've had 3 leave me notes in my locker asking for certain things, but ignoring gives them the hint. 

To meet in the toilets ?

Must of seen you on ya knees doing exercises 

Disgusting !

 

2 hours ago, Mark1969 said:

Do you get the feeling that most of the younger fit Thai guys in, for example, a modern gym in Pattaya or Bangkok are gay?

 

I can't shake the feeling, but maybe it's just them acting different then someone would in the USA.

No I don't believe so 

I went to a modern gym last month on Pattaya called ELITE ,300 baht a visit 

The Thai guys all wanted to look the image of the modern Instagrammer 

Tribal tattoo on arms , singlets with  tight shorts and Red Nikes carrying man bags 

22 minutes ago, georgegeorgia said:

No I don't believe so 

I went to a modern gym last month on Pattaya called ELITE ,300 baht a visit 

The Thai guys all wanted to look the image of the modern Instagrammer 

Tribal tattoo on arms , singlets with  tight shorts and Red Nikes carrying man bags 

 

Did you give of gay vibes and stare down Mark1969 as he walked past the gym during your glute workout ?

18 hours ago, Stiddle Mump said:

Why go to the gym? Unless it's 3 km away and you walk/jog there and back.

 

Get into natural health. There is so much out there. No point in becoming a lazy person or/and a fat pig.

 

Lifting weights?! Better things to lift.

This is your guy, hear him out

 

 

4 hours ago, georgegeorgia said:

No I don't believe so 

I went to a modern gym last month on Pattaya called ELITE ,300 baht a visit 

The Thai guys all wanted to look the image of the modern Instagrammer 

Tribal tattoo on arms , singlets with  tight shorts and Red Nikes carrying man bags 

That's the one I walked past...

They were all standing around in the lobby watching for people coming in...

18 hours ago, georgegeorgia said:

Ok 

Your ALL forgot that once you get past 60 your body tells you not to go to the gym

 

I'm going to be honest with you 

 

My energy levels as I get older are NOT the same as before so hitting the gym in your 60's a few times a week is not easy 

I went for a 3 hour workout in Tony's last month 

I couldn't go to the gym for 4 days after 

 

Many older men lose their energy 

 

It becomes hard, it becomes  painful .....to go to the gym 

It's true 

Very true 

Well, stop doing it.

4 hours ago, georgegeorgia said:

To meet in the toilets ?

Must of seen you on ya knees doing exercises 

Disgusting !

 

Toilets seem to be one of your favourite destinations.

5 hours ago, georgegeorgia said:

To meet in the toilets ?

Must of seen you on ya knees doing exercises 

Disgusting !

 

Think again

7 hours ago, Mark1969 said:

Do you get the feeling that most of the younger fit Thai guys in, for example, a modern gym in Pattaya or Bangkok are gay?

 

I can't shake the feeling, but maybe it's just them acting different then someone would in the USA.

More curious about us

On 10/19/2025 at 7:35 PM, Dan O said:

I think this is just another wind up trolling post.

Would expect nothing less from this grub.

4 hours ago, Mark1969 said:

That's the one I walked past...

They were all standing around in the lobby watching for people coming in...

Stick to universe gym