1 hour ago, KhunBENQ said:

Did my retirement extension in KK on Oct 8.

(I am married)

The hassle with Bangkok Bank was terrible, raising cortisol level.

Never again. On Monday I will close fixed deposit at BBL and move money to Kasikorn.

(BTW: quite nice that web-banking still exists, 500k transfer like a breeze, did one already)

Now I am thinking whether to continue with income method or play the 800k card?

Next week in Pattaya I will open fixed deposit with Kasikorn (where I have a savings account since 2009). Useful anyway after some money flown in from gold selling.

And yes, KK usually easy and quick. Fastest retirement extension was about 20 min in/out.

No appointment, no queue... no 5 AM travel..

Yep - I think all Expats should quit using Bangkok Bank - they are clearly insane in what they are doing. 

5 minutes ago, atpeace said:

 

Told Liquorice the same thing months back and he didn't believe me.  Many offices don't require a 12 month statement. In 25 years maybe I've been asked for on but can't remember.  I just show up with my bank book and bank cert letter now and haven't had a problem.  This fact riles a couple regular posters here for some reason.  If you showup with a bank book with a few transaction over a twelve month period as many just use the account for their visa only, immigration probably would ask for more info ( i.e., 12 month statement).

Yeh - I think he is saying that the official rules are correct. But the reality in Thailand is that the locals decide what the rules are, and often make up their own rules.  Here in KK it is 3 months before and 3 months afterwards - because that is what they decided. 

2 hours ago, TroubleandGrumpy said:

Wrong. 

List of documents for Retirement Visa | Samut Prakan Immigration

https://www.samutprakanimmigration.go.th/list-of-documents-for-retirement-visa/

 

Correct, there was a thread on here before from a poster who had the money in the bank for 2 months and SP would not give him an extension. I asked them about it before- still three months there.

I changed fom retirement to marriage extension for one reason only.

I arrived on an OA visa, cannot qualify for the health insurance, now required, for age and medical reasons, and similarly cannot travel out to return to qualify for the O.  Money has never been the problem.

6 hours ago, TroubleandGrumpy said:

Wrong. 

List of documents for Retirement Visa | Samut Prakan Immigration

https://www.samutprakanimmigration.go.th/list-of-documents-for-retirement-visa/

 

TOURIST VISA EXTENSION.

 

You cannot apply for a 1 year extension from a VE or TV entry.
That resembles a poor attempt to write the procedure and requirements for the Non O visa.
Until recently, I think it was Jomtien required 3 months @800K to qualify.

 

Anyway, different Immigration office and not procedure for a 1 year extension.

7 hours ago, TroubleandGrumpy said:

Surely you know I cannot believe a bloke on AN and not believe an IO? 

Yet you believe an IO when he states 'extend visa' ?

19 minutes ago, Liquorice said:

Anyway, different Immigration office and not procedure for a 1 year extension.

Indeed. 

Fact is some immigration offices have rogue requirements. 

For extension retirement it's TWO months prior 800k. 

There are (fortunately) only couple of nonsense offices that impose their own rules. 

Everyone needs to be aware of their particular office nonsense. 

Thinking Samui is maybe another requiring 3 month seasoning. 

Fact is for the other 75+ offices that is not the case. 

Rule is 800k two months prior to application. 

 

16 hours ago, Liquorice said:

 

TOURIST VISA EXTENSION.

You cannot apply for a 1 year extension from a VE or TV entry.
That resembles a poor attempt to write the procedure and requirements for the Non O visa.
Until recently, I think it was Jomtien required 3 months @800K to qualify.

 

Anyway, different Immigration office and not procedure for a 1 year extension.

Listen closely - the Retirement Extension instructions are in-between parts of others - please read again.

 

Whatever KK Immigration decides IS the extension process - the stamps in my Passport prove that. 

16 hours ago, Liquorice said:

Yet you believe an IO when he states 'extend visa' ?

I certainly do not believe you.

 

Plus I shortened the term - Extension of Stay for 12 months under original Non-Immigration O-Visa.  As everyone knows.

 

Stop being obtuse and argumentative - there is no right and wrong - there is only what each Province Office decides.

Oh wait let me say that again - There is only what each Provincial Office of the Immigration Police decides.

 

16 hours ago, DrJack54 said:

Indeed. 

Fact is some immigration offices have rogue requirements. 

For extension retirement it's TWO months prior 800k. 

There are (fortunately) only couple of nonsense offices that impose their own rules. 

Everyone needs to be aware of their particular office nonsense. 

Thinking Samui is maybe another requiring 3 month seasoning. 

Fact is for the other 75+ offices that is not the case. 

Rule is 800k two months prior to application. 

 

Yes indeed there are rules and then there are whatever the local Office decides. Which is why I went into the Office a few weeks before to ask for exactly what there Retirement Extension process is. 

 

I know @Liquorice thinks if he took a copy of the Official Head Office regulations and pointed out where they are wrong, that they would immediately change their processes and admit they made several mistakes - but we all know that in reality that would never happen and Liqy's application would be rejected and he would be thrown out on his butt. 

16 hours ago, DrJack54 said:

Indeed. 

Fact is some immigration offices have rogue requirements. 

For extension retirement it's TWO months prior 800k. 

There are (fortunately) only couple of nonsense offices that impose their own rules. 

Everyone needs to be aware of their particular office nonsense. 

Thinking Samui is maybe another requiring 3 month seasoning. 

Fact is for the other 75+ offices that is not the case. 

Rule is 800k two months prior to application. 

 

Plus I will also point out that all Immigration Offices require a bank statement/letter - and that Bangkok Bank has decided 4 months before letter/certificate or the amount is locked in for 4 months afterwards. Because it is a requirement to comply with Immigration rules for extensions, whatever any bank imposes upon proving their letter/certificate is also a requirement for obtaining an Extension.  Expats with upcoming Extension dates should check with both the local Immigration Office for what their current rules are, and also with their bank too.  

22 hours ago, KhunBENQ said:

On Monday I will close fixed deposit at BBL and move money to Kasikorn.

(BTW: quite nice that web-banking still exists, 500k transfer like a breeze, did one already)

Now I am thinking whether to continue with income method or play the 800k card?

Next week in Pattaya I will open fixed deposit with Kasikorn

 

You'll have to do the transfer to fixed in person at KBank.

 

BBL allows you to deposit directly into your fixed account online and with the app.  (Withdraw in person only.)

 

KBank wants us foreigners to use the app.  I set up fixed and savings last month, got app loaded into the phone, no online offered.

 

With KBank app, fixed accounts are not displayed, and no way to deposit funds.  You can not directly check the balance of your fixed account, but have to calculate it from your total investment, manually subtracting your savings account(s).

 

You will have to transfer the funds from BBL to your Kbank savings (online or app), and then visit your Kbank branch in person to move the 800K from savings to fixed.

 

In case you're moving to a new location, if you do the KBank transfer outside your local branch province, you'll pay a fee to withdraw and a fee to deposit.  Total will be around 3,000 baht.

2 hours ago, TroubleandGrumpy said:

Stop being obtuse and argumentative - there is no right and wrong - there is only what each Province Office decides.

Oh wait let me say that again - There is only what each Provincial Office of the Immigration Police decides.

Confused.
If every Immigration has different requirements, and you apply at KK, what purpose does posting an ambiguously worded document from Samut Prakhan prove?
That document has even the best of us wondering what it's referring to, at best guess applying for a Non O visa from a VE/TV entry.

1 hour ago, Liquorice said:

Confused.
If every Immigration has different requirements, and you apply at KK, what purpose does posting an ambiguously worded document from Samut Prakhan prove?
That document has even the best of us wondering what it's referring to, at best guess applying for a Non O visa from a VE/TV entry.

 

SP want money in the bank for 3 months not 2 for a retirement extension, got mine a few weeks ago and it is still 3 months. 

1 hour ago, proton said:

 

SP want money in the bank for 3 months not 2 for a retirement extension, got mine a few weeks ago and it is still 3 months. 

So to be clear.... You are doing ongoing extensions based on retirement using money in the bank method at SP. 

What exactly did your bank book or 12 month  bank statement show. 

 

4 minutes ago, DrJack54 said:

So to be clear.... You are doing ongoing extensions based on retirement using money in the bank method at SP. 

What exactly did your bank book or 12 month  bank statement show. 

 

 

Over 800k in the bank all year so it never affects me, but I have asked them and they confirmed it has to be in for 3 months

4 hours ago, proton said:

 

SP want money in the bank for 3 months not 2 for a retirement extension, got mine a few weeks ago and it is still 3 months. 

Point is OP applies at Khon Kaen, not SP.

So what relevance has the screenshot from SP got to do with it.
 

If you entered on a Non O visa based on retirement, opened a bank account, transferred 800K, how on earth could you apply for an extension if the funds have to be in the bank for 3 months beforehand?

4 hours ago, Liquorice said:

 

If you entered on a Non O visa based on retirement, opened a bank account, transferred 800K, how on earth could you apply for an extension if the funds have to be in the bank for 3 months beforehand?

 

My understanding (could be wrong)

 

Enter on an O visa/open account, move 800k in, maintain that for 2 months before first extension then for three months after first extension...... three months before 2nd extension make sure you have 800k in for that extension.

On 10/24/2025 at 4:06 PM, Bredbury Blue said:

On 10/24/2025 at 2:54 PM, OJAS said:

 

The IO was talking through their derriere, I think. No problem for those applying for a marriage extension to seek a re-entry permit covering their 30-day "under consideration" period - provided, of course, that they were back in Thailand by the time this period (and, indeed, the related re-entry permit) expired.

 

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I'm pretty sure that i exited and returned during the 30 day "under consideration" period on my re-entry permit.

 

Yes, I have done an out/in during the "under review" window using a re-entry permit. This was Udon Thani immigration about 7 years ago.

 

In the grand scheme of things, the specifics of the above information is worthless as they can, will and do make it up as they go along.

 

Good luck to all those tip-toeing through their local immigration extension minefield.

7 hours ago, Liquorice said:

Point is OP applies at Khon Kaen, not SP.

So what relevance has the screenshot from SP got to do with it.
 

If you entered on a Non O visa based on retirement, opened a bank account, transferred 800K, how on earth could you apply for an extension if the funds have to be in the bank for 3 months beforehand?

 

I did not bring it up, just confirming what was posted about it. You don't enter on a non O visa based on retirement, you enter on a non immigrant O multi entry, transfer the money and later apply for the extension when the 3 months is up. 

6 hours ago, proton said:

You don't enter on a non O visa based on retirement, you enter on a non immigrant O multi entry, transfer the money and later apply for the extension when the 3 months is up. 

Multiple entry Non O is no longer available and the point he was making is that entry on a Non O provides a 90 day stamp. 

Current thread running of chap obtaining a Non O eVisa. 

Plans to enter Thailand open Thai bank a/c and then extension. 

He will season the funds for two months then obtain the extension. 

He wouldn't even have enough time on his stamp to season 800k for 3 months. 

 

Hopefully he won't apply at rogue office such as KK or SP where they make up rules

 

9 hours ago, Sully_ said:

 

My understanding (could be wrong)

 

Enter on an O visa/open account, move 800k in, maintain that for 2 months before first extension then for three months after first extension...... three months before 2nd extension make sure you have 800k in for that extension.

Your understanding is correct as per Immigration Orders.

My reply was to Proton who stated Samut Prakhan Immigration required 3 months before.

If you entered on a Non O, opened a bank account, transferred funds, it would be impossible to season funds for 3 months.

 

Old previous orders required 3 month seasoning, except for the first application which only required 2 months seasoning.

21 hours ago, Liquorice said:

Confused.
If every Immigration has different requirements, and you apply at KK, what purpose does posting an ambiguously worded document from Samut Prakhan prove?
That document has even the best of us wondering what it's referring to, at best guess applying for a Non O visa from a VE/TV entry.

 

Last ever reply to you mate - I do this for others to read the answer.

 

The attachment from SP Offices proved that some other Offices (not just KK) also demand 3 months in a bank account.

 

Stay confused away from me - blocked (and in other forum) - go troll others. 

8 hours ago, proton said:

 

I did not bring it up, just confirming what was posted about it. You don't enter on a non O visa based on retirement, you enter on a non immigrant O multi entry, transfer the money and later apply for the extension when the 3 months is up. 

 

 

To clarify......enter on Non-Imm '0' visa obtained in your home country - and based on retirement criteria. 

 

Season monies for 2 months and apply for a 12 month extension during the final month of validity of your permission to stay.

2 hours ago, hotandsticky said:

To clarify......enter on Non-Imm '0' visa obtained in your home country - and based on retirement criteria. 

 

Season monies for 2 months and apply for a 12 month extension during the final month of validity of your permission to stay.

You can't if the IO insist on 3 months seasoning to apply for an annual extension, as Proton stated about SP.

On 10/25/2025 at 2:28 PM, TroubleandGrumpy said:

Yes indeed - the monthly income method is a much easier option for most Expats on a retirement Visa because they can spend any/all of that money each month. 

 

You may recall a year ago that we discussed my 'home visit' experience on AN and I swore then never to let that happen again.  The previous home visit in another Province was fine - quick and easy and polite.  But here in KK last year it was atrocious. We had to obtain two witnesses who not only had to sign paperwork, they had to participate in what can only be described as a 15-20 minute lecture by a small pen**ed tiny-brained tin-pot General wannabe who spoke in Thai only.  To say it took a lot of self control not to stand up and throw the little ar****ole out of the house, as he lectured my wife and the witnesses, is an understatement. I promised back then to give the details of how the retirement extension process went, and aside from the bank problems, it was brilliant. 

I have had two home visits in my 36 years of living in Chiang Mai and they were not unpleasant at all.

People with retirement visas keep mentioning the additional paperwork required to get a marriage extension over retirement visa, and home visits.

ALL the documents I provide for my marriage extension each year are the exact same documents I provided each previous year (so no hassles there), except for the only new documents I provide which are:

a new Kor ror22,

new photos (taken with my camera, stuck in Word and printed), and,

new bank letter, statement.

Never had a home visit in the +20 years been doing marriage extension (had non-B before that).