26 minutes ago, richard_smith237 said:

 

The way you write about this stuff is creepy and lecherous...  

 

 

It's pretty funny. 

The guy's an amateur Danielle Steel. 

1 minute ago, marin said:

Telling. You live in Lanna land Chiang Mai and dont know what khao soi is? Seriously wow!!

 

Well, it won't be the first thing he's completely ignorant of....

19 minutes ago, richard_smith237 said:

 

Attempt to polish the 'sex worker' lable as much as you like...    she has highlighted very clearly that she's with him 'just for money'...   white-wash it, re-name it how you like...  there is no stepping away from the fact that this girl is 'pay for play'....   

 

 

If she does "take the job"  (with Cam) ........ it won't last long .  Guarantee .....

2 minutes ago, richard_smith237 said:

On one side, you’ve got people who meet at work, at uni, through friends or introductions - and they grow close because of genuine attraction.

 

 

Yes, that's the ideal way to meet.

Many people retired here do not work, cannot meet a woman at the office. 

But that's the main problem -- meeting girls on dating apps may be a bad idea and it's better to try to meet someone through social networks, but not everyone has a large social network.

Maybe some of the girls on dating apps are wheeling and dealing too much. 

I wonder if foreigners not living in Thailand are on those apps and contacting these girls and giving them money when they come to Thailand. 

 

 

31 minutes ago, save the frogs said:

 

No, I have met non sex workers asking for that or more.

1 - Women do not have as many high paying job options as in the west. Many jobs don't pay well.

2 - Divorce rates are high and there are many single mothers who need to raise children. And if they are from poor families, they also need to support their parents.

3 - Many women are in serious debt. Not sure about many, but I've met more than one. So you are inheriting these debts when you get hitched up. 

 

If you can marry a middle class Thai, pat yourself on the back. Then you may not need to offer 20K/month or more. 

 

It's only on AN for some reason that nobody ever needs to pay their gf wife anything. 

 

 

 

How much do you pay per month ?  Is it a set, agreed upon amount ?

 

asking for a friend ..........

29 minutes ago, save the frogs said:

If you can marry a middle class Thai, pat yourself on the back. Then you may not need to offer 20K/month or more. 

 

It's only on AN for some reason that nobody ever needs to pay their gf wife anything. 

 

Do you really think everyone on AN is secretly bankrolling a destitute girlfriend and pretending otherwise?

 

Or is it more likely that the men who aren’t paying their girlfriend or wife simply met someone from within their own socio-economic circle?

 

I’ve said this before: everyone I know is in a mutually respectful relationship with a woman from a similar socio-economic and educational background. Maybe that’s easier to find in Bangkok than in other towns or cities. And the age gaps are smaller, too. Most of the people I know in those stable relationships were already in Thailand long before retirement - working here, building a life, and naturally meeting their partners earlier on.

 

If an older man comes to Thailand in retirement, is looking for a much younger partner, then yes, he may have to compromise on education, socio-economic standing - and that usually means he’ll be financially supporting her... No judgement - but don't dress the relationships up as being the same - they are not.

 

 

 

 

7 minutes ago, marin said:

Telling. You live in Lanna land Chiang Mai and dont know what khao soi is? Seriously wow!!  Go buy it for her, you cant make it. 

 

The quote is Cameroni's not Rumak, I think forum software glitch. 

 

actually it was a satirical post of mine (rumak) ........ can be found on page 100.

 

(satirical..... but also prophetic )😉

7 minutes ago, rumak said:

28 minutes ago, richard_smith237 said:

 

Attempt to polish the 'sex worker' lable as much as you like...    she has highlighted very clearly that she's with him 'just for money'...   white-wash it, re-name it how you like...  there is no stepping away from the fact that this girl is 'pay for play'....   

 

 

If she does "take the job"  (with Cam) ........ it won't last long .  Guarantee .....

 

She’s asked for 20,000 baht, but he doesn’t want to pay that and is only offering 12,000 baht.

 

She’ll take money up front, stay for a short while, then start looking for someone else online.

 

Eventually, she’ll invent an excuse to return to Phuket to meet this “other guy” and the cycle will repeat.

 

Cameroni simply doesn’t realise he was the 'new option' - the 10,000 baht she was getting from her ex wasn’t enough, and 12,000 baht won’t satisfy her either. She’ll soon be back to “shopping around”

 

The next red flag: Cameroni checks her phone and finds Tinder or ThaiFriendly re-installed.

She’ll withhold affection and sex until he starts playing by her rules.

 

10 minutes ago, richard_smith237 said:

 

She’s asked for 20,000 baht, but he doesn’t want to pay that and is only offering 12,000 baht.

 

She’ll take money up front, stay for a short while, then start looking for someone else online.

 

Eventually, she’ll invent an excuse to return to Phuket to meet this “other guy” and the cycle will repeat.

 

Cameroni simply doesn’t realise he was the 'new option' - the 10,000 baht she was getting from her ex wasn’t enough, and 12,000 baht won’t satisfy her either. She’ll soon be back to “shopping around”

 

The next red flag: Cameroni checks her phone and finds Tinder or ThaiFriendly re-installed.

She’ll withhold affection and sex until he starts playing by her rules.

 

 

I agree.  He's toast !    lol

Don't waste anymore time.

 

Get her on a flight this afternoon.

1 hour ago, richard_smith237 said:

 

There it is...    the "pay me or I go work in a bar" - response....  

 

Shes not a bar girl, though, right ???  

Come on, she only said she is considering trying it if he doesn't pay. She's definitely not one, no siree, no way, just considering it.

She's investung some of her time to sign the OP up as a sponsor, among her other sponsors.

 

If he refuses, she'll be gone. If he accepts, she'll come and go in between servicing her other sponsors.

 

She's an economy version of CM girl, but does exactly the same thing to make a living. 

6 minutes ago, Lightyear said:

She's investung some of her time to sign the OP up as a sponsor, among her other sponsors.

 

If he refuses, she'll be gone. If he accepts, she'll come and go in between servicing her other sponsors.

 

She's an economy version of CM girl, but does exactly the same thing to make a living. 

As he has said many times with many girls.  "But but but, she's different."

When does the Filipina virgin arrive?

Can't wait for the next chapter in this marathon.

4 minutes ago, emptypockets said:

When does the Filipina virgin arrive?

Can't wait for the next chapter in this marathon.

The OP is either a complete clown or the best troll on the site  ever.

1 hour ago, rumak said:

OK, Richard..... you might as well know ,  Rumak is different 😊.    I was married 38 years ago , to someone working in a bookstore.  She did graduate from Ramk. and could have waited for a teaching job.   Her family was not wealthy.... but they were good people.

 

It lasted quite a long time..... but i opted out .   My "new"  gf of ten years grew up in a small verrrry poor village,  and she was walking the buffalo out to the fields , and plowing by the age of 10. For breakfast, and lunch , a fried egg, sticky rice and prik dta dang  Her story of slowly working her way up, 2 jobs,  adult weekend classes, and finally getting a clerical job at a University is amazing.

She is the hardest working and good natured person I ever met .   Still simple girl, with many talents.    I lucked out .  This fits me better than the "higher socio-economic" types. 

 

It sounds great, but the key factor in your relationship isn’t that you’ve “paid her to be with you.” The real foundations are attraction and mutual respect - a completely different dynamic from a relationship born out of a financial transaction or an expected one.

 

Some posters suggest a “sliding scale”...  arguing that paying for sex or supporting a “paid-for girlfriend” is essentially the same as giving a housewife, the mother of your children, money to cover household costs, buy things for herself, or pay the mortgage and holidays.

 

The truth is, the difference is night and day.

 

In your case, it’s clear your lady is with you for you, not because of what’s in your wallet. That’s the key distinction.

 

I mentioned similar socio-economic backgrounds because that’s what I’ve observed in successful Bangkok relationships - but more importantly, it should be about “comparable moral standards”...

 

 

 

It’s tricky to make these points without sounding judgmental, and I don’t intend to judge.

 

If I were a 65-year-old single man with plenty of money and found someone attractive who was financially struggling, I’d want to help out too. But I’d have no illusions that such a relationship is “normal” in the traditional sense. I’d understand that if the financial arrangement changed, so would the dynamic - and I’d likely find myself single again.

 

This is where some posters are mistaken. They assume that providing financial support doesn’t alter the dynamic. In reality, in relationships where financial support is requested, demanded, or expected, the monetary aspect becomes the primary dynamic. Everything else - affection, attention, companionship - is essentially window dressing, no matter how uncomfortable that truth may be for some to accept.

 

And this is where Cameroni is highlighting an extreme degree of naïvety and blindness - he believes 'feelings' are involved on her part - where she 'feels' for him, when in reality, she 'feels' for her financial security. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

35 minutes ago, Lightyear said:

She's investung some of her time to sign the OP up as a sponsor, among her other sponsors.

 

If he refuses, she'll be gone. If he accepts, she'll come and go in between servicing her other sponsors.

 

She's an economy version of CM girl, but does exactly the same thing to make a living. 

 

Nooo...  haven't you read any of the 'facts' the Op has provided ???

 

Phuket girl is honest.

Phuket girl has only ever had 3 sexual partners.

Phuket girl has never worked in a bar (is not pay for play).

 

These are facts - because she told him so...  

When she compared her 62 year old punter to you, in terms of boom boom frequency Vs money, that surely must tell you what she really is.

 

Call Air Asia, get her out asap & the FV in.

28 minutes ago, emptypockets said:

When does the Filipina virgin arrive?

Can't wait for the next chapter in this marathon.

 

She'll rock up carrying an STD !!!  or pregnant and claiming its his !!! 

So major plot twist.

 

Phuket girl has come clean.

 

She's not living with her sister in Phuket. Her sister is not a bar girl, but lives in Sisaket.

 

Phuket Girl was living with her Austrian ex in Phuket.

 

She wanted out, so she came to me.

 

She's still asking 20000. It's not unreasonable, she's worth it. 

 

The problem I have is the 62 year old was paying 10000. I should get a discount.

3 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

Phuket Girl was living with her Austrian ex in Phuket.

This should perhaps read "Phuket Girl was servicing her sponsor, who thinks she's busy <insert story here>, while she's over here signing me up to her sponsor list."

 

Seriously Cam, how can you keep believing one story after another? Dump her.

3 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

So major plot twist.

 

Phuket girl has come clean.

 

She's not living with her sister in Phuket. Her sister is not a bar girl, but lives in Sisaket.

 

Phuket Girl was living with her Austrian ex in Phuket.

 

She wanted out, so she came to me.

 

She's still asking 20000. It's not unreasonable, she's worth it. 

 

The problem I have is the 62 year old was paying 10000. I should get a discount.

 

She hasn’t come clean - she's just drip-feeding snippets... She hasn’t told you that the kids in Sisaket are actually hers.

 

She’s swapped stories. The “sister who was a bar girl in Phuket”? That was actually her.

 

She wanted out of her Austrian ex because she wanted more money, so she shopped online and found you.

 

If you give her 20,000 baht per month, she’ll stay - while still shopping online for someone willing to pay more.

 

When she says she needs to “travel home” to see her mother, in reality she’ll be going somewhere else to “interview” her latest opportunity.

 

And then she’ll tell him about her “ex,” who paid her 12,000 baht per month, and he’ll post on a forum about how wonderful she is, how she’s only had three sexual partners, while comparing himself as a better option than her 54-year-old ex in looks and performance....

 

 

 

 

 

 

26 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

So major plot twist.

 

Phuket girl has come clean.

 

She's not living with her sister in Phuket. Her sister is not a bar girl, but lives in Sisaket.

 

Phuket Girl was living with her Austrian ex in Phuket.

 

She wanted out, so she came to me.

 

She's still asking 20000. It's not unreasonable, she's worth it. 

 

The problem I have is the 62 year old was paying 10000. I should get a discount.

She's probably charging you more because the Austrian was better looking and less controlling.

1 hour ago, richard_smith237 said:

In your case, it’s clear your lady is with you for you, not because of what’s in your wallet. That’s the key distinction.

 

Yes, in both my relationships...... the word money never once came up .  

 

This whole Cameroni "adventure"  is so clear to me, because i was his age when in between my divorce and second "wife" .   i had plenty of experiences in those years , some "internet related"  ...... and as in most things , i learned by trial and error.

 

"This is where some posters are mistaken. They assume that providing financial support doesn’t alter the dynamic."       

exactly .   especially when it is THE determining factor deciding whether there is going to be a relationship or not .

 

Camoroni's "extreme degree of naïvety and blindness"   is , sadly ,  not unique to him alone in this

playground of Farang / Thai  encounters and heartbreaks .    I do not post to be "cynical" ,  as i am sure you do not ........... but sometimes its hard not to laugh at the follies.

 

18 minutes ago, josephbloggs said:

She's probably charging you more because the Austrian was better looking and less controlling.

 

They don't care what he looks like - they'd jump genetic accidents like georgegeorgia or Harrisfan if they paid the required amount.... 

 

 

Its gone a little quiet now...  reckon Cameroni up to his neck in manipulation tactics and negotiation...

 

Next comment from him...

 

"15,000 baht is a steel for such a trustworthy, honourable, loyal respectful woman - she's even going to trim my toenails... "

Well, I'd save on the cleaning lady, which is 3000 a month. So really she's only asking 17000. She says she'll do all the dishes and clean the floors.

 

She says she'll do all the cooking, so with all the time I'd save, I could make more money.

 

Perhaps 17000 is worth considering.

 

She's dynamite in bed.

6 hours ago, Cameroni said:

 

Well "set her free" is not the answer anyway.

 

She just wants to know she's taken care of financially. I could go to 12000 maybe. The problem is her sister makes 40000 or 60000 as a bar girl in Phuket. This is what is making her demands unreasonable. She already said she wouldn't mind trying to be a bar girl. Because of the money obviously.

 

So I have two issues. Her material demands are out of whack. And two, she needs Thai companionship.

 

You should have gone to 15,000 ............. !

 

 

Firstly, she sounds like a lying, annoying slag.

 

Secondly, she sounds like a lying, annoying slag.

4 minutes ago, Keeps said:

Firstly, she sounds like a lying, annoying slag.

 

Secondly, she sounds like a lying, annoying slag.

 

Aww... come on - thats quite unfair... 

 

She's an honest person who's only had three previous sexual partners....

 

And... its not as if she sleeps around for fun - she's not a 'slag' - she's a sex worker who expects to be paid - there's a difference !!!