2 minutes ago, Hummin said:

she is not matured yet, you will one day have to face all the red flags. That can be painful for you because there is an unbalanced relationship, she will not evolve naturally on her premises but solely on yours. That’s the problem

 

She is not mature in the full sense. She loves to horse around, slap you, and is very playful. Which is a big part of why I like her so much. It's a fallacy that there's "equality" in any relationship, there can't be, for obvious reasons, and that's totally fine. i iwll let her evolve at her own pace, maybe send her to Uni. Let's see early days still.

 

We went to San Pa Koi for noodles and then hit the market today.She paid most of the purchases, cake, bread, fruit, chicken and rice and smoothies, after sampling Kao Soi. It takes so little to keep a girl like this happy.

1 minute ago, Cameroni said:

 

She is not mature in the full sense. She loves to horse around, slap you, and is very playful. Which is a big part of why I like her so much. It's a fallacy that there's "equality" in any relationship, there can't be, for obvious reasons, and that's totally fine. i iwll let her evolve at her own pace, maybe send her to Uni. Let's see early days still.

 

We went to San Pa Koi for noodles and then hit the market today.She paid most of the purchases, cake, bread, fruit, chicken and rice and smoothies, after sampling Kao Soi. It takes so little to keep a girl like this happy.

 

Im not throwing stones, because I know as you know, we both live in our own illusion as mentioned before, but still I believe seen from my side there is advantages to have a bit more matured women, who have learned for good and bad how real life is, and not just living hotel room fantasies. The last is very true when it comes to girls who only had foreigners who where here temporarily or just living a condo life without proper facilities in a an expat community style. Not the mention alsways travelling with their new boy friends, every day is an holiday. 

 

The day you find a woman who do not gives you to much to think about, then you know you are home is my experience, especially when you do not need to to think about her female traits and how her species truly are 😉

48 minutes ago, Hummin said:

but still I believe seen from my side there is advantages to have a bit more matured women,

 

There are a few of course, but for me the disadvantages outweigh them.

 

48 minutes ago, Hummin said:

The day you find a woman who do not gives you to much to think about, then you know you are home

 

I think I'm home.

8 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

 

There are a few of course, but for me the disadvantages outweigh them.

 

 

I think I'm home.

 

The few disadvantages will grow on you when you see she is not going to change because of you. 

 

it feels good to be home, but still it took me 6 years to marry, even I broke my rule not to marry before 10 years 😉 

5 minutes ago, Hummin said:

 

The few disadvantages will grow on you when you see she is not going to change because of you. 

 

it feels good to be home, but still it took me 6 years to marry, even I broke my rule not to marry before 10 years 😉 

 

You really think she hasn't changed, and will not change?

 

Not before 10 years, wow, talk about careful. But she stood the test of time so far, hopefully it will continue.

5 hours ago, Cameroni said:

7 hours ago, josephbloggs said:

You actually believe this. So the 62 year old must have has serious game. Almost an OAP. 

He did, I was told she and him talked for a long time on text before she met him. I'm not saying him being rich didn't help, but she's very selective who she meets. She turned down a guy with a boat.

 

Of course she did...    she tells you of all the guys she's turned down... 

Not the guys she's smashed out  of the park for 10,000 baht... 

 

5 hours ago, Cameroni said:

7 hours ago, josephbloggs said:

If serious game was needed then she would be with a 30 year old with "game", and not sleeping with seriously old men and asking for money.

No, she doesn't like younger guys. She has a thing for a more mature man, that's what she likes. Some women are like that.

 

hahaha...   Brilliant - "She doesn't like younger guys and has a thing for a mature man" and you believe that because she told you !!!...   outstanding levels gullibility - truly galactic !!!   

 

This is getting funnier... 

2 hours ago, Cameroni said:

4 hours ago, FrankieGoesToHolly said:

If it's all as cool as she suggests, get on the phone and talk with him. See if he's willing to put her stuff on a bus.

Afraid that you might hear some truths for which you are not prepared?

 

I actually suggested that to her, unblock him and just ask him. She refused, doesn't want to talk to him anymore.

 

Because she doesn't want you to hear some truths she's not prepared for you to hear !!!

 

Besides - he's still her plan-b... When she gets fed up with you and realises she's not going to get more than 10,000 baht from you, her stuff is still at this - its her excuse to be able to return to him and attempt a re-negotiation.

1 hour ago, Cameroni said:

 

You really think she hasn't changed, and will not change?

 

Not before 10 years, wow, talk about careful. But she stood the test of time so far, hopefully it will continue.

 

You said you already overlooking a few traits she got, and personally I do not think those things will change. Changed comes after reflection of what you could had done better after a break up, where you Learning from previous experiences. I think that goes for women to. Young Thai girls do have a til tok mentality how life is going to be, and should be, and if she is a princess, she also knows her price as well how to twist a man's mind around. 

 

 

If you really do not need to marry? Why should you rush it ? 

 

Of course everybody change, but not before realization and they have to because they want to change. 

5 hours ago, Cameroni said:

I have of course offered to pay for her Uni education, as she expressed a serious wish to go back to Uni. The reason she's not at Uni is the same why she's not working at 711 or anywhere else, her high shool diploma is in a suitcase in Phuket.

 

Ahh... of course it is...    Thats why she didn't work in 7-11 in Phuket or go to Uni in Phuket - because her diploma is in a suit-case in Phuket. 

 

Of course, next time it will have been damaged - I'm going for 'flood damage' as a go-to excuse - but whatever it is - you are never going to see that M6 diploma.

 

 

5 hours ago, Cameroni said:

She desperately wants me to go to Phuket with her to pick up that suitcase, but I don't fancy going to Phuket.

 

Let her go on her own - bring back that 'Diploma' so she can go to Uni and you can start your happy future together as a respectable couple - Mature-Uni-student and comfortable young retiree... 

 

Ohhh...   you won't let her go to Phuket alone because you are worried she'll meet someone else there who'll pay her more and she won't come back.

 

5 hours ago, Cameroni said:

She came across as cultured and charming when my friend who owns a chain of cafes was engaging her in conversation.

 

Cultured and charming because she didn't ask him for 20,000 baht...     quite classy !

11 minutes ago, richard_smith237 said:

Of course she did...    she tells you of all the guys she's turned down... 

Not the guys she's smashed out  of the park for 10,000 baht... 

 

She likes to lead the guys on, to hear what they will offer. Like this guy with the boat who offered 5000 for a short time, but she refused in the end.

 

I guess they like to gauge their market value.

13 minutes ago, richard_smith237 said:

She doesn't like younger guys and has a thing for a mature man" and you believe that because she told you !!!.

 

She didn't just tell me, all her guys were older, it's just what she likes, the empircal evidence corroborates what she said.

2 hours ago, Cameroni said:

4 hours ago, nick supreme said:

The main character in this thread strongly evokes the image of Dan Bilzerian, which adds an intriguing layer to their persona.

 

Yes, much like Dan Bilzerian I have glimpsed the ugly side and the sparkling side of female nature, you're not wrong. And as a result I have a very realistic view of the female of the species.

 

Haha...  Cameroni is nothing like Dan Bilzerian....    

 

...  He's exactly the same as Edward Allen Brown....

 

 

 

2 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

She likes to lead the guys on, to hear what they will offer. Like this guy with the boat who offered 5000 for a short time, but she refused in the end.

 

I guess they like to gauge their market value.

 

Its called 'gauging our appearance'.... Thai's have term for it... translated to "checking our rating"....

 

I think most people do this to some extent... 

 

Walking through a shopping mall - in my 30's and early 40's - I used to see a lot more 'eyes following me'... 

There was more playful communication with females - not only in Thailand, but other nations...    as I've aged that has diminished to anywhere between complete indifference to respectful dialogue..    I can tell the difference, some guys can't and think they have game still !!!... 

 

Walking through a shopping mall - now (early 50's) - those same eyes don't follow me... 

 

Now its just eyes of the hookers following - checking out the dynamic between my wife and I because its so alien to what they have....  and don't kid yourself - when you are walking around with a bit of brass, everyone who's been here a short time can immediately pick-up on it.

 

I see younger men, and plenty of other men follow my Wife because she still looks outstanding and dresses well - I don't get anywhere near the same amount of looks that I did 10 years ago - because I am just older - same figure (weight athleticism - just older)... and that makes a difference.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

22 minutes ago, richard_smith237 said:

Because she doesn't want you to hear some truths she's not prepared for you to hear !!!

 

Like what?

 

22 minutes ago, richard_smith237 said:

Besides - he's still her plan-b... When she gets fed up with you and realises she's not going to get more than 10,000 baht from you, her stuff is still at this - its her excuse to be able to return to him and attempt a re-negotiation.

 

I'm concerned about that as well, given this Austrian's obscene wealth. 

 

17 minutes ago, richard_smith237 said:

Let her go on her own -

 

To go to the flat of the Austrian ex. Alone. Great idea.

 

 

 

 

3 minutes ago, richard_smith237 said:

Walking through a shopping mall - now (early 50's) - those same eyes don't follow me... 

 

Sorry to hear that.

 

Some guys already lost it at 50, it does happen. 

 

Thankfully I don't have that problem.

2 minutes ago, richard_smith237 said:

plenty of other men follow my Wife because she still looks outstanding

 

So outstanding you don't dare to put up her pic here.

 

Sure.

A year with Bangkok Girl and another year paying sponsorship fees to her? Surely you claimed it was two years previously. 

I guess you learned your lesson with Bangkok Girl, now getting your 'girls' tested. Did you get tested? Let's hope they don't catch anything from you.

I see two kinds of women in this world. Ones that cannot be bought(priceless) and ones that can be bought. The ones that cannot be bought won't ever sell themselves. The ones that can be bought are worth the price you paid for them. 

You wouldn't get within spitting distance of the former. They can smell a rat from a mile away.

 

1 minute ago, FrankieGoesToHolly said:

I see two kinds of women in this world. Ones that cannot be bought(priceless) and ones that can be bought. The ones that cannot be bought won't ever sell themselves. The ones that can be bought are worth the price you paid for them. 

 

Yes, the old whore and madonna delusion from which Richard suffers as well. Sad to say reality is rather differen. There's a little bit of whore in all women. Just a question of price. A little bit of madonna too, for the right man.

 

3 minutes ago, FrankieGoesToHolly said:

A year with Bangkok Girl and another year paying sponsorship fees to her? Surely you claimed it was two years previously. 

 

One year living together, another year seeing each other every few months weeks at a time.

 

3 minutes ago, FrankieGoesToHolly said:

You wouldn't get within spitting distance of the former.

 

I get exactly those I want, usually, not always of course, but I have no complaints. My pipeline is full.

Just now, Cameroni said:

24 minutes ago, richard_smith237 said:

Because she doesn't want you to hear some truths she's not prepared for you to hear !!!

 

Like what?

 

Like he's still paying her... 

Like she's planning to return...

Like its not actually the Austrian she's calling but a new guy...

 

Like any amount of fabricated story she drums up, becasue thats all she's doing every time you turn a page its a new story.

 

Just now, Cameroni said:

24 minutes ago, richard_smith237 said:

Besides - he's still her plan-b... When she gets fed up with you and realises she's not going to get more than 10,000 baht from you, her stuff is still at this - its her excuse to be able to return to him and attempt a re-negotiation.

 

I'm concerned about that as well, given this Austrian's obscene wealth. 

 

I'm not sure what 'obscene' wealth is in your eyes - he was giving her 10,000 baht a month and paying for food...

 

But - if you are concerned she will choose his 10,000 baht over your 'outstanding lovemaking and stellar character' then you are right - she will chose money first - she's already proven thats in her nature.

 

 

Just now, Cameroni said:

 

18 minutes ago, richard_smith237 said:

Let her go on her own -

 

To go to the flat of the Austrian ex. Alone. Great idea.

 

I thought she was into you because of your charm and your reputation as an outstanding lover - money didn’t come into it.

 

Apparently it does.....

 

You’re worried the Austrian will slip her a bit of wonga and she’ll be screaming in reverse-cowgirl faster than she fluttered Mozarts Flute Concerto No. 1 in D major within hours of meeting you... 

 

10 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

12 minutes ago, richard_smith237 said:

Walking through a shopping mall - now (early 50's) - those same eyes don't follow me... 

 

Sorry to hear that.

 

Some guys already lost it at 50, it does happen. 

 

Thankfully I don't have that problem.

 

100% you have that problem - you are just delusional about it.

 

And - its not a problem at all really - its simply recognition that at 50 years old we are not as attractive as we were when we were 35 years old... 

 

 

3 minutes ago, richard_smith237 said:

Like he's still paying her... 

 

I doubt it, he called her and heard a man's voice. He must be rather angry with her. She told him she's going to Si Saket.

 

4 minutes ago, richard_smith237 said:

Like she's planning to return..

 

Negative. The Austrian guy is unlikely to offer her anything now.

 

5 minutes ago, richard_smith237 said:

Like its not actually the Austrian she's calling but a new guy...

 

Let's see.

 

5 minutes ago, richard_smith237 said:

I'm not sure what 'obscene' wealth is in your eyes - he was giving her 10,000 baht a month and paying for food...

 

He owns five properties in Phuket, four condos and a house.

 

6 minutes ago, richard_smith237 said:

Apparently it does.....

 

Well, they were together 5 months, enough time to form a bond of sorts.

2 hours ago, Cameroni said:

2 hours ago, Hummin said:

The day you find a woman who do not gives you to much to think about, then you know you are home

 

I think I'm home.

 

Yep... 

 

You only have to ensure she doesn't go back to Phuket to see her Ex.

You have to continually negotiate that you are paying her enough.

You have to worry that a new guy won't come along and offer her 20,000 baht.

You have to make sure she doesn't load and use tinder again.

You have to make sure she doesn't load and use ThaiFriendly again.

 

Sure... You are home alright....   laying in bed with fleas.

2 minutes ago, richard_smith237 said:

100% you have that problem - you are just delusional about it.

 

No, I'm quite realistic, I notice eyes follow me still. I have the face. Granted a bit less than when I was 18, 28 and 34, sure, but I don't have the issue that I have to worry about my looks. 

 

3 minutes ago, richard_smith237 said:

And - its not a problem at all really - its simply recognition that at 50 years old we are not as attractive as we were when we were 35 years old... 

 

Of course, but it's a sliding scale, if you had model looks at 18, when you're 50 you can still look good enough that you have e yes on you in places.

 

Just sayin'.

1 minute ago, Cameroni said:

7 minutes ago, richard_smith237 said:

Like he's still paying her... 

 

I doubt it, he called her and heard a man's voice. He must be rather angry with her. She told him she's going to Si Saket.

 

Then he can ship her Things to Chiang Mai no ???

Its cheap.

 

 

1 minute ago, Cameroni said:

 

7 minutes ago, richard_smith237 said:

Like she's planning to return..

Negative. The Austrian guy is unlikely to offer her anything now.

 

Fair enough - he can ship her things to Chiang Mai now then - why not ?

 

1 minute ago, Cameroni said:

7 minutes ago, richard_smith237 said:

Like its not actually the Austrian she's calling but a new guy...

Let's see.

 

Indeed...  

 

1 minute ago, Cameroni said:

 

7 minutes ago, richard_smith237 said:

I'm not sure what 'obscene' wealth is in your eyes - he was giving her 10,000 baht a month and paying for food...

He owns five properties in Phuket, four condos and a house.

 

Good on him - so you are scared of losing her to him because you think his money outweighs your game ?...

... otherwise, whats your concern if your 'game' so good and she'll be loyal ?

 

 

1 minute ago, Cameroni said:

7 minutes ago, richard_smith237 said:

Apparently it does.....

Well, they were together 5 months, enough time to form a bond of sorts.

 

A bond to 10,000 per month and an life of not having to do anything... 

 

I suppose she's developing the same bond with you now - can laze around watching TikTok all day, sleep with you now and again, you feed her and get amazed when she mops once ever few days.

2 minutes ago, richard_smith237 said:

 

Yep... 

 

You only have to ensure she doesn't go back to Phuket to see her Ex.

You have to continually negotiate that you are paying her enough.

You have to worry that a new guy won't come along and offer her 20,000 baht.

You have to make sure she doesn't load and use tinder again.

You have to make sure she doesn't load and use ThaiFriendly again.

 

Sure... You are home alright....   laying in bed with fleas.

 

Fair points, well made.

 

However, she'll have to see her ex to get that suitcase full of her things. I probably can't avoid going to blasted Phuket.

 

Yes, money is always a matter of negotiation, like in all relationships.

 

New guys don't worry me much at the moment. Remember she deleted tinder and TF for me. And I am keeping her entertained and filled up with noodles. 

 

 

1 minute ago, Cameroni said:

 

Of course, but it's a sliding scale, if you had model looks at 18, when you're 50 you can still look good enough that you have e yes on you in places.

 

Just sayin'.

Oh, man how I have changed since I was 47, 50, 53, and today, 

 

and it is delightful to see my wife changes with me 😄 

Just now, richard_smith237 said:

Then he can ship her Things to Chiang Mai no ???

Its cheap.

 

That's exactly what I suggested, richard. Unblock him and tell him to ship your stuff. But she doesn't want to even text him. She's probably ashamed she lied to him and shacked up with another guy. Like I said, he must be angry.

 

1 minute ago, richard_smith237 said:

Good on him - so you are scared of losing her to him because you think his money outweighs your game ?..

 

Everything is possible, the way I gauge Phuket Girl now :I think it's unlikely. But she is a woman, and deception is a speciality, so it's too early to be certain either way. Like I say, I manage risk.

2 minutes ago, richard_smith237 said:

watching TikTok all day

 

Not gonna lie, this is a major problem.

There's only one person who is delusional on this thread. You swim exclusively with women who can be bought. If you had experience with anything other than that, you wouldn't be making such ridiculous statements.

It's your women with whom it is just a question of price. Usually they are cheap. 8k per month is cheap. Cheap women, are what you like and to what you are used.

I also meet those kinds of women. Asking for long distance relationships or for me to buy them a ticket to visit me. I pretend to not understand or just simply say no.

Those are the women that you covet. I throw them back into the sea, as worthless. Why would I waste my precious time with someone of such low quality, unless I was equally low? Thankfully, I am not. But we all know why you dive in with them.

I guess if you saw your parents doing the same, you really don't know any better. Guys like you make me look good. Thank you. 

 

 

 

7 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

 

No, I'm quite realistic, I notice eyes follow me still. I have the face. Granted a bit less than when I was 18, 28 and 34, sure, but I don't have the issue that I have to worry about my looks. 

 

 

Of course, but it's a sliding scale, if you had model looks at 18, when you're 50 you can still look good enough that you have e yes on you in places.

 

Just sayin'.

 

Of course they do...   You're paying for hookers to live with you...  But you can walk though a shopping mall and all females eyes follow you with desire because you are so handsome - yet you can't get any of these girls and opt for scraping the barrel.... 

 

 

Just now, FrankieGoesToHolly said:

You swim exclusively with women who can be bought.

 

Lol, if you think you can "buy" a woman (who's not a prostitute), you're even more delusional than I thought originally.

 

1 minute ago, FrankieGoesToHolly said:

If you had experience with anything other than that,

 

I have plenty of experience with non-Asian women.

 

1 minute ago, FrankieGoesToHolly said:

It's your women with whom it is just a question of price.

 

In your febrile imagination maybe. in reality guys have tried to give her  5000 and a yacht trip, and she refused.

 

2 minutes ago, FrankieGoesToHolly said:

Why would I waste my precious time with someone of such low quality

 

Again, the only way to gauge the quality of a woman is after many years living with her and seeing her true character.

No young girls are looking at you Cameroni. You dress like an old man. That is how they see you.