1 minute ago, richard_smith237 said:

You're paying for hookers to live with you... 

 

No, I'm not. I'm in a very exciting and loving relationship with a lovely 24 year old who has never worked as a hooker in her life and never worked as a bar girl either.

 

2 minutes ago, richard_smith237 said:

But you can walk though a shopping mall and all females eyes follow you with desire because you are so handsome -

 

Not all, le'ts not go nuts, but enough that I don't have to feel left out like you do, richard.

 

3 minutes ago, richard_smith237 said:

scraping the barrel....

 

The barrel I'm scraping is of higher quality than anything you've ever had, I'm quite sure.

1 minute ago, FrankieGoesToHolly said:

No young girls are looking at you Cameroni. You dress like an old man. That is how they see you.

 

Afraid they do. And I dress nothing like an old man. I dress very well. That helps of course.

4 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

7 minutes ago, richard_smith237 said:

Then he can ship her Things to Chiang Mai no ???

Its cheap.

 

That's exactly what I suggested, richard. Unblock him and tell him to ship your stuff. But she doesn't want to even text him. She's probably ashamed she lied to him and shacked up with another guy. Like I said, he must be angry.

 

Clearly shame is not in her arsenal of emotions - not given the lies she's told to you already.

Or is the truth she wants to keep the bag in Phuket because there is 'someting else' there....  maybe coming soon ?

Or wants to keep that option open - if you wanted to mitigate risk - the bag would be sent from Phuket already ?

She clearly wants an 'exit' plan when she finally realises you are not her pay-day and she finds someone else who might be... the next john.

 

4 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

 

7 minutes ago, richard_smith237 said:

Good on him - so you are scared of losing her to him because you think his money outweighs your game ?..

 

Everything is possible, the way I gauge Phuket Girl now :I think it's unlikely. But she is a woman, and deception is a speciality, so it's too early to be certain either way. Like I say, I manage risk.

 

Well you are accurate - but you are not managing risk - you are managing mercenary p4p girl - which is why you perceive the risk that she'll go with the next punter. 

 

 

4 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

7 minutes ago, richard_smith237 said:

watching TikTok all day

Not gonna lie, this is a major problem.

 

 

1 minute ago, richard_smith237 said:

Or is the truth she wants to keep the bag in Phuket because there is 'someting else' there....  maybe coming soon ?

 

I am concerned about this bag in the Austrian Ex's apartment. It seems like an excuse to go to his place. To be fair she did ask me to come along, so she may not have any ulterior motive. But this is not a good problem to have.

2 minutes ago, richard_smith237 said:

you are managing mercenary p4p girl - which is why you perceive the risk that she'll go with the next punter. 

 

No, she's not p4p, but there's always a risk, I mean she loves the beach, she loves Phuket, she had a good rel with this guy from what I gather...so nobody knows what could happen.

4 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

7 minutes ago, FrankieGoesToHolly said:

You swim exclusively with women who can be bought.

Lol, if you think you can "buy" a woman (who's not a prostitute), you're even more delusional than I thought originally.

 

Thats true - you can't buy women who are not prostitutes. 

 

But... you 'are' buying your women...  ergo... 

 

 

4 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

7 minutes ago, FrankieGoesToHolly said:

If you had experience with anything other than that,

I have plenty of experience with non-Asian women.

 

Dates to Tescos and Sainsburys ?...  

 

Of course you have a history, most likely with respectable women from your home country...  and even countries where there are 'white women' from poorer economic backgrounds whom you are able to have better 'control' over - until you don't.

 

4 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

7 minutes ago, FrankieGoesToHolly said:

It's your women with whom it is just a question of price.

In your febrile imagination maybe. in reality guys have tried to give her  5000 and a yacht trip, and she refused.

 

Well - she’s said she won’t travel to the ‘seal’ for a night with a guy for 5,000 baht - while she has you paying for her.

Had he offered her 20,000 or 30,000 baht, she’d have dropped you like a fungal infection.

 

4 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

 

7 minutes ago, FrankieGoesToHolly said:

Why would I waste my precious time with someone of such low quality

Again, the only way to gauge the quality of a woman is after many years living with her and seeing her true character.

 

Or just 'negotiating for her time to stay with you and sleep with you' tends to be somewhat of a giveaway.. 

3 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

6 minutes ago, richard_smith237 said:

Or is the truth she wants to keep the bag in Phuket because there is 'someting else' there....  maybe coming soon ?

 

I am concerned about this bag in the Austrian Ex's apartment. It seems like an excuse to go to his place. To be fair she did ask me to come along, so she may not have any ulterior motive. But this is not a good problem to have.

6 minutes ago, richard_smith237 said:

you are managing mercenary p4p girl - which is why you perceive the risk that she'll go with the next punter. 

 

No, she's not p4p, but there's always a risk, I mean she loves the beach, she loves Phuket, she had a good rel with this guy from what I gather...so nobody knows what could happen.

 

If her ex offers her 20,000 baht a month - will she go back to him?

 

If any new guy offers her 30,000 baht a month - will she go and stay with him?

 

You can’t answer “no” with any degree of confidence, because you know her decisions are made primarily by finances.

 

The very definition of p4p... 

 

 

5 minutes ago, richard_smith237 said:

If her ex offers her 20,000 baht a month - will she go back to him?

 

 

Who can say. Right now I'd say she's in love with me, and it's unlikely. But she is a woman. So you can't really trust her. Anything is possible.

 

5 minutes ago, richard_smith237 said:

If any new guy offers her 30,000 baht a month - will she go and stay with him?

 

What guy in his right mind would offer 30000 baht? That's insane. Even she's only asking for 20,000, lol.

 

5 minutes ago, richard_smith237 said:

You can’t answer “no” with any degree of confidence, because you know her decisions are made primarily by finances.

 

No, because she's a woman. It's never certain that what you see is the truth and not an act, so one can't say for sure at this point. I've known her for 2 weeks now.

 

5 minutes ago, richard_smith237 said:

The very definition of p4p... 

 

In your fantasy world maybe.

12 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

No, I'm not. I'm in a very exciting and loving relationship with a lovely 24 year old who has never worked as a hooker in her life and never worked as a bar girl either.

 

She's never slept with man for money... riiiiiight...  Yet had a 10,000 baht salary to sleep with her ex....  and is under salary to sleep with you... Sorry, not sleep with you... to 'stay with you' its difference because she loves you, the 10,000 baht has earned her 'love and affection' thats not a hooker because feelings have been bought. 

 

12 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

Not all, le'ts not go nuts, but enough that I don't have to feel left out like you do, richard.

 

Not really - I like the greater anonymity of no longer being noticed....  works perfectly for me.

Though my Wife gets lots of eyes looking her way (male and female) - usually about how she looks, how well she is dressed, how she carries herself etc - the looks I get are probably more along the lines of 'how did he possibly end up with her'....   

 

..... and when we cross the path of a 'guy-hooker' couple - the hooker may as well stop and take a photo - they go into complete 'stare mode'...    obviously wondering what she needs to do to land a normal looking guy not the aging cretin or social miss-fit she is with...  hookers - always wanting something better.... Its why you can't trust yours !!! 

 

12 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

The barrel I'm scraping is of higher quality than anything you've ever had, I'm quite sure.

 

If you say so...   there was enough discussion about that on earlier pages and you got terribly upset because the majority of the forum called your man-thing a three....

6 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

Who can say. Right now I'd say she's in love with me, and it's unlikely. But she is a woman. So you can't really trust her. Anything is possible.

 

 

<<< "Who can say. Right now I'd say she's in love with my payment, and it's unlikely. But she is a hooker. So you can't really trust her. Anything is possible"... >>>

 

There - rewrote it for you... 

7 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

What guy in his right mind would offer 30000 baht? That's insane. Even she's only asking for 20,000, lol.

 

Agreed - a three would be be happy just to be taken off the street.....   

8 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

No, because she's a woman. It's never certain that what you see is the truth and not an act, so one can't say for sure at this point. I've known her for 2 weeks now.

 

And she's asked for 20,000 baht, 100,000 baht, 15,000 baht... 

 

How much have you actually agree to pay her per month ??? - how much cash have you given her ?

27 minutes ago, richard_smith237 said:

She's never slept with man for money... riiiiiight...

 

Correct. She was in relationships where she was given an allowance, sure, but that was incidental.

 

You have this imagination that this girls is a "hooker", when she was with the Austrian guy exclusively for 5 months. So this negates your entire "hooker" narrative from the start.

 

27 minutes ago, richard_smith237 said:

Yet had a 10,000 baht salary to sleep with her ex...

 

Not a salary, an allowance, which many wives and girlfriends get, even in the UK.

 

27 minutes ago, richard_smith237 said:

and is under salary to sleep with you...

 

Of course not, she's received 1500 baht so far. That's ridiculous. She's here DESPITE not getting the money she wanted.

 

27 minutes ago, richard_smith237 said:

to 'stay with you' its difference because she loves you, the 10,000 baht has earned her 'love and affection' thats not a hooker because feelings have been bought. 

 

None of that applies. She has expenses, a need that has to be met. I can meet it and so I do. The affection I earned fair and square, the feelings too.

 

27 minutes ago, richard_smith237 said:

Though my Wife gets lots of eyes looking her way (male and female) -

 

I doubt it, she's 40 something now. I never look at 40 somethings and most men don't. Most women don't.

 

27 minutes ago, richard_smith237 said:

a normal looking guy

 

That bad huh? Sorry, man.

 

27 minutes ago, richard_smith237 said:

Its why you can't trust yours !!! 

 

Yes, she's lusting after a normal guy like you, richard, and your 48 year old menopausal wife, that's why I can't trust her.

 

Lol.

 

 

5 minutes ago, richard_smith237 said:

 

And she's asked for 20,000 baht, 100,000 baht, 15,000 baht... 

 

How much have you actually agree to pay her per month ??? - how much cash have you given her ?

 

I told you already. I paid 5500 for the airfare and travel, which she then refunded when we had that spat where she said she'd leave. I then sent her 7000, so minus the 5500 she sent back, she's got 1500 so far.

 

 

10 minutes ago, richard_smith237 said:

 

Agreed - a three would be be happy just to be taken off the street.....   

 

She's a solid 8, your nonsense about 3 is laughable. Mere jealousy since you have to make do with a crypt keeper you're too afraid to show a photo of on here.

 

Just as Celsius who's at least had the courage to reveal he's with an aging 2 with thinning hair.

 

The truth always comes out.

She's a 'solid' <5 and worse, you'll be paying for it soon enough.

I don't know anyone who gives an allowance to their girlfriend. I do know prostitutes/mistresses who are kept women. But no one with a genuine partner gives a woman money, unless she is taking care of the household.

You were sending money to a girl who did not even live with you, that's pathetic if not purely charitable. But you called her your girlfriend. That was pitiful. Now you have a self confessed easy girl, who sleeps around, cheats and sells herself to the highest bidder. How low can you go? You'll be devastated when she packs up and leaves. Where do you go from there? Crack whores?

1 hour ago, FrankieGoesToHolly said:

Why would I waste my precious time with someone of such low quality, unless I was equally low?

 

Haha, the plot thickens. Cameroni has a new stalker.

A troll? You should be flattered, Cameroni.

 

And pay no attention to the guys who are trying to make you feel like a low-life for paying your woman. That's how it goes in Thailand. Most women here need some level of support. 

 

 

34 minutes ago, FrankieGoesToHolly said:

But no one with a genuine partner gives a woman money,

 

Lol.

 

Yes, you're very likeable. 

 

35 minutes ago, FrankieGoesToHolly said:

Now you have a self confessed easy girl, who sleeps around, cheats and sells herself to the highest bidder

 

Not easy at all. Doesn't sleep around. And not for sale either. Keep your fantasy world alive though, I love to see the delusional mouthe off.

21 minutes ago, save the frogs said:

 

Haha, the plot thickens. Cameroni has a new stalker.

A troll? You should be flattered, Cameroni.

 

And pay no attention to the guys who are trying to make you feel like a low-life for paying your woman. That's how it goes in Thailand. Most women here need some level of support. 

 

 

 

Nobody likes a man who's getting it. Even I don't, lol.

Speaking for yourself, save the frogs? You keeping a woman too?  It's nothing to do with whether he is paying her or not. It's the delusion that it's anything other than P4P.

I'm sure that you aren't totally delusional.

I'm not interested in women who might be expecting financial support. There are millions who don't. I can choose from them. If you need to swim in the pool of the financially disabled to get a woman, that's up to you.

I look at it this way. Low quality woman, admits to cheating and sleeping around. Sleeping with a 62 year old man and being paid an allowance for it and yet, she's thinks herself worth more than Cameroni. In fact she thinks she's worth Cameroni + 20,000 baht plus accommodation plus... So what does that make him? He of so little value, because he is even more desperate than she.

Someone who has values that don't dilute on sight of $ is worth so much more.

 

 

2 minutes ago, FrankieGoesToHolly said:

In fact she thinks she's worth Cameroni + 20,000 baht plus accommodation plus... So what does that make him?

 

I dunno ... a pimp ?

 

4 minutes ago, FrankieGoesToHolly said:

It's the delusion that it's anything other than P4P.

 

The delusion is all yours. It's neither P4P, nor a "hooker" nor a "prositute". 

 

Ludicrous.

 

4 minutes ago, FrankieGoesToHolly said:

I'm not interested in women who might be expecting financial support.

 

Hahahahahaha, sure. You're more obsessed with prostitution and prostitutes than Richard.

 

4 minutes ago, FrankieGoesToHolly said:

Low quality woman, admits to cheating and sleeping around.

 

Stop lying, she never admitted to cheating or sleeping around.

 

 

Low quality women? Wtf are those? There are lots of women fooling around.

You think , you are married and she is "yours", forget it. The woman just changes standards.

And what a miracle, men do the same.

Here are dating sites , as said especially for people in a relation, for "second love".

So the market is high in that, otherwise those sites werent there.

 

With Phuket girl, she was with Austrian man 62. Her sex drive is high.

If 62 cant do it, she finds her way to her Thai ex, probably her age. However it is not good overall.

SO she wants to escape that situation and met Cam. Anything is better then status quo.

Lots of women who are changing their status quo, just to feel alive?

 

Cam has already issues with money, to her and is threatening her. He treats her not in a right way.

As soon something pops up, he demands her to leave. He showed that.

Or maybe he does so, to get rit of her, Phil girl is still in his mind and even wanted to go to Phil to get her to Thailand after threatening the Phuket girl. However she didnt leave.

 

She is not allowed to have contacts in phone, he can and is active working on next cases. 

So you could say low quality man. Not really fixed on a good long term relation, as he stated he was aiming for that.

Despite being a being older, and a lawyer, who should have values and norms. 

He is just waiting on a moment, again to ditch. Phil girl is in his mind !

Or is CM girl still playing in his mind and he is waiting for her?

Every thing possible, people are strange. 

 

16 hours ago, Cameroni said:

Correct. She was in relationships where she was given an allowance, sure, but that was incidental.

 

You have this imagination that this girls is a "hooker", when she was with the Austrian guy exclusively for 5 months. So this negates your entire "hooker" narrative from the start.

5 months of getting Austrian boomers love action as & when he wanted for the bargain basement price of 10,0000 per month… 

 

She wasn’t a hooker though…

…. they <removed> for money on a one off basis…   Not peer week or month.. 

2 hours ago, Cameroni said:

2 hours ago, FrankieGoesToHolly said:

It's the delusion that it's anything other than P4P.

 

The delusion is all yours. It's neither P4P, nor a "hooker" nor a "prositute". 

 

Ludicrous

what are you paying her to do then ??

 

Cleaner with Benefits !!! 🫣😂

2 hours ago, Cameroni said:

2 hours ago, FrankieGoesToHolly said:

But no one with a genuine partner gives a woman money,

 

Lol.

 

Yes, you're very likeable

For 10,000 baht he’ll let you do his Big-C shopping & sneak a kiss on the back  of the head & call it romance….   Hormones raging ! 

This is a Thai 10 woman?

 

 

Well she was first a MAN !

Chayanon jaratthong

15 minutes ago, xtrnuno41 said:

This is a Thai 10 woman?

 

 

Well she was first a MAN !

Chayanon jaratthong

100% - Cameroni said the full 19 for sure…

3 hours ago, save the frogs said:

 

Haha, the plot thickens. Cameroni has a new stalker.

A troll? You should be flattered, Cameroni.

 

And pay no attention to the guys who are trying to make you feel like a low-life for paying your woman. That's how it goes in Thailand. Most women here need some level of support. 

 

 

No one is making him feel like a low life for paying - it is perfectly normal and fine; no judgement at all. He's 54 and alone, he can pay for sex, no one judges that.

However he has opened himself up for ridicule by saying it is because of his "game", his good looks, his sexual performance, and that she is an angel who has fallen for him (in, erm, about 3 hours of leaving an OAP and meeting him it seems - coz that's what normal 24 year olds do). It is ludicrous and he deserves the ridicule. And then he slags off everyone who has normal relationships as being losers who don't have his "game".

Lets not forget in the beginning of this thread he called her a "ho", said she was "worthless", a "cheap slut" and that he was too street wise to be suckered in. But now he's in love and thinks he is better than everyone. Fallen in love with a cheap slut (his words) after a day or two. It's like he just got off the boat, a textbook mark, and this is playing out perfectly according to the textbook indeed.

Had he have posted "I met this girl on Tinder, she's 24, I know I'm an old man, she's after money and it probably won't end well, but I'm having a great time and loving it while it lasts" this would have been a one page thread. Ignored, good for him. 

But he turned it in to what it has become, he deserves all the derision and ridicule he gets.

6 hours ago, FrankieGoesToHolly said:

There's only one person who is delusional on this thread. You swim exclusively with women who can be bought. If you had experience with anything other than that, you wouldn't be making such ridiculous statements.

 

Yes because 

 

6 hours ago, Cameroni said:

She likes to lead the guys on, to hear what they will offer. Like this guy with the boat who offered 5000 for a short time, but she refused in the end.

 

This happens to regular Thai women all the time.

 

And lets be honest here. If Richard offered her 20k she'd be with Richard ❤️ not Canofwormi

 

 

8 hours ago, richard_smith237 said:

 

100% you have that problem - you are just delusional about it.

 

And - its not a problem at all really - its simply recognition that at 50 years old we are not as attractive as we were when we were 35 years old... 

 

 

 

You have got it all wrong Richard, Cannelloni has got it right, I can prove it as it happens to me frequently. 

 

As I was sat in a restaurant a few weeks ago, a good looking young woman half my age was passing by and we both smiled at each other, she stopped and waved and smiled again, I waved her in.

 

She came she sat down next to me, we had a few drinks and she started to get all touchy feely, you have probably forgotten all of this excitement after such a long time in the wilderness. 

 

She ran her hand up my leg and she noticed the bulge in my trousers.

 

I said do you like that?

 

She said, I love guys with massive, bulging, thick, heavy, gigantic wallets in their trouser pockets, it is so, so, sooooo very sexy, I want more, my heart sank.

 

(I made it up but you get my drift, it is what Cannelloni makes up on a daily basis except he talks down the money part of the deal).

 

But how can we believe any woman relating to what they say which also applies to Cannelloni as he said they are women and all women lie and cheat yet he relies on what they say to him about how great he is as evidence of how much women like him.

 

That is so funny.

 

But his stories do make me laugh, what an imagination he has got, he should be a novelist, he would make a packet.  🤣

 

The first novel could be Walter Mitty In Paradise.