33 minutes ago, mangkut70 said:

Did she provide a picture to proof she is working as waitress? Ask her again where exactly she works. Tell her, you are really hungry and want to eat (at) her (place). That you want to come over and give her a huge tip. 💸 💰 💰 Worth the try 🤞 Mentioning of money you are willing to pay her should at least prompt a reaction 😁

She said she doesn't want to see me, but that tip carrot is a good idea..lol.

No, no picture, I'm not sure she takes her phone to work, probably not allowed. I will ask her.

2 hours ago, JamesPhuket10 said:

She has sent you many texts you say and messages, just enough to keep you on the hook.

She could in fact go to another part of the town she is staying at and send you the map link to that place without giving away her actual location so you can not just turn up.

She is willing to tell you where she is but will not send a map link as proof.

Here’s the reality. Cameroni arranged and paid for the services of a sex worker. He knew exactly what the arrangement was as soon as he compensated her for the meeting. The previously presented romantic history and the ongoing portrayal of romantic difficulties is entirely fabricated for the audience.

Or do you really think people can be this stupid?

Oh, wait...

41 minutes ago, Celsius said:

Or do you really think people can be this stupid?

Oh, wait...

IMO nothing to do with stupid. Can happen to otherwise most clever & educated people. Have witnessed it many times. heart and ego are the vulnerable parts. Western moral ethical beliefs turn against you in this situation. brain shuts down in shock. Nothing prepares ppl coming from the western wastelands for whats waiting in LOS and other Asian countries.

If you try to help a friend with advice in such situation its more likely he will turn against you than "his" lovebird. Many have to experience it several times until they get it.

Even worse if they -unlike Cameroni- grasp what these girls are and try to "save" them.

3 hours ago, Cameroni said:

She texted me just know. She's a real waitress now, taking orders and serving food. She's tired as hell.

Poor girl.

See, it's not over. She's still texting.

RIP 177 page thread. This proves it was a wind up all along.

3 hours ago, Cameroni said:

She texted me just know. She's a real waitress now, taking orders and serving food. She's tired as hell.

Poor girl.

See, it's not over. She's still texting.

But still forgets the name of the cafe.... hmmm... she's taking orders alright...

... "On yer knees"... "turn over"... "legs behind yer neck"... "turn around"...

Poor girl indeed - must be exhausted...

4 hours ago, josephbloggs said:

RIP 177 page thread. This proves it was a wind up all along.

There is always a super honest Filipina virgin....

28 minutes ago, Celsius said:

There is always a super honest Filipina virgin....

I'm waiting for him to move to Chonburi.... then get ghosted by PG.. but he finds a new love of his life who works in a town nearby and commutes on a honda Scoopy... he has no idea where to - but she's honest and is happy to spend half of the day with him.. that night-shift in the factory is tough though, and a short-skirt and tight top is a strange uniform - nevertheless... Chonburi girl will be the real deal !!!

1 hour ago, Celsius said:

There is always a super honest Filipina virgin....

He can't contact her. She lost her phone again. Needs a new one.

Phuket Girl and I texted all night. She sent me two long videos she took on her Ipad when she was here, saying "cute". We were clowning around. So she's looking at photos and videos of us.

She texted me literally all night until she fell asleep. So it's not over. Nor is she with another guy, as she couldn't text all night then. Very strange to say she wants to break up and then to do this.

Our convo yielded info in the following areas:

1. She says the name of the cafe she works at is "dawn". She sent the name in Thai, google translate says it's "dawn". However, a Google/FB/Insta search reveals no Dawn cafe in Chonburi. There is a Dawn to dusk cafe in BKK. It is possible she is in BKK not Chonburi. After all, if you were trying to make a lot of money would you go to BKK or Conburi? The other possibility is she is in Chonburi and the name of the cafe is totally different.

2. She says her working hours are 8.30 am to 18.30 pm. She first texted me around 8.30 pm. She says she does not get a single day off, which may be a lie.

3. She said she felt sad about her phone. It would appear the problem persists, her phone switches on and off constantly. When she was texting me this was very apparent, in that messages went through only after a prolongued down time from 8 to 15 minutes or longer. This makes me think she either uses the phone or gets internet on the ipad from her phone. This would mean there is no "relative" giving her a hotspot, hence impossible to send a photo.

14 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

Phuket Girl and I texted all night. She sent me two long videos she took on her Ipad when she was here, saying "cute". We were clowning around. So she's looking at photos and videos of us.

She texted me literally all night until she fell asleep. So it's not over. Nor is she with another guy, as she couldn't text all night then. Very strange to say she wants to break up and then to do this.

Awwwww. She's got a night off. Even a top earner in the bars needs to unstretch their parts sometimes, a night off is good.

16 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

1. She says the name of the cafe she works at is "dawn". She sent the name in Thai, google translate says it's "dawn". However, a Google/FB/Insta search reveals no Dawn cafe in Chonburi. There is a Dawn to dusk cafe in BKK. It is possible she is in BKK not Chonburi. After all, if you were trying to make a lot of money would you go to BKK or Conburi? The other possibility is she is in Chonburi and the name of the cafe is totally different.

Jesus man, wow. Dawn to Dusk is a semi "hi-so" restaurant in Bangkok, I have been there many times. Good food, really well trained staff. Believe me they don't take rag dolls off the street. She is NOT working there.

However, it is close to where I live, I can pop by tomorrow and look for the girl in the flowery dress with massive manly feet and lips like she's been punched in the face. Happy to do that for you bro. I'll let you know if she's there, and if she is I'll tell her you've apologised for posting her pics and anal history and you apologise for calling her a worthless slut (page 3) and a cock rider. Maybe she'll take you back.

Oh no, she's in a fruit factory. Or was it a cafe? I can't keep up.

1 hour ago, josephbloggs said:

Dawn to Dusk is a semi "hi-so" restaurant in Bangkok, I have been there many times. Good food, really well trained staff. Believe me they don't take rag dolls off the street. She is NOT working there.

That's helpful, it does tally with the pics I saw. So that means she really is in Chonburi and the "dawn" name is most likely made up or it's an eatery without any internet presence. It makes sense, because she has no CV, and Chonburi is a more likely place to hire without CV someone with no experience waitressing.

1 hour ago, josephbloggs said:

with massive manly feet and lips like she's been punched in the face.

What a misogynist thing to say. She has lovely feet and luscious full lips. Such a gorgeous woman.

1 hour ago, Cameroni said:

Phuket Girl and I texted all night. She sent me two long videos she took on her Ipad when she was here, saying "cute". We were clowning around. So she's looking at photos and videos of us.

She can send you videos of you in CM, but not of her now, nor her location... hhmmmm

1 hour ago, Cameroni said:

She texted me literally all night until she fell asleep. So it's not over. Nor is she with another guy, as she couldn't text all night then. Very strange to say she wants to break up and then to do this.

The other guy left already... didn't work out.

1 hour ago, Cameroni said:

Our convo yielded info in the following areas:

1. She says the name of the cafe she works at is "dawn". She sent the name in Thai, google translate says it's "dawn". However, a Google/FB/Insta search reveals no Dawn cafe in Chonburi. There is a Dawn to dusk cafe in BKK. It is possible she is in BKK not Chonburi. After all, if you were trying to make a lot of money would you go to BKK or Conburi? The other possibility is she is in Chonburi and the name of the cafe is totally different

So she made up the name... and now you can't find it !!... sounds about right.

Still no location or photo !

1 hour ago, Cameroni said:

2. She says her working hours are 8.30 am to 18.30 pm. She first texted me around 8.30 pm. She says she does not get a single day off, which may be a lie.

As they say "If her lips are moving... then.... "

She lies for a living - nothing new here.

1 hour ago, Cameroni said:

3. She said she felt sad about her phone. It would appear the problem persists, her phone switches on and off constantly. When she was texting me this was very apparent, in that messages went through only after a prolongued down time from 8 to 15 minutes or longer. This makes me think she either uses the phone or gets internet on the ipad from her phone. This would mean there is no "relative" giving her a hotspot, hence impossible to send a photo.

She wants a new phone !!... She's in a bar - texting you periodically, keeping you on the hook.

Last night was her night off.

There never was a relative giving her hot spot !!!... its all total lies just to keep you on the hook without having to prove where she is... & also hide who she 'was' really with at the time.

3 minutes ago, richard_smith237 said:

She can send you videos of you in CM, but not of her now, nor her location... hhmmmm

Yes, it was heart-wrenching to see that video. I'd forgotten all about it. We were pretending to be in a Shameless episode. She was so loud and fun, looking so beautiful.

Of course she can send videos of her and her location, she's just refusing to do so.

However, the fact that she was forced to use her phone to text yesterday, either directly, or using it as a hotspot for the Ipad gives a clue to something else:

There is no Wifi in her hotel room or condo room. Just as there is no relative given her a hotspot.

6 minutes ago, richard_smith237 said:

She wants a new phone !!..

Clearly.

6 minutes ago, richard_smith237 said:

She's in a bar - texting you periodically, keeping you on the hook.

Last night was her night off.

No. The texting pattern is exactly the same as it was in Sisaket, the usual her phone dying, her having to again restart to text on the phone or ipad. Must be so annoying. If she were in a bar she wouldn't be texting like this, my messages would go through. It's clearly a phone issue.

Im interesting to know what Cam would had said and done if this story was about his best friend!

What would you had said to him Cam considering this is your best friend ?

I still cant wrap my head around this is a true story Cam, sorry to mention it once more, still it sums up what most here have experienced if thay have been around Thailand long enough. Either by first hand experience or someone they know.

Personally I just cant see how you still continue keeping contact with her and just let her go.

If this was my friend, I would just said pull yourself together, but I know as an outsider you can say and do whatever you want, and the person in the middle of it, cant see or listen or believe anything you say, even they know the truth, and thats the most interesting about these cases. The psychology involved or behind it with denial and hope, even they know inside themselves this is not worth it.

5 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

No. The texting pattern is exactly the same as it was in Sisaket, the usual her phone dying, her having to again restart to text on the phone or ipad. Must be so annoying. If she were in a bar she wouldn't be texting like this, my messages would go through. It's clearly a phone issue.

She was never in Sisaket !!!... Jeeezzzzz

..... She was in pattaya with customers !

(it takes a split second to block and unblock someone - she's an experienced player).

6 minutes ago, richard_smith237 said:

it takes a split second to block and unblock someone - she's an experienced player

No, she's not "blocking" and "unblocking" or switching off her internet with airplane mode. That would be non-sensical and extremely annoying. She's far too lazy for that anyway.

Besides this has been going for 9 days now, exactly the same pattern. So it's clearly something she can't help. And it's clearly caused by her phone switching off constantly.

As for being in Sisaket for 2 days or not, there's no evidence for or against, only her testimony that she went there for 2 days. In the absence of contrary evidence, her testimony has to be given the benefit of the doubt. Besides, it hardly matters.

23 minutes ago, richard_smith237 said:

She can send you videos of you in CM, but not of her now, nor her location... hhmmmm

The other guy left already... didn't work out.

So she made up the name... and now you can't find it !!... sounds about right.

Still no location or photo !

As they say "If her lips are moving... then.... "

She lies for a living - nothing new here.

She wants a new phone !!... She's in a bar - texting you periodically, keeping you on the hook.

Last night was her night off.

There never was a relative giving her hot spot !!!... its all total lies just to keep you on the hook without having to prove where she is... & also hide who she 'was' really with at the time.

The bar girls I have known don't get a night off. They get a week off once a month for ladies issues.

15 minutes ago, Hummin said:

Im interesting to know what Cam would had said and done if this story was about his best friend!

What would you had said to him Cam considering this is your best friend ?

I still cant wrap my head around this is a true story Cam, sorry to mention it once more, still it sums up what most here have experienced if thay have been around Thailand long enough. Either by first hand experience or someone they know.

Personally I just cant see how you still continue keeping contact with her and just let her go.

If this was my friend, I would just said pull yourself together, but I know as an outsider you can say and do whatever you want, and the person in the middle of it, cant see or listen or believe anything you say, even they know the truth, and thats the most interesting about these cases. The psychology involved or behind it with denial and hope, even they know inside themselves this is not worth it.

It's not about psychology or anything complicated. If you love someone you don't just let go.

Obviously we're hanging by a thread. If she were to disappear for a prolongued period I would clearly also disappear.

But she was texting me all night yesterday, sending me 2 videos of us. She was teling me "I'm thinking about you".

15 minutes ago, Hummin said:

Im interesting to know what Cam would had said and done if this story was about his best friend!

What would you had said to him Cam considering this is your best friend ?

I still cant wrap my head around this is a true story Cam, sorry to mention it once more, still it sums up what most here have experienced if thay have been around Thailand long enough. Either by first hand experience or someone they know.

Personally I just cant see how you still continue keeping contact with her and just let her go.

If this was my friend, I would just said pull yourself together, but I know as an outsider you can say and do whatever you want, and the person in the middle of it, cant see or listen or believe anything you say, even they know the truth, and thats the most interesting about these cases. The psychology involved or behind it with denial and hope, even they know inside themselves this is not worth it.

Exactly. No girl is worth this trouble unless she is legitimate. Deceit, hiding location, ignoring messages unless she wants something, are all red flags that should be realized. We're all on the outside seeing this unbiased. This is just another in the long line of girls here looking for a handout, and there are thousands that will go with a man if he pays enough.

Ignoring red flags is what a lot of us have done, but it's always the wrong approach.

True love comes over time. Infatuation happens a lot faster. Lust overrides common sense, letting you think things are different than they actually are. Again, there are thousands out there that are pretty and won't make you crazy. At least not for awhile. They will keep men on a string until they are with another with the deal in hand. Lies and manipulation is a young girls game when money is involved. Letting go is what you do.

11 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

No, she's not "blocking" and "unblocking" or switching off her internet with airplane mode. That would be non-sensical and extremely annoying. She's far too lazy for that anyway.

You have no idea what she is doing - she's lying to you, playing you for a total mug and you are trying to apply 'sense'...

11 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

Besides this has been going for 9 days now, exactly the same pattern. So it's clearly something she can't help. And it's clearly caused by her phone switching off constantly.

9 days of working in a bar and sporadically using the phone, you mean ????

11 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

As for being in Sisaket for 2 days or not, there's no evidence for or against, only her testimony that she went there for 2 days. In the absence of contrary evidence, her testimony has to be given the benefit of the doubt. Besides, it hardly matters.

'Testimony'... 'evidence'... Your delusion is impressive... She was never in Sisaket - if she was, she would have proved it already - it would have been so easy to prove.

She didn't 'not prove it to spite you - she didn't prove it because she 'couldn't'... and that much is glaringly obvious to every single reader of this thread except you.

.... and if it doesn't matter that she's been smashing uglies with punters from the bars - just so long as your 'true love' finds its way - good for you... until the next punter pops along at least...

13 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

It's not about psychology or anything complicated. If you love someone you don't just let go.

Obviously we're hanging by a thread. If she were to disappear for a prolongued period I would clearly also disappear.

But she was texting me all night yesterday, sending me 2 videos of us. She was teling me "I'm thinking about you".

You didn’t answer my question, what would you have said to your best friend going through the same ?

2 hours ago, josephbloggs said:

flowery dress with massive manly feet

I think she might have diabetes.

Cameroni should consider ordering a glucose test together with the mandatory STD screening.

3 hours ago, Cameroni said:

Phuket Girl and I texted all night. She sent me two long videos she took on her Ipad when she was here, saying "cute". We were clowning around. So she's looking at photos and videos of us.

She texted me literally all night until she fell asleep. So it's not over. Nor is she with another guy, as she couldn't text all night then. Very strange to say she wants to break up and then to do this.

Our convo yielded info in the following areas:

1. She says the name of the cafe she works at is "dawn". She sent the name in Thai, google translate says it's "dawn". However, a Google/FB/Insta search reveals no Dawn cafe in Chonburi. There is a Dawn to dusk cafe in BKK. It is possible she is in BKK not Chonburi. After all, if you were trying to make a lot of money would you go to BKK or Conburi? The other possibility is she is in Chonburi and the name of the cafe is totally different.

2. She says her working hours are 8.30 am to 18.30 pm. She first texted me around 8.30 pm. She says she does not get a single day off, which may be a lie.

3. She said she felt sad about her phone. It would appear the problem persists, her phone switches on and off constantly. When she was texting me this was very apparent, in that messages went through only after a prolongued down time from 8 to 15 minutes or longer. This makes me think she either uses the phone or gets internet on the ipad from her phone. This would mean there is no "relative" giving her a hotspot, hence impossible to send a photo.

https://www.facebook.com/people/DAWN-Espresso-Nitro-Bar/61550825362321/

in Rayong.

@Cameroni Can you post a screenshot of the conversation where she writes the name of the 'cafe'?

2 hours ago, Cameroni said:

That's helpful, it does tally with the pics I saw. So that means she really is in Chonburi and the "dawn" name is most likely made up or it's an eatery without any internet presence. It makes sense, because she has no CV, and Chonburi is a more likely place to hire without CV someone with no experience waitressing.

What a misogynist thing to say. She has lovely feet and luscious full lips. Such a gorgeous woman.

How much do you imagine she can earn, working as a waitress in a cafe? Let's say 15k per month plus tips. You could easily cover that. Her strong attraction to you in conjunction with your covering the possible loss of salary, should result in her agreeing to meet you asap. Yet... 😊

Now if she were working in another industry, in Chonburi or Sri Racha or even Pattaya, meeting Japanese workers or other friendly foreigners, helping them with their language skills, she might not be quite so keen to give up that income stream.

The course of true love, eh?

The thread has already reached the end of it's credibility.

2 hours ago, fredwiggy said:

Deceit, hiding location, ignoring messages

I sometimes read these comments and I wonder if we're talking about the same girl. She NEVER ignored messages. She gave her address, possibly, so it's not clear she's hiding her location. There was some deceit when she talked about being in Sisaket but was already in Chonburi, but at that point she may have decided to break up with me due to me writing to another girl. That issue has to be factored in.

2 hours ago, richard_smith237 said:

She was never in Sisaket -

That may be a delusion of yours. You have no idea if that was the case or not. Simply because none of us have evidence to say for sure either way.

2 hours ago, richard_smith237 said:

She didn't 'not prove it to spite you - she didn't prove it because she 'couldn't'... and that much is glaringly obvious to every single reader of this thread except you.

It's actually quite likely that she couldn't be bothered to "prove" anything, because she was very angry with me still, and could not be bothered to prove anything as she decided to break up.

2 hours ago, Hummin said:

You didn’t answer my question, what would you have said to your best friend going through the same ?

Maybe I would have said go to Chonburi and find out, or just leave it, let time decide. Hard to say.

1 hour ago, FrankieGoesToHolly said:

in Rayong.

@Cameroni Can you post a screenshot of the conversation where she writes the name of the 'cafe'?

I didn't see the video but I saw the cafe in Rayong.

However, it's good to have Thai friends. with their help I have 90% certainty I know which cafe she is working at in Chonburi now.

I could post the screenshot but it's not necessary. I already know what cafe it is I think.

1 minute ago, Cameroni said:

I sometimes read these comments and I wonder if we're talking about the same girl. She NEVER ignored messages. She gave her address, possibly, so it's not clear she's hiding her location. There was some deceit when she talked about being in Sisaket but was already in Chonburi, but at that point she may have decided to break up with me due to me writing to another girl. That issue has to be factored int.

The main point is any deceit should not be tolerated, as it appears she's hiding things (men) from you. When I said ignoring, I did mean the video chats mainly, and also not giving you location details. Why wouldn't she? Think how you are, hiding things from the girls you are around. They do the same thing. For the same reasons. The only kind of woman a man should be around is one who's an open book, not hesitating before she gives you any information about her and her whereabouts. Not all things need to be said, but some things are non negotiable. Like I said before, ask yourself what you want, and deserve, then go from there. Either be with one woman or a lot of girls.

7 minutes ago, FrankieGoesToHolly said:

How much do you imagine she can earn, working as a waitress in a cafe? Let's say 15k per month plus tips. You could easily cover that. Her strong attraction to you in conjunction with your covering the possible loss of salary, should result in her agreeing to meet you asap

I made exactly the same point to my Thai friend just now. However, clearly, after she saw that I was texting several girls she decided that I was not trustworthy and she deserved better. Hence, she decided to get the 15000 herself, by working. Whether out of spite or anger, doesn't really matter. But to her now, clearly it is preferable to work 10 hour shifts in a cafe in Chonburi, then to ask me for 15000 and stay with me. This is a result of my wrongdoing, not her earning 100,000 with Japanese tourists, that's just fantasy.