2 minutes ago, TedG said:

I see it all the time in Bangkok. A hot young lady with a fat old man. It’s all about the $$$$.

Before I moved here, I used to eat at a Thai restaurant near San Antonio Texas, run by people from Korat. I saw one of the prettiest and shapeliest women there I ever saw. Thai, with a foreigner that was average at best.

4 minutes ago, TedG said:

I see it all the time in Bangkok. A hot young lady with a fat old man. It’s all about the $$$$.

Were they hookers or normal?

15 minutes ago, Harrisfan said:

I never see hot women with ugly farangs. I see 2s and 3s dating them.

you live in the same country?

6 minutes ago, fredwiggy said:

but age doesn't, again, especially here.

Well, take it from me, that 62 year old guy looks a lot worse than I do, especially now he had a major motorcycle accident and needed an operation to save his hands.

I take solace from the fact that Phuket Girl didn't even comment on his pity seeking FB pics where he posted his x rays and operation updates.

Poor guy. Goes to show, even with money your life can be pitiful.

6 minutes ago, Harrisfan said:

Were they hookers or normal?

They don’t wear labels.

1 minute ago, Cameroni said:

Well, take it from me, that 62 year old guy looks a lot worse than I do, especially now he had a major motorcycle accident and needed an operation to save his hands.

I take solace from the fact that Phuket Girl didn't even comment on his pity seeking FB pics where he posted his x rays and operation updates.

Poor guy. Goes to show, even with money your life can be pitiful.

Remember that you don't know how he treated her. If she was with him, there was some attraction there. Likely the cash, which is why you have to look at her motives. These you might never know, as their true feelings might never come out, and when people think a woman's only out for a man's money, it doesn't look good to anyone. Him having an accident and if that's the reason she left shows a lot more of her character. You would need to know why she left him, or it might have been him leaving her, realizing what she's all about. No one ever knows what others are thinking or their motives until they show in time.

10 minutes ago, fredwiggy said:

I saw one of the prettiest and shapeliest women there I ever saw. Thai, with a foreigner that was average at best.

I said it before and I'll say it again. Women are multi-facetted, they seek a lot of things. They are not primarily about money (unless they're hookers) nor primarily about looks (unless they're superficial). Like us, they want a lot of things, a full package. Phuket Girl said her main consideration was a "good heart" and there is meaning behind that, it's not just a phrase. Other girls will seek different things.

5 minutes ago, TedG said:

They don’t wear labels.

Easy to spot a hooker

13 minutes ago, save the frogs said:

you live in the same country?

Post some photos

Just now, fredwiggy said:

Remember that you don't know how he treated her. If she was with him, there was some attraction there

Oh for sure. From what I gather he had a good heart. He would take her out to the beach once a week, they'd watch volleyball. He'd pay for all her food, drinks, shopping etc as he had a lot of money. He treated her well. Until he accused her of losing him a tenant, when he unapologetically insisted Phuket Girl was to blame, and she insisted he was as he hadn't instructed her properly. To this day this rankles with her. She also thought he played with other women, hence she cheated on him. They only had sex once a week, supposedly.

2 minutes ago, fredwiggy said:

Likely the cash, which is why you have to look at her motives.

He only gave her 10,000 baht a month. Not a lot.

2 minutes ago, fredwiggy said:

Him having an accident and if that's the reason she left

No it's not, see above. He had the accident whilst she was with me. She asked my permission to check up on him via phone.

Just now, Cameroni said:

I said it before and I'll say it again. Women are multi-facetted, they seek a lot of things. They are not primarily about money (unless they're hookers) nor primarily about looks (unless they're superficial). Like us, they want a lot of things, a full package. Phuket Girl said her main consideration was a "good heart" and there is meaning behind that, it's not just a phrase. Other girls will seek different things.

I know full well what women are all about. I took the time to learn after my first marriage, trying to see what I could do better and how to understand them more.

Some are greedy and money is all they care about.

Some want a relationship with a decent man, yet still want to be provided for.

Traditional marriage is still a good thing, as long as one isn't a leech and does their share. Many women say they want certain things, like a good heart , non smoker, drinker, drug free, family oriented, but still end up with jerkoffs because they're attraction is still power and money first. Many bad boys end up with great women because of a woman's bad choices, based on unrealistic expectations and fantasy. Bottom line is you never know what they want, or how they are, unless you take a lot of time to see them in all moods and situations.

2 minutes ago, fredwiggy said:

Bottom line is you never know what they want, or how they are, unless you take a lot of time to see them in all moods and situations.

Exactly, they're all different. So how can you know what "women are all about" if there is no generic woman?

Some women go for serial killers.

Some go for tatooed Bogans.

3 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

Oh for sure. From what I gather he had a good heart. He would take her out to the beach once a week, they'd watch volleyball. He'd pay for all her food, drinks, shopping etc as he had a lot of money. He treated her well. Until he accused her of losing him a tenant, when he unapologetically insisted Phuket Girl was to blame, and she insisted he was as he hadn't instructed her properly. To this day this rankles with her. She also thought he played with other women, hence she cheated on him.

He only gave her 10,000 baht a month. Not a lot.

No it's not, see above. He had the accident whilst she was with me. She asked my permission to check up on him via phone.

Remember you are only hearing one side of the story. You still only hear why she left from her. The truth could be a whole lot different.

1 minute ago, fredwiggy said:

you are only hearing one side of the story. You still only hear why she left from her. The truth could be a whole lot different.

Fair point well made. But of course I can only go on the info I have.

Just now, Cameroni said:

Exactly, they're all different. So how can you know what "women are all about" if there is no generic woman?

By being with many, reading all you can on how they think, why they do what they do, and how to avoid toxic women. That last one took awhile for me, as attraction did me in here. I didn't fully understand what a covert narcissist was and how they operate, only knowing about malignant ones. After reading countless articles about them, I can see what I overlooked.

1 minute ago, fredwiggy said:

By being with many, reading all you can on how they think, why they do what they do, and how to avoid toxic women. That last one took awhile for me, as attraction did me in here. I didn't fully understand what a covert narcissist was and how they operate, only knowing about malignant ones. After reading countless articles about them, I can see what I overlooked.

I suppose the two obvious things they seek is a provider (money) and good genes (good looks) but it is a lot more complex and multi-layered than that, isn't it?

11 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

Exactly, they're all different. So how can you know what "women are all about" if there is no generic woman?

Some women go for serial killers.

Some go for tatooed Bogans.

Chicks in Oz love bogans.

3 minutes ago, Harrisfan said:

Chicks in Oz love bogans.

Thankfully Phuket Girl has refined and sophisticated tastes. Which is no doubt why she's so attracted to me...

5 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

I suppose the two obvious things they seek is a provider (money) and good genes (good looks) but it is a lot more complex and multi-layered than that, isn't it?

They don't seek good looks. Attraction isn't a choice and just happens. The world's problems are mainly based on this attraction, as good people fall prey to bad because of attraction. Most women do want a provider, seeing through generations how having a deadbeat has ruined many relationships. This doesn't stop it from happening, because of that attraction and unrealistic expectations.

Many good men are tossed aside because of this fantasy thinking. Many men end up with greedy leeches for the same reasons. Everyone gets old, loses looks and shape eventually, but the heart doesn't fade if it's real. The worst mistake people make is not taking the time to get to really know the other. Lust comes and blinds until that fades and you see what's really there.

1 minute ago, fredwiggy said:

The worst mistake people make is not taking the time to get to really know the other.

Well, I'm trying. Maybe she'll let me visit in Chon Buri eventually. Who knows. It'd make little sense to just turn up, she'd be blindsided and not like it.

I did that with BKK girl in BKK once, and whilst she did come, only on the second day and she scolded me for not arranging first with her so she could prepare and take time out with her family. That first night in the hotel alone was torture...

26 minutes ago, Harrisfan said:

Post some photos

you want me to take photos of couples on the streets?

that would be creepy.

but I did see a guy at an ATM and his squeeze was half-naked next to him waiting to withdraw money. my phone was turned off, but that would have been a classic.

1 minute ago, save the frogs said:

you want me to take photos of couples on the streets?

that would be creepy.

but I did see a guy at an ATM and his squeeze was half-naked next to him waiting to withdraw money. my phone was turned off, but that would have been a classic.

Hookers

Just now, save the frogs said:

you want me to take photos of couples on the streets?

that would be creepy.

but I did see a guy at an ATM and his squeeze was half-naked next to him waiting to withdraw money. my phone was turned off, but that would have been a classic.

Yes, it would fill a book to do that in Thailand, I remember once on that escalator in Pattaya, that giant man mountain with a gray beard, gigantic beer belly, wearing a sleeveless and next to him this slender Thai beauty. Just unforgettable.

3 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

Well, I'm trying. Maybe she'll let me visit in Chon Buri eventually. Who knows. It'd make little sense to just turn up, she'd be blindsided and not like it.

I did that with BKK girl in BKK once, and whilst she did come, only on the second day and she scolded me for not arranging first with her so she could prepare and take time out with her family. That first night in the hotel alone was torture...

I think everyone here is still wondering why you want to bother with this girl, seeing she already knows what you did and she also showed some insincerity and deception. Why not find another, seeing pretty girls are all over the country in every possible area?

12 minutes ago, Harrisfan said:

Chicks in Oz love bogans.

Without a doubt, you make the Bogan top 10 list yet you still can't pull a bird. You must be hideous.

1 minute ago, fredwiggy said:

I think everyone here is still wondering why you want to bother with this girl, seeing she already knows what you did and she also showed some insincerity and deception. Why not find another, seeing pretty girls are all over the country in every possible area?

Well, again, it's not just that I like her slender waist, child bearing hips, long legs, cute feet and hands, long spectacular hair, or that she has the world's most attractive breasts. Nor is it because of her amazing kissing ability or the fact that her hands have the touch, she can massage like a pro. It's not that she is warm, affectionate, tactile and enjoys sexuality unshamedly. It's not her intoxicating lovely fragrance, sweet like a flower. Nor is it her adorable sweet voice, loud and energetic, yet melodious and controlled. Not the way she walks, though i loved that too. So proud and fit like a panther. She kills it on the badminton court. No, it's also her character. She likes to stay at home, doesn't drink, doesn't smoke, doesn't even like weed. She's fair, good hearted, intelligent. Her energy is fun and vibrant, the kind of person who when she enters a room makes everyone take notice of her quiet magnetism.

But most of all, she's easy to love. Uncomplicated. When I want to take her out, half the time she doesn't want to go out, just likes to sit at home and watch Netflix. She respects her man, but she is her own woman.

Her deception, don't forget came after she found out mine, so I have to give her some leeway there. I really like her. It would be a tragedy if we need to part.

She's texting me a lot today again.

1 minute ago, Cameroni said:

Well, again, it's not just that I like her slender waist, child bearing hips, long legs, cute feet and hands, or that she has the world's most attractive breasts. Nor is it because of her amazing kissing ability or the fact that her hands have the touch, she can massage like a pro. It's not that she is warm, affectionate, tactile and enjoys sexuality unshamedly. It's not her intoxicating lovely fragrance, sweet like a flower. Nor is it her adorable sweet voice, loud and energetic, yet melodious and controlled. Not the way she walks, though i loved that too. So proud and fit like a panther. She kills it on the badminton court. No, it's also her character. She likes to stay at home, doesn't drink, doesn't smoke, doesn't even like weed. She's fair, good hearted, intelligent. Her energy is fun and vibrant, the kind of person who when she enters a room makes everyone take notice of her quiet magnetism.

But most of all, she's easy to love. Uncomplicated. When I want to take her out, half the time she doesn't want to go out, just likes to sit at home and watch Netflix. She respects her man, but she is her own woman.

Her deception, don't forget came after she found out mine, so I have to give her some leeway there. I really like her. It would be a tragedy if we need to part.

She's texting me a lot today again.

If she's all that, why would you risk losing it by talking to others? She's a lot like many other attractive girls here, at least at first. That can also describe my ex wife here, until I moved here and found out what she was really like. Again, you know very little besides the good things, and they all have some of those. Child bearing hips? That's not something men look for as they all can give birth. Again, if she's a good one, you don't play games, as they're very hard to come by.

11 minutes ago, Keeps said:

Without a doubt, you make the Bogan top 10 list yet you still can't pull a bird. You must be hideous.

I'm 0% bogan. Why did you move to Thailand if you are so successful with women back home? Loser

1 minute ago, fredwiggy said:

If she's all that, why would you risk losing it by talking to others?

I thought whether I should block BKK girl and Filipina virgin, as I was keenly aware that talking to them could end my rel with Phuket Girl. I did initially. But I felt bad about blocking these two, who had meant something to me as I'd known them for years. So I unblocked them. And they texted me. And I thought nothing about texting them back. It was just habit. I'd been doing it for years. I actually never wanted BKK girl to come back. It's just she'd mentioned she'd come in October, then November, then December and I wanted to say "are you coming in Jan? What's your intention or are you just a liar?". Just male vanity, to know what her intentions were, if she still cared for me. But it looked like I was asking her to come. I really wasn't. It was cure pure curiosity and vanity mixed together.

Plus I never thought Phuket girl would see the texts. But yah, that was damn foolish. Next level stupid. Because I had a real princess by my side, a baddie, a major Tiger. And I managed to screw it up so bad.

But don't forget, Phuket girl twice threatened to fly back to Phuket due to arguments. And she talked about loving the beach, not liking CM. So initially I wasn't sure if she'd even stay in my life. So it was a natural human desire to keep previous pots boiling. Bad move though.

Oh my God, she only gets paid 300 Baht per day!

That's only 8400 per month!

It's a small coffe, tea and cake place.