6 minutes ago, Gottfrid said:

Please, get over it! I posted that it will be very hard for you to get 100% out of a house sale in Thailand. That´s not personal. That´s a fact that affects every foreigner in Thailand when thing do not turn out as expected. Instead you should think, before posted such drivel.

Maybe you should actually have some on hand experience in court matters here, like I do, before you again assume the outcome of anyone's personal situation. I don't have to get over anything. This is my personal business and your comments mean nothing, as you have no idea.

I'm the one who's actually talked to 4 lawyers here, retaining one, who told me what to expect. This after I also researched and was involved in the same thing back home, which is very close to what happens here, as Thai courts reflect western ideals. I know full well what to expect. 100% to 50% or nothing from the ex and I sell it myself, which can also be a few outcomes. I can also tear the house down so no one gets it and we just leave.Drivel is others assuming they know what's going on in your life.Then commenting on that assumption.

27 minutes ago, fredwiggy said:

Maybe you should actually have some on hand experience in court matters here, like I do, before you again assume the outcome of anyone's personal situation. I don't have to get over anything. This is my personal business and your comments mean nothing, as you have no idea.

I'm the one who's actually talked to 4 lawyers here, retaining one, who told me what to expect. This after I also researched and was involved in the same thing back home, which is very close to what happens here, as Thai courts reflect western ideals. I know full well what to expect. 100% to 50% or nothing from the ex and I sell it myself, which can also be a few outcomes. I can also tear the house down so no one gets it and we just leave.Drivel is others assuming they know what's going on in your life.Then commenting on that assumption.

You're always claiming to be wealthy and generous, Christian values of forgiveness, and treat your wives well. If that were true, surely you'd just let her keep the house?

I'd certainly let mine keep the house (shed need to find the remaining 10 years of repayments), and I make no pretence of being kind or nice!

1 minute ago, BritManToo said:

You're always claiming to be wealthy and generous, Christian values of forgiveness, and treat your wives well. If that were true, surely you'd just let her keep the house?

I've never said I was wealthy. Why give a house to a woman who cheated, hit me and my daughter, kidnapped her 4 times for minor arguments, lied, didn't contribute anything besides chaos, and is still acting the same way? That would be rewarding bad behavior, which is the way it continues. Yes, forgiveness is necessary, but only comes when bad behavior towards you ceases.

53 minutes ago, fredwiggy said:

Maybe you should actually have some on hand experience in court matters here, like I do, before you again assume the outcome of anyone's personal situation. I don't have to get over anything. This is my personal business and your comments mean nothing, as you have no idea.

I'm the one who's actually talked to 4 lawyers here, retaining one, who told me what to expect. This after I also researched and was involved in the same thing back home, which is very close to what happens here, as Thai courts reflect western ideals. I know full well what to expect. 100% to 50% or nothing from the ex and I sell it myself, which can also be a few outcomes. I can also tear the house down so no one gets it and we just leave.Drivel is others assuming they know what's going on in your life.Then commenting on that assumption.

Marvelous Freddy! As usual, you have an amazing experience of everything, and you are an oracle by knowing all the facts of everything. Your knowledge rules! oh, wait a minute! Let´s get down to reality.

You are totally clueless.! Lawyers in Thailand, they paint up gold and green fields for everyone. They kind of do that, for you to choose them and pay their fees. People who lived here for a while and not locked in believing they have all the facts already. You know, people who listens to what goes on around. What has happened to other people, and things like that. They know that you would have a lot of problem getting enough out of a house sale, disregarding if you in reality paid the full amount.

Anyway, that seems to be totally irrelevant now, as you apparently not need it, and would be happy to move the house down, so she could not get anything out of it, if you don´t get your money back. You know, Freddy, that just isn't going to work. If you do that, you are moving down a property, that the court decided you have no full rights to sell, and then you ex will sue you and win.

After that, Thai courts reflect western ideals! Are you serious? You don´t have a clue what to expect! You think you can just move down the house if you don´t get like you want! This is getting more and more out of order, mentally disorientated and hilariously funny for every comment you make. 😂

The only one here with a load of massive drivel is you, Freddy! You are living with a lot of assumptions, that unfortunately will not be possible nor materialize. With your recent backtracking, and sudden change from getting 100% to tearing the house down, your absolute best option would be to just leave and forget about it. You made some horrible mistakes in life. Most of us make a few, but the ones that comes out on top, are the ones who adapt, and just leave it behind to continue looking forward.

18 minutes ago, fredwiggy said:

I've never said I was wealthy. Why give a house to a woman who cheated, hit me and my daughter, kidnapped her 4 times for minor arguments, lied, didn't contribute anything besides chaos, and is still acting the same way? That would be rewarding bad behavior, which is the way it continues. Yes, forgiveness is necessary, but only comes when bad behavior towards you ceases.

From talking about expectations to get 100% out of a Thai house sale, to tear a house down if you don´t get like you want and expect, is kind of saying same as you don´t care about the money, which could be interpreted as the words of a wealthy person. I fully understand you way of thinking here, and how it must feel in such a bad situation. However, if you take that fight, you are sure to lose, and instead of getting any money at all, you will end up paying out of your nose for continuing to make seriously bad mistakes.

@fredwiggy I good advice if you don´t want people to comment on your business, would be to just not publish information about them on a public forum.

After that, if you paid 100% of the cost in Thailand for a house has very little to no relevance.

Your name is not on the land the house stands on, which basically mean she can forbid you to access the house until a court order is handed to her that says different.

Your name is probably not as the owner of the house, which means that she owns it, according to the Thai law, and you must fight in court to get access to it, or part of sale from it.

When you chose to pay 100% for a house in Thailand, you also agreed to that you had no claim on the money invested for the house.

All the above are not assumptions. It regards every foreigner in Thailand and are pure facts out of a legal perspective.

9 minutes ago, Gottfrid said:

@fredwiggy I good advice if you don´t want people to comment on your business, would be to just not publish information about them on a public forum.

After that, if you paid 100% of the cost in Thailand for a house has very little to no relevance.

Your name is not on the land the house stands on, which basically mean she can forbid you to access the house until a court order is handed to her that says different.

Your name is probably not as the owner of the house, which means that she owns it, according to the Thai law, and you must fight in court to get access to it, or part of sale from it.

When you chose to pay 100% for a house in Thailand, you also agreed to that you had no claim on the money invested for the house.

All the above are not assumptions. It regards every foreigner in Thailand and are pure facts out of a legal perspective.

I've been living in the house for the last 7+ years, and she tried to get the house in the divorce but her lawyer, and the judge, said I can stay in it as long as I want. Again you're assuming without knowledge, and again, that never works.

I already said my plans and there isn't a need to repeat them.

The money that went into building the house came directly from my bank account in Texas, and the receipts for the materials have my name on them. She contributed nothing and the land is government land in grandma's name.

As I've said many times before, you don't assume what goes on in other's lives unless you actually know them, and know them well. You also don't assume what other's know about the laws, or how much time they've invested in research. There are no pure facts as every situation is different, and what happened to a few other foreigners here has nothing to do with anyone but them. Again, Cameroni's post.

3 hours ago, fredwiggy said:

I've been living in the house for the last 7+ years, and she tried to get the house in the divorce but her lawyer, and the judge, said I can stay in it as long as I want. Again you're assuming without knowledge, and again, that never works.

I already said my plans and there isn't a need to repeat them.

The money that went into building the house came directly from my bank account in Texas, and the receipts for the materials have my name on them. She contributed nothing and the land is government land in grandma's name.

As I've said many times before, you don't assume what goes on in other's lives unless you actually know them, and know them well. You also don't assume what other's know about the laws, or how much time they've invested in research. There are no pure facts as every situation is different, and what happened to a few other foreigners here has nothing to do with anyone but them. Again, Cameroni's post.

Still not assuming. Now I will, though. I assume you have a usufruct. If so, that will give you the right to use the house as long as you wish, live or the building will be destroyed. See, now I am assuming. I will continue with that. If this is a fact, that will not in any way affect how you are treated when selling the house.

Good luck with the sale, and good luck with your plans. I will leave it here, as I don´t feel the need to repeat more as well.

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Life is good 😊 Where's @Cameroni? 😊

19 minutes ago, Hummin said:

And why is it good? Thats interesting to know.

Life is good for Cameroni.

Because he's having too much fun to be posting here.

1 minute ago, save the frogs said:

Life is good for Cameroni.

Because he's having too much fun to be posting here.

Usually, he's giving up a 'blow by blow' account of everything that happens. But I don't think he likes that the initial impression that he gave of her, has stuck throughout the thread.

Bickering posts removed

1 hour ago, IsmeUno said:

Life is good 😊 Where's @Cameroni? 😊

Read the other thread. He just got married.

8 minutes ago, emptypockets said:

Read the other thread. He just got married.

Other thread? Where? What? 😊

4 hours ago, IsmeUno said:

Other thread? Where? What? 😊

The one where two Austrian guys married one Thai lady.

My guess is one is Cameroni, the other pig man.

16 minutes ago, emptypockets said:

The one where two Austrian guys married one Thai lady.

My guess is one is Cameroni, the other pig man.

I must admit that was my first thought when I saw the thread title.

No, Pigman is truly hideous. I would never share anything with him. Let alone a gorgeous 25 year old.

1 hour ago, Cameroni said:

No, Pigman is truly hideous. I would never share anything with him. Let alone a gorgeous 25 year old.

At least Austrians are willing to share

On 2/28/2026 at 5:24 PM, save the frogs said:

Some girls, depending on their job, probably cannot get a mortgage.

True, not the ones most farangs seem to hang around with, they go for the poor ones as they are the only ones available to them, there are many Thai women who do get mortgages etc but they don't usually hang around in bars for some farangs to pick up.

They are usually out of the reach of most farangs as far as I have seen, there are exceptions of course.

On 2/28/2026 at 9:13 PM, mangkut70 said:

Not a bad idea if you don’t really trust your partner and don’t have kids.

I chose a different path and don’t have any problem with the fact that all the Thai property is in my wife’s name. I didn’t even try to get my name on any paperwork. She also kept her Thai name (actually, this made things a lot easier when she inherited some land from her father and had to transfer it into her name).

After more than 20 years together, knowing she has always stood by my side when life got difficult, she would bloody well deserve every last baht of it in the unlikely event we ever broke up. We have two kids...in the end it’s just heritage for them anyway.

100% of the house I live in is in my partners name, it should be as she paid for it with her own money as well as the other houses she has bought and rents out.

I own my property 100% in the England which gives me rental income plus a pension on top which makes for a very healthy stress free long term relationship.

I pay my way by paying for our supplies etc as she likes doing home cooking and I like Australian meat etc so it is fair that I pay my way.

I have seen many a farang cry into their beer both in Thailand and England after being ripped off by their ex wife or girlfriend, the vast majority as far as my experience over 35 years of what the farangs told me seem to be the women are from Isan.

2 hours ago, Cameroni said:

No, Pigman is truly hideous. I would never share anything with him. Let alone a gorgeous 25 year old.

All you have to do now is find a gorgeous 25 year old and then not share her with him.

That might be a bit of a stumbling block. 😃

2 hours ago, Cameroni said:

No, Pigman is truly hideous. I would never share anything with him. Let alone a gorgeous 25 year old.

When you and the Australian both marry her, I'll be honored to photograph the wedding.

13 minutes ago, JamesPhuket10 said:

I have seen many a farang cry into their beer both in Thailand and England after being ripped off by their ex wife or girlfriend, the vast majority as far as my experience over 35 years of what the farangs told me seem to be the women are from Isan.

I've been thinking this too when hearing these ridiculous stories out of Thailand. It's 99% from Isaan women. I've only ever lived in the north but I don't see that happening here except on very rare occasions. Aren't these women embarrassed for themselves? I don't get it.

Thailand may be a single country but these different regions are comprised of different ethnic groups so we can't compare them all as being simply Thai.

3 minutes ago, NorthernRyland said:

I've been thinking this too when hearing these ridiculous stories out of Thailand. It's 99% from Isaan women. I've only ever lived in the north but I don't see that happening here except on very rare occasions. Aren't these women embarrassed for themselves? I don't get it.

Thailand may be a single country but these different regions are comprised of different ethnic groups so we can't compare them all as being simply Thai.

True, Isan has only been part of Thailand for 150 years, before it was in Laos, they have their own language, own culture, many (not all) of them seem to like to party, drink and gamble, completely different to the average Thai woman from say the South for example and Thais do not regard them as being really Thai.

I a not being nasty, I am just saying what I have been told by Thais over the last 30+ years, I did not make up their rules, I just observe them.

It is similar to the people in the UK, a Scotsman or Welsh would be annoyed if they were mistaken for English and would soon let you know, if an English guy was mistaken for a Scot or Welsh we would just say we are English.

I have seen this a lot while working in Germany as they call all of us English and England, the Scots and Welsh hate it.

7 hours ago, save the frogs said:

Life is good for Cameroni.

Because he's having too much fun to be posting here.

Life is good, in a way now. Every day is an adventure with Phuket Girl. It's interesting.

There is turbulence though, as anticipated.

Just now, JamesPhuket10 said:

True, Isan has only been part of Thailand for 150 years, before it was in Laos, they have their own language, own culture, they seem to like to party, drink and gamble, completely different to the average Thai woman from say the South for example and Thais do not regard them as being really Thai.

I a not being nasty, I am just saying what I have told by Thais over the last 30+ years, I did not make up their rules, I just observe them.

I've only lived in the north and I struggle greatly to understand those Isaan people. Even though my wife is northern (Dad is Thai from Sing buri and Mother is an ethnic Burmese minority from Phaya ) we still speak central Thai together and when they really go off in the northern Thai I get lost too. I struggle to say all these groups are merely "Thai".

My question is how do Thai people from say Bangkok regard these Isaan people? I've heard first hand Thai speaking, Thai born people tell me they aren't Thai but rather "isaan" or Thai yai.

Thailand has it's own empire of sorts which trying to contain these other groups within their borders but it's up those people if they see themselves as Thai.

2 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

Life is good, in a way now. Every day is an adventure with Phuket Girl. It's interesting.

There is turbulence though, as anticipated.

Isan girl you mean, people are not normally given a nickname from the area they work in, it is normally the area they were born in eg Isan.

2 minutes ago, NorthernRyland said:

I've only lived in the north and I struggle greatly to understand those Isaan people. Even though my wife is northern (Dad is Thai from Sing buri and Mother is an ethnic Burmese minority from Phaya ) we still speak central Thai together and when they really go off in the northern Thai I get lost too. I struggle to say all these groups are merely "Thai".

My question is how do Thai people from say Bangkok regard these Isaan people? I've heard first hand Thai speaking, Thai born people tell me they aren't Thai but rather "isaan" or Thai yai.

Thailand has it's own empire of sorts which trying to contain these other groups within their borders but it's up those people if they see themselves as Thai.

I know of Thai men from Bangkok being disinherited from their fathers will as they married what the father regarded as a low class Isaan women, I was told they are to be used as conchais (servants) and have no place being a wife.

Again this is what I have been told from Thai people directly, they are not my rules.

An Australian friend had a bar in Phuket, he said he has been learning Thai at a school for a few years , he said it is a total waste of time with his wife who runs the bar and the bar staff as they are all from Isaan, we did laugh.

3 minutes ago, JamesPhuket10 said:

I know of Thai men from Bangkok being disinherited from their fathers will as they married what the father regarded as a low class Isaan women, I was told they are to be used as conchais (servants) and have no place being a wife.

Again this is what I have been told from Thai people directly, they are not my rules.

An Australian friend had a bar in Phuket, he said he has been learning Thai at a school for a few years , he said it is a total waste of time with his wife who runs the bar and the bar staff as they are all from Isaan, we did laugh.

It really is another language in its own right. I'm American but it's not comparable to any of the region accents in the US OR the UK. It's an entirely new vocabulary for many words. It's interesting too you could usually tell a person you don't understand them and they can switch to standard central Thai but even so the older people actually struggle with this too and you can see them thinking through their thoughts to find the right words.

Anyways, I'm no so status driven as many Thais but I see their point. Being poor and making the best of your situation is one thing but trying to marry out of it by selling your body is another, and both are not equally honorable.

1 minute ago, theshu25 said:

Definately not. I do not argue and bicker at everyones posts all day. I was enjoying this thread until 2 losers came along.

I don't think it was the posters who have caused Cannelloni to disappear, he realised what he was saying was contradictory and all in his head, he finally realised what the rest of use were saying makes sense, but in any case none of the content is these chats mean anything, this is not the real world, for me it is just a laugh in between my 'work' as a programmer, I find it all really funny.

35 minutes ago, JamesPhuket10 said:

An Australian friend had a bar in Phuket, he said he has been learning Thai at a school for a few years , he said it is a total waste of time with his wife who runs the bar and the bar staff as they are all from Isaan, we did laugh.

I looked on TikTok and found this. This Isaan lady (damn hard to understand) is explaining what happens with assets after the old Farang dies. They're sharing this stuff on social media and getting other women in on it too.

OK fair fair enough if that's a good option for you then enjoy but have no illusions these are gold diggers willing to play ball in order to get a pay out in the end.