9 hours ago, Franck60 said:

Yes, I wouldn’t feel comfortable to go and live in my girlfriend’s village. I think for her, it means to stay stuck in the past … and this enmeshment among the community. She has to move on a bit,

Ideally, but then the land could draw us there, just thinking ahead if things were to progress.

3 hours ago, Hummin said:

I could move anywhere, but where I am now in Isaan is my home and base for now. Later when I am getting older, I might move somewhere else, and it is in the plan, but when ? I do not know. Still not 60, so got plenty of time to decide, but right now it feels good to have the freedom of living rural and no neighbours close by, have a view and live a quite peaceful life, and still have to options open.

It does sound very appealing in many ways. Hence I could see myself doing a similar thing.

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2 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

It does sound very appealing in many ways. Hence I could see myself doing a similar thing.

Timing is the the clue, do not forget that!

We moved, because I called a friend of mine who worked with pandemics, and asked her, and this was end of January or beginning of February 2020, and she rolled out the most likely scenario for me, and thanks to her, we packed up, and moved to her family. We already had bungalow, but no electricity. So in few moths we moved to the first stage of our farm.

So, remember, before when visiting her family, I was just as everyone else thinking, I cant live here, and thats true. I couldnt live like her parents do, with neighbours, chickens dogs, village chief morning music and talks, the drunk neighbours, and everything that comes with a rural village life.

I Had already installed water pump, shower, heater, water tank, aircondition, a new kitchen, so we could live there, but I needed space, so therefor we continue to build on her farmland.

Through experience, I got more familiar to the idea, and I learned her family to be a good family, and not what you often hear. Still, living with people around me in that kind of setting or environment, is not what I want, even the house had quite good standard as it was, I cant live in a Thai village, and Im not sure Im especially good with neighbours at all. I prefer space, peace and quiet more than anything else.

Remember, everything has its own timing, and if you are in daily conflict with your young love, forget about it, you do not need that living in Isaan, then you have better options.

Last but not least, what you invest in Isaan, you cant take with you, unless you secure yourself with everything you have, it will take time to got your rights done the legal way. So invest only what you can turn your back to, and never return.

16 hours ago, Cameroni said:

No. As you will recall, she'd sent him a message that it was over and blocked him. I'd rather hoped that would be it. But I had underestimated how desperate the fat pigman is, at age 63, he knows, he could never get a 25 year old like her again. I'd also underestimated the extent of their pair bond. They'd talked for a year and lived together 6 months. Apparently pigman is totally fine she cheats on him. Like me with BKK girl, Phuket girl found it hard to block the ex, after she did so, she again unblocked. I saw the convo. Pigman was then obviously encouraged and sent 20 messages, professing his love.

It was touch and go for a while, hanging by a thread, as I obviously did not take that well. I again insisted he be blocked. She did so again, after initial threats to go back to Phuket. Then she stayed. However, I then found out she again unblocked him. She never sent him much. One word messages. "Hahaha" "good", but he sent 20 messages begging her to come back.

She kept him blocked on Whatsapp, but she then wrote him on Line. Pigman still thinks she will come back to him. I asked her to block him and she did again.

So, he is still full of hope, desperate and not giving up. Also, as her unblocking and sporadic texts encouraged him.

Remember one thing. When a woman cheats on another man to be with you, she will certainly do the same to you. A girl that still needs to talk to others while she's sleeping with you is also not one where trust means much to her. You're always on guard wanting to search her phone, and that's not a way to live.

Talking about building a house with this type is a total waste of time, along with the fact you'll likely be very bored living in Ubon Ratchathani, especially if you like the beaches. Yes, you could drive there if you buy a car, but 9 hours each way isn't fun.

As far as the Austrian (calling him pigman shows jealousy), if he got her he can get others, as this is Thailand where the cash talks most.

One bit of advice that everyone should listen to here is to first rent, live a year, then see.

1 hour ago, Cameroni said:

Ideally, but then the land could draw us there, just thinking ahead if things were to progress.

Don’t let her land get in the way with your own decision-making.

Beside the most likely problematic proximity to the family - there is

- a good chance its just some farmland somewhere nowhere (no electric, water, road etc.)

– a good chance its not for free but actually encumbered with a mortgage, the chanote is held by the bank as collateral , and you are the chosen lucky guy to pay off the loan before building a house for her family.

2 hours ago, Cameroni said:

The sister was never a bargirl nor lived in Phuket. That was a lie to cover her living with the Pig.

The sister does exist. I saw photos, PG never said she doesn't exist.

She was lying to you ? - Nooooo.. Honourable PhuketGirl lieing - Say it isn't true !!!

... She hasn't stopped lying to you since you met - as the phrase goes "if her lips are moving....."

... But you defend each new lie to the death with a level of belief and gullibility that remains astonishing...

She told you her sister is a bar girl - and she doesn't want do do the same.

She then told she 'wants' to be a bar girl - changed her story.

She told you her sister is bar girl - and gives her money.

She has told you so many lies you are lost in her words - ultimately ONLY believing what your ego allows you to beleive.

PG is a normal girl, the sister is not a bar girl.

As for the kids.. well - thats going to really drop the bomb on you when you do find out the reality.

On 10/27/2025 at 12:00 PM, Cameroni said:

That's just it! She's not a prostitute. She said her sister is a bar girl but she doesn't want to do that and can't bear to see her sister with men. 

On 1/7/2026 at 6:28 AM, Cameroni said:

I really was surprised at Phuket Girl's honesty, that she found the idea of being a bar girl enticing, because of the great money.

On 10/27/2025 at 12:28 PM, Cameroni said:

She does nothing for a living, her sister is a bargirl and gives her 200 baht each day.

On 10/27/2025 at 12:37 PM, Cameroni said:

I considered that as well. Particularly, as she always disappears from 10 to 2 am. She may well be a bar girl as well, which would be the end of it.

Even early on you realised that PG was a bar girl... You have allowed yourself to pull the wool over your own-eyes.

2 hours ago, Cameroni said:

... So I guess if things progress I'd pay for mother, father, the two kids and her.

...PG unblocked her ex and texted him. I'd actually asked her to leave, and drove her to the bus station. At the bus station she asked about a ticket, but then didn't buy one. Said she'd like to have lunch, Then lunch turned to dinner, and she never left. I again insisted the ex has to be blocked, she said she did and then I checked and she unblocked him again, texting him on Liine instead of Whatsapp. I saw it, and the guy is blocked again, his chat deleted now. But clearly it is becoming very hard to believe what PG says.

.. I don't feel she's fully in. This texting other guys has to stop. I don't feel she's fully honest, not reliable and making almost no effort to show trustworthiness, after what she did.

In addition, she seems to be doing housework as an afterthought, it's a mess here. I said I'll get the cleaner, and she protests she'll do it, but then doesn't do much.

Clearly, our limerence phase is over, and we're having to deal with real world issues now, and it's not going smoothely. We're stilling having a good time, went out yesterday, she's still fun and entertaining, but I have serious concerns.

I hope you realize how many alarm bells are ringing here—yet again.

Is it worth all the stress? If even half of what you've said about yourself (age, looks, relative affluence…) is true, there are probably thousands of girls in the region who'd happily take the deal, settle down with you without all the drama and bs, hoping for a good life as a farang's wifey.

You can stay a 'good catch' well past 60 or 70, but for PG the clock is ticking. Traditionally, if an Asian girl is not married by her mid-20s, the train left. So, if she's serious about settling down, getting married, and having kids, it's high time to make it happen.

Has PG been married before? Maybe just a temple ceremony locally, without registering officially at the amphoe?

33 minutes ago, mangkut70 said:

Don’t let her land get in the way with your own decision-making.

Beside the most likely problematic proximity to the family - there is

- a good chance its just some farmland somewhere nowhere (no electric, water, road etc.)

– a good chance its not for free but actually encumbered with a mortgage, the chanote is held by the bank as collateral , and you are the chosen lucky guy to pay off the loan before building a house for her family.

She’s told him she owns land. And in a wonderfully transparent act of desperation to legitimise her, he’s upgraded the narrative from “she might be a bar girl” (see earlier quote) to “she’s a major landowner”... (eye roll)...

Cam has taken this little turd, polished it, rolled it in glitter, sprayed half a can of deodorant over it - and after all that effort he’s somehow managed to convince himself it’s actually a diamond.

The likelihood of her personally owning land is somewhere between minimal and non-existent. The extended family may have some land somewhere - maybe rented out, maybe a patch of farmland, maybe a bit of scrub with no utilities and no real value. As you mentioned, the far more common situation is that the land is tied up with debt anyway.

As this saga unfolds, Phuket Girl will keep dropping small tidbits that quietly contradict the previous version of events.

Cam will promptly reinterpret them, explain them away, and give the whole thing another enthusiastic buff with the Mr Sheen turd-polisher. Down the rabbit hole of self-delusion he goes.

Still, let’s look on the bright side. If this all plays out the usual way, her kids might end up with a nice concrete house out of it. That would be the honourable outcome in all this. Those lovely kids at least get something tangible - courtesy of Papa-Cam’s charitable contributions. A benevolent ending, if nothing else.

On 10/27/2025 at 3:39 PM, Cameroni said:

Such a shame. She was so hot. White skinned, amazing legs, not too skinny not too fat, amzing long thick hair.

You just described 30% of Thai women. If you don't like the one you have then move on and find another, perhaps one who is not so honest.

6 minutes ago, mangkut70 said:

I hope you realize how many alarm bells are ringing here—yet again.

Is it worth all the stress? If even half of what you've said about yourself (age, looks, relative affluence…) is true, there are probably thousands of girls in the region who'd happily take the deal, settle down with you without all the drama and bs, hoping for a good life as a farang's wifey.

Of course its worth the stress - don't give him the idea that its not - this thread is hilarious !

6 minutes ago, mangkut70 said:

You can stay a 'good catch' well past 60 or 70, but for PG the clock is ticking. Traditionally, if an Asian girl is not married by her mid-20s, the train left. So, if she's serious about settling down, getting married, and having kids, it's high time to make it happen.

Has PG been married before? Maybe just a temple ceremony locally, without registering officially at the amphoe?

Knocked up early on by a local lad - moved to the bars to support the family.

She'll want more kids to tie Cam down - and only then release the information that her 'non-bar-girl-bar-girl sisters kids' and not really the non-bar-girl-bar-girl sisters kids but in-fact Phuket Girls Kids... Cam is blind he cannot see this one coming...

13 minutes ago, mangkut70 said:

I hope you realize how many alarm bells are ringing here—yet again.

Is it worth all the stress? If even half of what you've said about yourself (age, looks, relative affluence…) is true, there are probably thousands of girls in the region who'd happily take the deal, settle down with you without all the drama and bs, hoping for a good life as a farang's wifey.

You can stay a 'good catch' well past 60 or 70, but for PG the clock is ticking. Traditionally, if an Asian girl is not married by her mid-20s, the train left. So, if she's serious about settling down, getting married, and having kids, it's high time to make it happen.

Has PG been married before? Maybe just a temple ceremony locally, without registering officially at the amphoe?

Well, I've date a lot in Thailand and SE Asia. In my view a girl you truly connect with, whom you truly have chemistry with, and are truly attracted to, only comes around very rarely. Most of the girls I dated I would not want to be with long term because the chemistry is not there, So if i throw PG away, I may have to wait another 10 years to find a similar girl. Sure I can find a lot of other girls easily, but none that I like as much as PG.

As for her, she's not serious about marrying or kids or anything like this .All she wants is to play volleyball on the beach, travel, see the world. She's 25. She's not bothered about marriage or kidsd or settling down. Like at all.

She wasn't married before I think, but her Thai boyfriend of 5 years was pretty serious.

24 minutes ago, richard_smith237 said:

She was lying to you ? - Nooooo.. Honourable PhuketGirl lieing - Say it isn't true !!!

I know. I was as shocked as you are, Richard.

The lies don't stop. It's almost as if she's a woman.

19 hours ago, Cameroni said:

No. As you will recall, she'd sent him a message that it was over and blocked him. I'd rather hoped that would be it. But I had underestimated how desperate the fat pigman is, at age 63, he knows, he could never get a 25 year old like her again. I'd also underestimated the extent of their pair bond. They'd talked for a year and lived together 6 months. Apparently pigman is totally fine she cheats on him. Like me with BKK girl, Phuket girl found it hard to block the ex, after she did so, she again unblocked. I saw the convo. Pigman was then obviously encouraged and sent 20 messages, professing his love.

It was touch and go for a while, hanging by a thread, as I obviously did not take that well. I again insisted he be blocked. She did so again, after initial threats to go back to Phuket. Then she stayed. However, I then found out she again unblocked him. She never sent him much. One word messages. "Hahaha" "good", but he sent 20 messages begging her to come back.

She kept him blocked on Whatsapp, but she then wrote him on Line. Pigman still thinks she will come back to him. I asked her to block him and she did again.

So, he is still full of hope, desperate and not giving up. Also, as her unblocking and sporadic texts encouraged him.

According to the information provided, you caused that problem for her by shouting into the phone. She likely always had the intention of keeping him on the hook. You messed that up for her and now she's back at work, doing what she knows best. Keeping her pipeline fed.

2 hours ago, Hummin said:

Timing is the the clue, do not forget that!

We moved, because I called a friend of mine who worked with pandemics, and asked her, and this was end of January or beginning of February 2020, and she rolled out the most likely scenario for me, and thanks to her, we packed up, and moved to her family. We already had bungalow, but no electricity. So in few moths we moved to the first stage of our farm.

So, remember, before when visiting her family, I was just as everyone else thinking, I cant live here, and thats true. I couldnt live like her parents do, with neighbours, chickens dogs, village chief morning music and talks, the drunk neighbours, and everything that comes with a rural village life.

I Had already installed water pump, shower, heater, water tank, aircondition, a new kitchen, so we could live there, but I needed space, so therefor we continue to build on her farmland.

Through experience, I got more familiar to the idea, and I learned her family to be a good family, and not what you often hear. Still, living with people around me in that kind of setting or environment, is not what I want, even the house had quite good standard as it was, I cant live in a Thai village, and Im not sure Im especially good with neighbours at all. I prefer space, peace and quiet more than anything else.

Remember, everything has its own timing, and if you are in daily conflict with your young love, forget about it, you do not need that living in Isaan, then you have better options.

Last but not least, what you invest in Isaan, you cant take with you, unless you secure yourself with everything you have, it will take time to got your rights done the legal way. So invest only what you can turn your back to, and never return.

Have you decided that you believe him now?😊

23 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

I know. I was as shocked as you are, Richard.

The lies don't stop. It's almost as if she's a woman.

"The lies don't stop. It's almost as if she's a bar girl"

There - corrected it for you...

22 minutes ago, IsmeUno said:

Have you decided that you believe him now?😊

Many topics here being treated like actually scenarios, because it has purpose for some who actually is in the middle of an relationship or making future decisions.

I have said many times Isaan can be hell or paradise, depends on you solely and of course your partner, her family even not even close by, or in same country. Family will always be important in many aspects if you have a Thai partner.

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Many topics here are treated as real-life scenarios because they have a purpose for people who are actually in the middle of a relationship or making future decisions.

I’ve said many times that Isaan can be either hell or paradise—it depends entirely on you, your partner, and sometimes her family, even if they are not close by or not even in the same country. Family will always be important in many aspects if you have a Thai partner.

3 minutes ago, Hummin said:

Many topics here being treated like actually scenarios, because it has purpose for some who actually is in the middle of an relationship or making future decisions.

I have said many times Isaan can be hell or paradise, depends on you solely and of course your partner, her family even not even close by, or in same country. Family will always be important in many aspects if you have a Thai partner.

AI version

Many topics here are treated as real-life scenarios because they have a purpose for people who are actually in the middle of a relationship or making future decisions.

I’ve said many times that Isaan can be either hell or paradise—it depends entirely on you, your partner, and sometimes her family, even if they are not close by or not even in the same country. Family will always be important in many aspects if you have a Thai partner.

It was a simple question... 😊

Before, you didn't believe. Do you believe now?

8 minutes ago, IsmeUno said:

It was a simple question... 😊

Before, you didn't believe. Do you believe now?

Do I need to believe anything? No. I don’t think anyone would be so personal as to post pictures of their girlfriend here along with all the delicate scenarios.

I do think some people are a bit obsessed with the thread. I’ve mostly discussed topics objectively with Cam no matter what he tells is true or not, along with a bit of noise and disagreement from others

Just now, Hummin said:

Do I need to believe anything? No. I don’t think anyone would be so personal as to post pictures of their girlfriend here along with all the delicate scenarios.

I do think some people are a bit obsessed with the thread. I’ve mostly discussed topics objectively with Cam no matter what he tells is true or not, along with a bit of noise and disagreement from others

Why are you going off at a tangent? Simple question. Do you believe him or not?

No need to go off on your opinions about others and whether you think they are obsessed. Just write about yourself. I guess amongst all those words, you are still telling that you don't believe.

1 minute ago, IsmeUno said:

Why are you going off at a tangent? Simple question. Do you believe him or not?

No need to go off on your opinions about others and whether you think they are obsessed. Just write about yourself. I guess amongst all those words, you are still telling that you don't believe.

Is it important that I believe or not? The topic is valid!

And you have asked me many times and called me out for not believing? No, I dont believe the story. Parts of it mixed with other Stories maybe?

3 minutes ago, IsmeUno said:

Why are you going off at a tangent? Simple question. Do you believe him or not?

No need to go off on your opinions about others and whether you think they are obsessed. Just write about yourself. I guess amongst all those words, you are still telling that you don't believe.

And honestly there are some really bad taste here when it comes to how they expose pictures and also imagine stories about the girl. I have said it before, and stand firm in my condemning of some posters related to what they manage to write about other humans, imaginary or not.

1 minute ago, Hummin said:

Is it important that I believe or not? The topic is valid!

And you have asked me many times and called me out for not believing? No, I dont believe the story. Parts of it mixed with other Stories maybe?

It's a conversation. It's not a problem. 😊 The topic is valid, but you don't believe the story. 😊

1 hour ago, Cameroni said:

So if i throw PG away, I may have to wait another 10 years to find a similar girl. Sure I can find a lot of other girls easily, but none that I like as much as PG.

Just tell them to inflate their lips, act like a bar-girl, habitually lie about everything, cheat on you, message other guys, and generally treat you like a complete mug...

... Give them the 'heads up' - then then they will also know what chemistry to 'create' to draw you in...

1 minute ago, Hummin said:

And honestly there are some really bad taste here when it comes to how they expose picture imagine stories about the girl, and I have said it before and stand firm in my condemning of some posters related to what they manage to write about other humans imaginary or not.

I think the OP brought that on himself, by being grossly disrespectful towards the wives of certain members.

It was the OP who posted her pictures. Are you accusing him of bad taste?

4 minutes ago, Hummin said:

stand firm in my condemning of some posters related to what they manage to write about other humans imaginary or not.

Erm...if it is imaginary... who is is hurting exactly? Imaginary people?

9 minutes ago, IsmeUno said:

I think the OP brought that on himself, by being grossly disrespectful towards the wives of certain members.

It was the OP who posted her pictures. Are you accusing him of bad taste?

Erm...if it is imaginary... who is is hurting exactly? Imaginary people?

I have quite frankly very early in the tread or whenever he posted the pics of his girl friends adressed the issue, to cam and to the moderators. And no worries, me and Cam had a long way back to go discussing moral ethical things when it comes to women, and how our differences is. Still we do not fighting about every little detail. He knows me, I know him.

Imaginary or not, it is the intention that matters.

2 minutes ago, Hummin said:

I have quite frankly very early in the tread or whenever he posted the pics of his girl friends adressed the issue, to cam and to the moderators. And no worries, me and Cam had a long way back to go discussing moral ethical things when it comes to women, and how our differences is. Still we do not fighting about every little detail. He knows me, I know him.

Imaginary or not, it is the intention that matters.

It's 'thread'.

What is the intention? What is Cameroni's intention? What is the intention of the other posters? Why do you consider it your business to 'protect' apparently lying and cheating women?

If you are so offended, why do you keep returning to the thread(whilst comforting yourself that you are not as 'obsessed' as some other posters)?

If the thread is as toxic as you suggest, with both the OP and other posters crossing your red lines, then why are you here, helping the OP?

The point being that this thread is 268 pages long. Not because of posting pictures of your latest view or discussing what you eat down to the last calorie, but because people are dealing with far deeper issues.

You pontificate, but you are still here.

Live and let live.

12 minutes ago, IsmeUno said:

It's 'thread'.

What is the intention? What is Cameroni's intention? What is the intention of the other posters? Why do you consider it your business to 'protect' apparently lying and cheating women?

If you are so offended, why do you keep returning to the thread(whilst comforting yourself that you are not as 'obsessed' as some other posters)?

If the thread is as toxic as you suggest, with both the OP and other posters crossing your red lines, then why are you here, helping the OP?

The point being that this thread is 268 pages long. Not because of posting pictures of your latest view or discussing what you eat down to the last calorie, but because people are dealing with far deeper issues.

You pontificate, but you are still here.

Live and let live.

You can't separate between having an opinion and sharing an opinion and being offended?

5 minutes ago, Hummin said:

You can't separate between having an opinion and sharing an opinion and being offended?

I can. I don't become offended in the first place. Do you?

9 minutes ago, IsmeUno said:

I can. I don't become offended in the first place. Do you?

Oh, so you dont get offended,

🤨

for some reason I do not believe you.