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18 minutes ago, fredwiggy said:

No problem. I understand how the trolls can get you going. I don't want to annoy anyone here anymore by falling for their bait and going any further, so yes, it's best to state your truth and let them rant on in their usual ways. He always comes back with the same worn out false diatribe so let him go and have him take his girlfriend out so he can make her pay for lunch.

Well a real man lets girls pays for him, thats right.

Non of us is perfect, but very few will admit it, and I had said many thimes, there is a reason why some of us are here to much! Nobody is perfect, but it doesnt give anyone free card to play out their insecurity abusing others day after day.

Its like Im saying Im happy with my life, and the trolls says no you are not! Kind of lame isnt it ? But it is that simple, even the trolls like to think they are superior to everyone else.

3 minutes ago, save the frogs said:

Yeah, motorbiking is one reason people like to live out there. A lot of open roads. But I am too worried about accidents.

Just watched a video. The guy lived in Pattaya with his Thai wife, then moved to Isaan. They like both and actually go back and forth, so it adds extra costs to maintain the house while they're not there. It's ok if you can afford it.

Another guy built his house 30 minutes outside Chiang Mai to be able to pop into Chiang Mai easily. But his wife is not from Isaan.

No place in thailand is perfect if you get stuck, some place better than others, of course, and by time you grow in to it if you manage to make your place to a home. And same as everything else, you need to be a positive person, cultivate what you got, and do the deed to convert yourself to a believer. If you convince yourself Pattaya is your place, good for you, and if you convince yourself Isaan is good for you, then it will be your home. Just Dependes on your resources and interests. We all have to make the best out it either way.

1 hour ago, Hummin said:

No place in thailand is perfect

Most people back home have a cottage 1 hour outside the city.

Not too many people go fully remote.

The best hospitals, schools, entertainment, social opportunties, restaurants are in the city.

17 minutes ago, save the frogs said:

Most people back home have a cottage 1 hour outside the city.

Not too many people go fully remote.

The best hospitals, schools, entertainment, social opportunties, restaurants are in the city.

Thats true, and thats why everything has its time. I believe I will move closer to hospitals and the sea when I get older. Hopefully I can manage to buy something with a seaview. Thats a dream, resting my eyes on a sea while fading slowly away. We will see what future brings,

4 hours ago, Hummin said:

So condo is only an investment if you going to live there for many years and also be lucky with neighbours and management as well.

… the desire “to invest” in a condo comes from the idea of leaving something to someone, doesn’t it?

That indeed should come only after having explored many different provinces and locations. That is how I would proceed. But I have no intention to buy at this point,

4 hours ago, Hummin said:

And north and south as well. Thailand got endless with routes with scenic landscapes.

When it come to fun, I never felt riding motorbikes was fun, but it gives a great feeling, especially after a few weeks at the farm, it is great to get out by myself and ride.

Do you feel comfortable and safe on the roads or do you only ride in specific kind of areas?

4 hours ago, Hummin said:

Korat

Chaiyaphum

Loei

Bueng Khan

And north and south as well. Thailand got endless with routes with scenic landscapes.

Is there some wildlife to get familiar with in Thailand (apart from reptiles and insects…)? I imagine there’d some interesting birds perhaps,

3 hours ago, Hummin said:

if you get stuck…

I suppose there are some ways to mitigate that risk. If one has a monthly pension and decides not to invest in a house or even a condo, he retains more freedom. But ultimately, one can get stuck through family, children, health issues or old age. Ultimately, it is true that doing stuff like going to the gym, reading, exploring nature, learning about astrophysics or the Thai language is also a means to mitigate,

1 hour ago, Franck60 said:

… the desire “to invest” in a condo comes from the idea of leaving something to someone, doesn’t it?

That indeed should come only after having explored many different provinces and locations. That is how I would proceed. But I have no intention to buy at this point,

Do you feel comfortable and safe on the roads or do you only ride in specific kind of areas?

Only a lesser intelligent person would feel comfortable and safe at thai road, the respect and if not fear, there should be clear you need to be present on thai roads to stay alive, and also have experience. I do not say everyone who learn to ride motorbike in thailand will die or have an accident, but the risk is high, and the more aware you are, have some good instincts and awareness you might be better off in the long run. But, I feel the roads I choose, is less trafficked in Isaan and the North than down south. I prefer big bike and not smaller bikes where you are doomed to be one of the puzzles in the traffic others constantly have to pass. My motto is to keep the traffic behind me, and ride active aggressive instead of passive. I know some disagree with me, but thats how I feel it.

1 hour ago, Franck60 said:

Is there some wildlife to get familiar with in Thailand (apart from reptiles and insects…)? I imagine there’d some interesting birds perhaps,

The provincial parks have a lot of wildlife, including Tigers, Elephants, Deer, Bears, Leopards, Monkeys, Gibbons, and others, although some you would want to avoid for obvious reasons. Many bird species also. The problem lies in that out of these areas, they only exist in zoos, as the locals would eat them if they weren't. This link tells more..............https://wildlifethailand.com/.

6 hours ago, fredwiggy said:

Actually, there are similarities between Hummin and I. We are both exercise and nutrition people, our lives integrated in those areas. We are also family men, taking care of wives, girlfriends and children.

We have also recognized your personality type and pointed you out to others here so they don't fall for your deflecting and gaslighting ways. You try and point the finger at us, thinking somehow others here will believe your words, but it's you that should point the finger back at yourself, as you're the suspect here.

Then you think we're into a rage or hysteria, all the while spot on about your narcissistic attitudes and actions. We don't put the blame anywhere besides where it deserves, and in this case, you're the crazy one, too dense to understand you've been busted long ago, but keep it up as that's that low self esteem protection mode.

And constantly bragging that women are always buying you things and taking you out is another of your superior acting personas, which doesn't work for people who have been bull<deleted>ted many times in their lives

I know there are similarities. That's what I asserted. I challenged @Hummin's assertion. Remember?

Family men? I don't think @Hummin has children and he doesn't want any. It's nice how you gloss over facts to try to get them to fit into your chosen narrative. Exercise and nutrition people? I guess obsessive with outsized egos is another way of putting that.

You've certainly both ended up in the sticks...

I can say that I recognise both yours and his personality types. When exposed, you both fly into rages and become abusive. @Hummin tries to pretend that it's the other person who is angry 😊 and you just become increasingly abusive.

I don't do any of that.

Then there are your crazy rants at people, such as your final paragraph. Crazy. Dense. That I have low esteem 😊

In essence what you are saying is that I'm lying about not having to pay, as obviously someone who is in a working relationship who does not automatically have to pay a salary to their women cannot be crazy, dense and with low self esteem. Why would a woman choose such a man? That doesn't make sense, does it?

But a man who has had 90 partners and many failed relationships... 😊

Someone whose whole basis of a relationship is 'providing' for a women. I can see your descriptions fitting some in your situation. Maybe having someone financially dependent on you gives you a feeling of power over them with the addition of making you feel indispensable.

Why does me not having to pay upset you so much? 😊

These are just some of my observations. There's no point in wasting time going back and forth. I have my opinion and you have your fantasies. Reality trumps your mud slinging.

5 hours ago, Hummin said:

We do share many things, and we can actually disagree, and thats it, and no harm done. We will start with fresh papers next time, and do not bring what we discussed before to the table to stabb each other over and over again and again. And thats a good thing. Arrogant ?

Fred is more patient than me, and do have the compassion to fight to the bitter end, never give up, and he does write long essays when discussing, but honestly, he is defending himself against his kind of trolls.

So sorry Fred if you felt me trowing you under the buss, but it certainly did engage the troll! He got off the rails once more.

Of course there are other perspectives to what you write. Both you and fred constantly bring up the subject of usernames when under pressure. So that brings the lie of you not bringing up the past.

It's all about how you choose to see yourself, rather than the reality.

I just see it as a band of mental weaklings. You reinforce that perception time after time. It's no surprise that other fragile minds join you.

Defending themselves on an anonymous forum? That's a Sisyphean task 😊 A folly. One person might agree with you whilst another thinks you an idiot. It's how you deal with that reality that makes the man.

You and fred fly into frenzies, demanding that people be silenced and removed. Neither can stand not having control. Only the jackboots are missing.

You aren't going to change my opinion of you by simply repeating the same behaviour. What's the alternative? Fly into a rage each time?

12 minutes ago, IsmeUno said:

I know there are similarities. That's what I asserted. I challenged @Hummin's assertion. Remember?

Family men? I don't think @Hummin has children and he doesn't want any. It's nice how you gloss over facts to try to get them to fit into your chosen narrative. Exercise and nutrition people? I guess obsessive with outsized egos is another way of putting that.

You've certainly both ended up in the sticks...

I can say that I recognise both yours and his personality types. When exposed, you both fly into rages and become abusive. @Hummin tries to pretend that it's the other person who is angry 😊 and you just become increasingly abusive.

I don't do any of that.

Then there are your crazy rants at people, such as your final paragraph. Crazy. Dense. That I have low esteem 😊

In essence what you are saying is that I'm lying about not having to pay, as obviously someone who is in a working relationship who does not automatically have to pay a salary to their women cannot be crazy, dense and with low self esteem. Why would a woman choose such a man? That doesn't make sense, does it?

But a man who has had 90 partners and many failed relationships... 😊

Someone whose whole basis of a relationship is 'providing' for a women. I can see your descriptions fitting some in your situation. Maybe having someone financially dependent on you gives you a feeling of power over them with the addition of making you feel indispensable.

Why does me not having to pay upset you so much? 😊

These are just some of my observations. There's no point in wasting time going back and forth. I have my opinion and you have your fantasies. Reality trumps your mud slinging.

Good morning to you to!

Nobody are upset your claim you do not need to pay, but you bragging and dragging everyone else down to your level of generalization. I once was young and moving around, had gf´s and wasnt asked to pay anything, but I had at least decency to make sure what I wanted to do, did not cost them anything. They wanted to go to the nuddle shop pay 35 baht, I wanted something else. They wanted to stay in 250 baht bungalow, I wanted to stay in 400 baht bungalow, do you get me?

Sometimes it comes down to common sense and who you truly are!

5 hours ago, fredwiggy said:

No problem. I understand how the trolls can get you going.

Of course you understand that. You are both very similar in that regard. Your outsized egos cannot accept that you aren't number one in anything apart from failure.

2 minutes ago, IsmeUno said:

Of course there are other perspectives to what you write. Both you and fred constantly bring up the subject of usernames when under pressure. So that brings the lie of you not bringing up the past.

It's all about how you choose to see yourself, rather than the reality.

I just see it as a band of mental weaklings. You reinforce that perception time after time. It's no surprise that other fragile minds join you.

Defending themselves on an anonymous forum? That's a Sisyphean task 😊 A folly. One person might agree with you whilst another thinks you an idiot. It's how you deal with that reality that makes the man.

You and fred fly into frenzies, demanding that people be silenced and removed. Neither can stand not having control. Only the jackboots are missing.

You aren't going to change my opinion of you by simply repeating the same behaviour. What's the alternative? Fly into a rage each time?

I think you doing our job very easy! Continue as you do!

Just now, Hummin said:

I think you doing our job very easy! Continue as you do!

You have a job here? 😊

4 minutes ago, IsmeUno said:

I know there are similarities. That's what I asserted. I challenged @Hummin's assertion. Remember?

Family men? I don't think @Hummin has children and he doesn't want any. It's nice how you gloss over facts to try to get them to fit into your chosen narrative. Exercise and nutrition people? I guess obsessive with outsized egos is another way of putting that.

You've certainly both ended up in the sticks...

I can say that I recognise both yours and his personality types. When exposed, you both fly into rages and become abusive. @Hummin tries to pretend that it's the other person who is angry 😊 and you just become increasingly abusive.

I don't do any of that.

Then there are your crazy rants at people, such as your final paragraph. Crazy. Dense. That I have low esteem 😊

In essence what you are saying is that I'm lying about not having to pay, as obviously someone who is in a working relationship who does not automatically have to pay a salary to their women cannot be crazy, dense and with low self esteem. Why would a woman choose such a man? That doesn't make sense, does it?

But a man who has had 90 partners and many failed relationships... 😊

Someone whose whole basis of a relationship is 'providing' for a women. I can see your descriptions fitting some in your situation. Maybe having someone financially dependent on you gives you a feeling of power over them with the addition of making you feel indispensable.

Why does me not having to pay upset you so much? 😊

These are just some of my observations. There's no point in wasting time going back and forth. I have my opinion and you have your fantasies. Reality trumps your mud slinging.

I don't gloss over anything. I was talking about the both of our similarities. That doesn't mean we're exactly the same but share some. Working out on a regular basis, along with following a healthy diet, is one way to combat things that can go wrong with your body and only a little to do with an obsession. Would you rather be obsessed with a healthy lifestyle or an unhealthy one?

Ending up in the sticks is because this is where our wives were from, who had land to build on, which thousands have done.

I have never seen anyone "flying into a rage" in an online forum. That would take in person observation.

Calling you out on your constant belittling, twisting of the spoken truths, assuming and superior acting habits isn't raging by any means. Again, I don't rant. I observe, then comment on the obvious.

Your low self esteem is evident not by your choice of not paying for women but your constant trolling of people here, covering obvious weaknesses, as normal people do not act the way you and the other 4 do.

You weren't in my life so have no idea what type of relationships I've had, let alone failed in any. If you haven't dated that many, that's on you, and if you treated any woman like you appear to do, having them pay as much as you say they do, that's taking advantage by lying, and no one here believes otherwise. I'm not near a controlling person as I do more than my share of all things a relationship has. This means I don't look at providing as a power thing but an appropriate way to take care of your family.

You haven't any children so don't understand this. You sound like a cheapskate so again don't understand this. You aren't fooling anyone here, let alone someone who looks at women as equals and actually does take care of a family, and always has.

You have a disturbed way of thinking and I have my reality. Your life sure looks like a fantasy and all "men" take care of their women in many ways, providing only one of them. Take your bragging elsewhere as you aren't impressing anyone here. I don't mud sling. I see people as they are, especially when they show their true character over time. And you're as obvious as the smog over Los Angeles.

2 minutes ago, Hummin said:

Good morning to you to!

Nobody are upset your claim you do not need to pay, but you bragging and dragging everyone else down to your level of generalization. I once was young and moving around, had gf´s and wasnt asked to pay anything, but I had at least decency to make sure what I wanted to do, did not cost them anything. They wanted to go to the nuddle shop pay 35 baht, I wanted something else. They wanted to stay in 250 baht bungalow, I wanted to stay in 400 baht bungalow, do you get me?

Sometimes it comes down to common sense and who you truly are!

How can you state that nobody is upset that I don't need to pay? The evidence points otherwise. You simply make statements with no basis in the truth at all. Why is that?

Thanks for the breakdown of your financial arrangements with women, but what does that have to do with me?

Do you imagine that I sit back and allow women to pay for everything? That is your imagination, isn't it?

What I stated, is that I do not have to pay for them.

Is it so hard for you to understand and accept?

4 minutes ago, IsmeUno said:

Of course there are other perspectives to what you write. Both you and fred constantly bring up the subject of usernames when under pressure. So that brings the lie of you not bringing up the past.

It's all about how you choose to see yourself, rather than the reality.

I just see it as a band of mental weaklings. You reinforce that perception time after time. It's no surprise that other fragile minds join you.

Defending themselves on an anonymous forum? That's a Sisyphean task 😊 A folly. One person might agree with you whilst another thinks you an idiot. It's how you deal with that reality that makes the man.

You and fred fly into frenzies, demanding that people be silenced and removed. Neither can stand not having control. Only the jackboots are missing.

You aren't going to change my opinion of you by simply repeating the same behaviour. What's the alternative? Fly into a rage each time?

I don't demand anything from anyone besides my children's actions and words. You are silenced and removed because you're a petulant troll, period.

1 minute ago, fredwiggy said:

I don't demand anything from anyone besides my children's actions and words. You are silenced and removed because you're a petulant troll, period.

You like talking to him. Without a daily long rant you would be bored.

3 minutes ago, IsmeUno said:

Of course you understand that. You are both very similar in that regard. Your outsized egos cannot accept that you aren't number one in anything apart from failure.

Raising 6 children and treating women well is far from a failure. Not being able to converse here without assuming and turning the truths around is a very disturbed trolling behavior, much like a teenager does when confronting a stern parent.

Just now, khaosokman said:

You like talking to him. Without a daily long rant you would be bored.

Going for the world record of bad reputations here, you shouldn't comment.

3 minutes ago, fredwiggy said:

I don't demand anything from anyone besides my children's actions and words. You are silenced and removed because you're a petulant troll, period.

I think that it is you who is petulant and abusive. It's your nature. I'm sure that your children were glad to leave your home. They certainly aren't offering to house you long term.

3 minutes ago, IsmeUno said:

How can you state that nobody is upset that I don't need to pay? The evidence points otherwise. You simply make statements with no basis in the truth at all. Why is that?

Maybe it is how you present yourself, and how you tell everybody else, what matters.

Why is this so important to you? And why are you so upset on continue every little war on this forum from you get up in the morning to you crash?

2 minutes ago, fredwiggy said:

Raising 6 children and treating women well is far from a failure. Not being able to converse here without assuming and turning the truths around is a very disturbed trolling behavior, much like a teenager does when confronting a stern parent.

That's exactly what's happening here. You are so used to being controlling and fly into a rage when because you are impotent. Another trait you share...

Just now, Hummin said:

Maybe it is how you present yourself, and how you tell everybody else, what matters.

Why is this so important to you? And why are you so upset on continue every little war on this forum from you get up in the morning to you crash?

I am not going to tailor whatever I write for every individual. Some are going to be upset by my words no matter how I write it. You are just going to have to get over it. Deal with yourself.

There is no war. That's again in your imagination. We were having a normal discussion yesterday, until something triggered you. Are you self reflective enough to go back to look at what happened and why it went wrong?

Just now, IsmeUno said:

I think that it is you who is petulant and abusive. It's your nature. I'm sure that your children were glad to leave your home. They certainly aren't offering to house you long term.

You're entitled to your opinion, albeit always a wrong one.

My nature is to help others, quite the opposite of yours here. My children, like all others, are glad to leave the home and become independent, something I taught them to be. Again, have a child before you comment, as you aren't qualified to answer on that subject.

Where do you think I stay when we visit Texas? Do you think it's a child's responsibility to house a parent when the parent is capable of doing that for themself? Not too bright are you?

6 minutes ago, fredwiggy said:

Raising 6 children and treating women well is far from a failure. Not being able to converse here without assuming and turning the truths around is a very disturbed trolling behavior, much like a teenager does when confronting a stern parent.

90 women and multiple failed relationships. Reckless gamblers only want to talk about their wins. Look at the other side.

90 women who aren't being considered, the other side of the failed relationships. Your poor choices until date.

You present your stories as facts. But they are just your version of the events.

1 minute ago, IsmeUno said:

I am not going to tailor whatever I write for every individual. Some are going to be upset by my words no matter how I write it. You are just going to have to get over it. Deal with yourself.

There is no war. That's again in your imagination. We were having a normal discussion yesterday, until something triggered you. Are you self reflective enough to go back to look at what happened and why it went wrong?

I saw what you did yesterday with him. The same thing you do to most everyone here when they confront you or try to state a personal observation. You think you know what's going on in other's lives you never met. You don't, but are quick to assume. And when they state something you don't like, you turn whatever they say against them, which is abnormal behavior.

Just now, IsmeUno said:

90 women and multiple failed relationships. Reckless gamblers only want to talk about their wins. Look at the other side.

90 women who aren't being considered, the other side of the failed relationships. Your poor choices until date.

You present your stories as facts. But they are just your version of the events.

Again too stupid to realize the one thing. You were not there. Keep on assuming, as it further buries you in your disturbed existence.

2 minutes ago, fredwiggy said:

You're entitled to your opinion, albeit always a wrong one.

My nature is to help others, quite the opposite of yours here. My children, like all others, are glad to leave the home and become independent, something I taught them to be. Again, have a child before you comment, as you aren't qualified to answer on that subject.

Where do you think I stay when we visit Texas? Do you think it's a child's responsibility to house a parent when the parent is capable of doing that for themself? Not too bright are you?

This helping others thing is just nonsense. I've not ever seen you on any other threads offering advice on anything other than talking about yourself and covert narcissists. Always claiming to be the best and the most experienced. It's just so ridiculous. 😊