6 minutes ago, BatteringRam said:

What qualities do you have that she might want or need?

 

Okay, Mr likeable, this is good. This is good. That's it! I need to figure out what she wants or needs. What attracted her to me in the first place.

 

Okay, so she has ultra-conservative Chinese parents, so she likes Post Malone rap and going out with a Gweilo or Farang. She needs the "other" the Western, the exciting, that's me.  But at the same time she is steeped in conservative old school upbrining and does not want sex on a first or second date. 

 

So how can I give her Western freedom and excitement, whilst still satisfying the demands of her conservative religious nature? I have to giver her this Western "other" but still I can't scare off the traditional Chinese religious cat inside her. 

 

Allright, so clearly the luxury hotel restaurants and bar are out now. I will take her to a hip little Thai restaurant. Or maybe a daytime date, but it has to be exciting. What could be exciting in CM? Sh!t.

10 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

 

Okay, Mr likeable, this is good. This is good. That's it! I need to figure out what she wants or needs. What attracted her to me in the first place.

 

Okay, so she has ultra-conservative Chinese parents, so she likes Post Malone rap and going out with a Gweilo or Farang. She needs the "other" the Western, the exciting, that's me.  But at the same time she is steeped in conservative old school upbrining and does not want sex on a first or second date. 

 

So how can I give her Western freedom and excitement, whilst still satisfying the demands of her conservative religious nature? I have to giver her this Western "other" but still I can't scare off the traditional Chinese religious cat inside her. 

 

Allright, so clearly the luxury hotel restaurants and bar are out now. I will take her to a hip little Thai restaurant. Or maybe a daytime date, but it has to be exciting. What could be exciting in CM? Sh!t.

 

 

Allow me to give you examples of interesting. I play bass, so I might invite her to a gig. Having other girls screaming and shouting "yes sir!" when you are doing a solo, really focuses their attention.

Girls want what they cannot have. You, are easy. I, am not. They need to impress me. Show that they can attain the standards that I expect.

Build up their excitement until they are begging me to take them home.

 

 

 

 

32 minutes ago, BatteringRam said:

 

 

Allow me to give you examples of interesting. I play bass, so I might invite her to a gig. Having other girls screaming and shouting "yes sir!" when you are doing a solo, really focuses their attention.

Girls want what they cannot have. You, are easy. I, am not. They need to impress me. Show that they can attain the standards that I expect.

Build up their excitement until they are begging me to take them home.

 

 

 

 

 

Actually Bass is fantastically interesting. On our second date we went to a bar with a Jazz combo which had a bass player. He was the total star of the show. I think women love guys who are capable with their hands, and he put on a real show. I noticed she was checking out the bass player.

 

A bit late to take up bass playing for me. I'm a good basketball player, maybe I get her to hit the basketball court...

 

I think interesting does not have to be about your qualities in doing something, it can be what you say. That's where I excell. I can alternate with serious discussion, joking about fun things. 

 

Maybe I'll take her to archery. I'm not bad at archery.

Anyway, I think the way to handle the secretive trip is to totally ignore it. I will not probe and drill about who she went with, where she went. If she wants to say, okay, if not okay. I'll put the focus on a fun conversation, alternating with serious and humours topics.

 

Maybe take her to archery, a Shabu place and a walk.

 

As for physical contact, I will play it by local and Chinese rules and will avoid looking like the horny Gweilo or Farang altogether.

OK the shameless girl is not a matter anymore.

However you are still talking about her and others.

You are now hooked upon CM girl. I red you dont have much contact with her while she is on your Insta.

Maybe she is thinking you are not that interested by slow contact and once in a while a date.

I red you already had her once in your house, what did you do? Besides cooking spaghetti.

Not any attempt to get closer? Maybe she is thinking, what the (NOT) F***?

You maybe embarrassed her by doing nothing.

Only actions show it. Maybe she is still testing you, maybe she had enough already.

People are strange (The doors) and everything is possible, you ll have to find out.

You missed body language and you didnt show actions and makes her uncomfortable?

Like I said people are strange.

A txt , Im on a trip. Maybe not and is at home. No selfies from her and you didnt do either.

It is modern time with all that crap working. OK so be it.

I put up a video, some time ago , about a Thai girl. You saw it? 

You are still thriving on your age lie, it could also backfire to you in later stadium, if so.

You are hoping on time effort and then continu. But you dont spend more time with her, once in a while a date.

And now you are curious about her trip, which she didnt tell you about it.

Yeah, what is going on? Lots of things can be going on, also her newborn freedom.

 

Story: 2 years ago bought a bottle of whisky at 7/11. 2 girls offered themselves to drink the bottle with me !

I was flabbergasted, just out of the blue. Girls from maybe 20-22 yo. Couldnt, am in a relation.

But would have accepted if I werent. For the 2 girls just a new experience and didnt care about my age.

And so there are more experiences of girls in Thailand. It will seldom happens in "my country".

People are strange.

7 minutes ago, xtrnuno41 said:

You are now hooked upon CM girl. I red you dont have much contact with her while she is on your Insta.

 

I am, exactly. You know I get the vibe from her she is not heavily into texting on Insta. She sends short one word texts. Indeed, the very first thing she told me when I wrote to her on Insta was "Let's just meet, I don't want to spend a lot of time writing on Insta, better to meet in real life".

 

I think she knows very well I am interested in her. Do you think I should clearly tell her at this early stage?

 

 

9 minutes ago, xtrnuno41 said:

I red you already had her once in your house, what did you do? Besides cooking spaghetti.

 

We cooked Spaghetti together and had a meal, and talked over dinner. Then we transferred to the couch to watch a Chinese movie she picked. However, I did not get ANY sign that physical contact was ok or desired so I did not press that, I sat with her watching the movie and we talked about it.

 

I was also thinking if she wants me to make a move, but I was pretty sure her body language was not asking for that. Bear in mind, her coming to my place was not planned, and made her apprehensive. She said "I normally don't go to a man's house on the first date", she was quite worried as we'd originally planned to go to a restaurant. That's why I was extra careful to show her she can trust me.

 

12 minutes ago, xtrnuno41 said:

A txt , Im on a trip. Maybe not and is at home. No selfies from her and you didnt do either.

 

We took a selfie of both of us, I did send all three to her, but she didn't comment on the pics at all.

 

Sadly I did not see your video.

 

13 minutes ago, xtrnuno41 said:

You are still thriving on your age lie, it could also backfire to you in later stadium, if so.

 

I know, I feel terrible about this now, because I like her so much, and it's sure to be a problem when it comes out, if ever.

 

14 minutes ago, xtrnuno41 said:

But you dont spend more time with her, once in a while a date.

 

I wanted to this week, go for more dates, two, one in the daytime and one at the weekend. But she went on this trip.

 

 

25 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

She sends short one word texts.

Probably from the bathroom ,  after some hot sex with some 30 year old guy.

LOL.     Ya know,  54 yr old male and 25 year old female is not the recipe for reciprocal "feelings" .     For an alpha male (are there any left ?)  .... twenty year old girls should be for play only , with some "benefits"  for the girl .  

The only girls looking to hook up with a much older man are those who are wanting to move up the ladder .  And of course, those relationships if they last a while are very likely to find the ladder being pushed over with the man on it at a later (use by date) .

If CM fantasy girl is "into you" .... must be something wrong .  But, doesn't mean that she doesn't mind spending some time .  The reason ?   We shall see.    I definitely discard the thought that true love can blossom from her youthful heart .   You are not famous,  do not own a big restaurant or resort where you can prance around showing your position,  not a sports star, nor actor .   Usually...... playing the bass is about the best one can do for those that are none of the above.  hahaha  I want to come back next life as a geetar player,  no doubt !    They can still pull the groupies even at 60 ! 

 

I am pulling for you to bed this girl though ........  that should keep this novel going for some time .    

18 minutes ago, rumak said:

Probably from the bathroom ,  after some hot sex with some 30 year old guy.

 

Bastardo!

 

18 minutes ago, rumak said:

 

LOL.     Ya know,  54 yr old male and 25 year old female is not the recipe for reciprocal "feelings" .     For an alpha male (are there any left ?)  .... twenty year old girls should be for play only , with some "benefits"  for the girl .  

 

 

Well, my father disproves your theory. He was 50 when he met his 20 year old wife. They are still together now, he's 84 and she's 54. The flaw in your theory I think is to believe that the physical is the be all and end all, when in fact it is just the foundation, the initial step. Suppose both parties are not repulsive, and each has highly developed mental energy and emotional depth, there could well be reciprocated feelings. Don't forget 90% of people are not attractive at all. And yet they still experience love affairs like everyone else.

 

You're such a cynic, Rumak...

 

But yah, you're probably right. In today's visual social media age looks matter a lot. Which is of course why CM girl chose to go out with me. Gotcha!!! But yah it is an issue. Not gonna lie.

 

I stilll hope that our "chemistry" can bridge that schasm. We really have it. Whether it's genuine on her part or not, we shall see of course. If not her act is fantastic.

 

Clearly CM girl is not "into me" though at the moment. I have no doubt her interest level is barely above 5, fairly low. I still hope to turn it around with the mouthpiece and the positive experience. 

 

I still believe.  The real danger is not age or looks though. The real danger is that she meets some other guy with a lot more money or even better looks. She's so attractive, that's a real possibility. I'm concerned that may be why her interest level is so low she's running plan A, B, C, D, and E. Again, given her level of attraction, I'd be competing with some Ferraris. I'm just a good Audi.

 

My problem would be, if I can't get her, how to go back to basic. She'd have ruined me for other girls. I guess I'd find out what my exes feel...

3 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

You're such a cynic, Rumak...

 

Don't shoot the messenger !    

 

Just take a look at every couple you see ,  especially the Farang/Thai  ones which would be applicable here on AN .     Take a look,  you have good observational skills.   Then ask yourself...."would i want to be in that relationship ".

 

One learns a  lot ....... especially after 50 .   Happy to hear your pops pulled it off .   You better hurry .   tik tok tik tok  

10 minutes ago, rumak said:

 

Don't shoot the messenger !    

 

Just take a look at every couple you see ,  especially the Farang/Thai  ones which would be applicable here on AN .     Take a look,  you have good observational skills.   Then ask yourself...."would i want to be in that relationship ".

 

One learns a  lot ....... especially after 50 .   Happy to hear your pops pulled it off .   You better hurry .   tik tok tik tok  

 

I know, you can hardly go to Big C to avoid seeing those sad things.

 

I'm not that old though, those guys are ancient 80 plus. Maybe she sees me that way? I really hope not.

 

I will give it a shot. I have to. This CM girl is a unicorn. How can one not try to catch a unicorn? So close. So close...

 

Now I will get date 4. I can feel it. But it is a big mountain to climb. Don't think I don't know.

 

 

1 minute ago, Cameroni said:

 

I know, you can hardly go to Big C to avoid seeing those sad things.

 

I'm not that old though, those guys are ancient 80 plus. Maybe she sees me that way? I really hope not.

 

I will give it a shot. I have to. This CM girl is a unicorn. How can one not try to catch a unicorn? So close. So close...

 

Now I will get date 4. I can feel it. But it is a big mountain to climb. Don't think I don't know.

 

Relax ....... Breathe...... Breathe......  

Hey,  take her to the basketball court .  Tell her to wear shorts, cause you're gonna shoot some hoops .  If you can show some athleticism , then that does stimulate their primal instincts .  lol   Time to get physical !     If she doesn't want to play a bit .....hmmmm .... not my type

 

I still get compliments from the young guys ..... (after they ask me how old I am ) .

3 minutes ago, rumak said:

 

Relax ....... Breathe...... Breathe......  

Hey,  take her to the basketball court .  Tell her to wear shorts, cause you're gonna shoot some hoops .  If you can show some athleticism , then that does stimulate their primal instincts .  lol   Time to get physical !     If she doesn't want to play a bit .....hmmmm .... not my type

 

I still get compliments from the young guys ..... (after they ask me how old I am ) .

But I tell you one thing. It almost feels like it's meant to be. You know how you have a connection  with someone, a chemistry, I've never been so attracted to a woman in my entire life. It feels very different. 

 

I've taken girls to the basketball court before. It didn't end well. They often are not interested, because they're not good at it. It just makes you look good, not them. It can be fun for a little while. But it can also become hyper competitive if she can play, I: had that as well lol.

 

I would love to get physical with her. I try my best on every date, tactile, a touch her and there, but she warned me she's cold, not very loving, that's her nature. And she hasn't given come hither signals. It's early days. It will come, :I'm sure.

Meanwhile the original shameless Phuket girl is telling me she gets the period 3 times a month, 12 days, if I mind. It just gets better and better with her, dental project plus weird period. Now she told me she's writing to 4 other guys as well. 

 

CM girl has to pull me out of this hell, I can't go there.

11 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

I try my best on every date, tactile, a touch her and there, but she warned me she's cold, not very loving, that's her nature

 

i told you there was something wrong with her.....................

 

ahhhh,  i see .    more of a "challenge" for you . wake those latent feelings of hers up . go on kid ,  you can do it ! 

 

you have just disclosed a very important detail to the peanut gallery 

 

me,,,,, time to watch a movie with the mrs.     later

5 minutes ago, rumak said:

i told you there was something wrong with her...................

 

There's a few things wrong with her. She's disclosed herself 3, which is admirable. 1) She's cold not loving, rarely says sweet things 2) A hygiene freak and 3) She overthinks everything.

 

But there's other stuff. She hides her Insta highlights. She likes to hide things. A big red flag.

 

She also has 1300 guys as followers. Another red flag.

 

She tried to change our last third date, trying to get me to go to a Shabu place, unsuccessfully.

 

She's on the phone a lot. We got talking about Indonesia, I mentioned it has 20000 islands, I forgot the exact number. She used AI to get the right number, and quizzed me triumphantly. Of course I got it wrong. She checks everything on AI. Her mother called her on our 2nd date and she picked up.

1 hour ago, rumak said:

Probably from the bathroom ,  after some hot sex with some 30 year old guy.

LOL.     Ya know,  54 yr old male and 25 year old female is not the recipe for reciprocal "feelings" .     For an alpha male (are there any left ?)  .... twenty year old girls should be for play only , with some "benefits"  for the girl .  

The only girls looking to hook up with a much older man are those who are wanting to move up the ladder .  And of course, those relationships if they last a while are very likely to find the ladder being pushed over with the man on it at a later (use by date) .

If CM fantasy girl is "into you" .... must be something wrong .  But, doesn't mean that she doesn't mind spending some time .  The reason ?   We shall see.    I definitely discard the thought that true love can blossom from her youthful heart .   You are not famous,  do not own a big restaurant or resort where you can prance around showing your position,  not a sports star, nor actor .   Usually...... playing the bass is about the best one can do for those that are none of the above.  hahaha  I want to come back next life as a geetar player,  no doubt !    They can still pull the groupies even at 60 ! 

 

I am pulling for you to bed this girl though ........  that should keep this novel going for some time .    

 

You need to watch this video Rumak. Is physical attractiveness more important than anything else? Turns out intelligence and kindess are MORE important than physical attractiveness. Women figure, if he's got muscles but is a jerk, then that's useless. Kindness and intelligence, rumak. Kindness and intelligence.

 

 

40 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

 

I am, exactly. You know I get the vibe from her she is not heavily into texting on Insta. She sends short one word texts. Indeed, the very first thing she told me when I wrote to her on Insta was "Let's just meet, I don't want to spend a lot of time writing on Insta, better to meet in real life".

 

I think she knows very well I am interested in her. Do you think I should clearly tell her at this early stage?

 

 

 

We cooked Spaghetti together and had a meal, and talked over dinner. Then we transferred to the couch to watch a Chinese movie she picked. However, I did not get ANY sign that physical contact was ok or desired so I did not press that, I sat with her watching the movie and we talked about it.

 

I was also thinking if she wants me to make a move, but I was pretty sure her body language was not asking for that. Bear in mind, her coming to my place was not planned, and made her apprehensive. She said "I normally don't go to a man's house on the first date", she was quite worried as we'd originally planned to go to a restaurant. That's why I was extra careful to show her she can trust me.

 

 

We took a selfie of both of us, I did send all three to her, but she didn't comment on the pics at all.

 

Sadly I did not see your video.

 

 

I know, I feel terrible about this now, because I like her so much, and it's sure to be a problem when it comes out, if ever.

 

 

I wanted to this week, go for more dates, two, one in the daytime and one at the weekend. But she went on this trip.

 

 

My video was on page 32 .

About body language, just because she is there, is already a sign.

Once had a woman in house first time(first meet), eating pizza , watching movie. I made the move and was going to kiss her.

Right choice, zablam complete on fire, instantly. Later made the choice of marrying here, wrong move.

Within the year I was divorced again. Totally misjudged all. A hard hidden agenda.

AH, well thats live. Wrong choice. Also because I lied to myself, as i said no more mariage.

I can say all women with whom I had relation had an agenda. It comes out of the blue some time later.

The question remains, what were they thinking in last years, before.

Yes, thought about the constant factor, me, maybe it is so, but ruled it out. Not in my acting or whatever.

I know IM damned good in a relation, maybe thats the problem. Better be bad?

 

So dont know what it is, though I m constant factor. Maybe im attracting some time the wrong one, you meet someone and all goes "well" and then it flips. Maybe age difference? No was also with women same age. Mostly the other ones up 10 years difference.

I didnt want it to be big difference, but maybe im wrong.

Met women having relations , my country women, Antillean, Indonesian, Philippine and now Thai.

For me it is now normal, 5-10 years max and then it is over. A real relation? It is damned hard.

Look around and see.

Maybe better having a slut then a steady relation.

 

Guess what it's been 10 years now( OK 2 years off thanks to corona.) I "know" the Thai woman, Was last time, 5 months with her and incredible how she acted.

No idea what is going on, but it gave me chills. Yeah of course I asked why. Of course , no answer.

No she is educated, officer, only 10 years younger. Next hidden agenda?

Maybe now better go to 7/11 to buy whisky and drink with super young girls. 

Or go to Pattaya and have drinks with 7 young  girls at a beer bar, lovely evening spend , but already long ago. 

 

The Thai woman I met on site, told me after some chats, I will come to you !!

HUH? You never traveled abroad, sure you dont want ME to come first to Thailand?

No, I will come to you. OK if you come , I will eat you at once.

Hihihi , she laughed. ok she came. No kiss when she arrived , cant it is public. Yeah but this is my country.

At home, showed house and let her relax. Just for a short while, as SHE came on to me even before I had the plan executed.

First time real meet and she was attacking me. Didnt have any problem with it, go wiht the flow.

 

 

 

8 minutes ago, xtrnuno41 said:

Once had a woman in house first time(first meet), eating pizza , watching movie. I made the move and was going to kiss her.

Right choice, zablam complete on fire, instantly. Later made the choice of marrying here, wrong move.

Within the year I was divorced again. Totally misjudged all. A hard hidden agenda.

AH, well thats live. Wrong choice. Also because I lied to myself, as i said no more mariage.

I can say all women with whom I had relation had an agenda. It comes out of the blue some time later.

The question remains, what were they thinking in last years, before.

Yes, thought about the constant factor, me, maybe it is so, but ruled it out. Not in my acting or whatever.

I know IM damned good in a relation, maybe thats the problem. Better be bad?

 

It really is the luck of the draw. Pure chance. Yes, you can weed out obvious losers, druggies, fatties, sluts, but I'm talking the big normal pool. You are at the mercy of chance. Twice I had good luck. Then 3 times I had bad luck. You can't tell at the start, not even after years, sometimes. People change anyway.

 

8 minutes ago, xtrnuno41 said:

Antillean, Indonesian, Philippine and now Thai.

 

Good taste.

 

8 minutes ago, xtrnuno41 said:

For me it is now normal, 5-10 years max and then it is over. A real relation? It is damned hard.

 

It is the case that relationships, even with good people, run their course. They have a natural life span. When one of two partners feels they are no longer getting what they wanted. They will leave.

 

Though 5-10 seems short from y perspective. I aim for 12 to 20 based on experience. Hopefully longer for my last one, the CM girl.

 

8 minutes ago, xtrnuno41 said:

and incredible how she acted.

 

What do you mean?

 

8 minutes ago, xtrnuno41 said:

At home, showed house and let her relax. Just for a short while, as SHE came on to me even before I had the plan executed.

First time real meet and she was attacking me. Didnt have any problem with it, go wiht the flow.

 

Because of course it's a different situation, she left her country and came to a strange land. There you're her only support. Of course she will make sure you're happy sexually from the start.

 

Here, with CM girl, it's very different. She doesn't need me at all. Well, not exactly. She needs me for something. Just not badly.

23 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

It really is the luck of the draw. Pure chance. Yes, you can weed out obvious losers, druggies, fatties, sluts, but I'm talking the big normal pool. You are at the mercy of chance. Twice I had good luck. Then 3 times I had bad luck. You can't tell at the start, not even after years, sometimes. People change anyway.

 

yep .......................  i recommend never investing more than you are willing to lose.   Of course,  if one is so rich , well,  can afford to lose a lot.  ( paul mc for example) .

 

btw:   you will change also .    accepting the hard truth that everything is a trade off . 

 

i do understand the unexpected .......when a girl creates this weird pulling at ones heart .  

there is a reason they call it  love "sick" .     

 

 

1 hour ago, Cameroni said:

Kindness and intelligence, rumak. Kindness and intelligence.

 

right.   someone like me .  😉     

 

remember,  never confuse "education"  with intelligence .

 

Kindness .  Honesty .     Either they have it.   Or they don't .

 

hey...... what does CM girl say she wants  ?    in a very general sense .    

48 minutes ago, rumak said:

 

hey...... what does CM girl say she wants  ?    in a very general sense .    

 

She asked me "How long are you staying in Thailand?" I said forever. She smiled.

 

She asked me "Have you ever been to a ladies bar", I said "Never. I'm looking for long term. And a girl from the bar will go with anyone for money, so she's not a good candidate". I remember she was delighted with the answer, smiling from ear to ear.

 

At the very start. When I told her "Look, this restaurant, turns out, it's a ladies bar. I don't want to take you there. Let's just go to my place and cook something together and catch a movie on Netflix", she said "I normally don't go with a man to his house on the first date". But then went anyway and we ate dinner.

 

She asked me at dinner "Did youhave a Thai girlfriend before?" I said yes. And I told her what happened. Well, almost everything.

 

She asked me "Were you ever married?" "How old are you?". I lied.

 

She asked me what my plans were for the future. I told her.

 

Later she me asked me the only question I didn't ace. She found out I was a Protestant Christian, like her. She asked me do you believe in re-incarnation. Impulsively I said "Yes". She baulked, "Then you can't be a Christian". "I said I'm both Buddhist and Christian. She didn't love that answer.

 

So from the tenor of her questions, and her behaviour, my guess is she is looking for a long term relationship. I actually did not ask her outright, and nor did she.

25 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

How old are you?

 

I asked myself that while reading your posts. How old are you?

19 minutes ago, rattlesnake said:

 

I asked myself that while reading your posts. How old are you?

How old am I?, I'm old enough to know
The difference between infatuation
And a love that has a chance to grow
 

How old am I? 
If I make you happy today, I'm the perfect age
 

11 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

How old am I?, I'm old enough to know
The difference between infatuation
And a love that has a chance to grow
 

How old am I? 
If I make you happy today, I'm the perfect age
 

 

Thanks for your input.

3 hours ago, Cameroni said:

but she warned me she's cold, not very loving, that's her nature

 

Oh dear...

2 hours ago, rattlesnake said:

 

Thanks for your input.

 

he has mentioned it ...  

(i will whisper it to you later )

2 hours ago, Cameroni said:

 

It really is the luck of the draw. Pure chance. Yes, you can weed out obvious losers, druggies, fatties, sluts, but I'm talking the big normal pool. You are at the mercy of chance. Twice I had good luck. Then 3 times I had bad luck. You can't tell at the start, not even after years, sometimes. People change anyway.

 

 

Good taste.

 

 

It is the case that relationships, even with good people, run their course. They have a natural life span. When one of two partners feels they are no longer getting what they wanted. They will leave.

 

Though 5-10 seems short from y perspective. I aim for 12 to 20 based on experience. Hopefully longer for my last one, the CM girl.

 

 

What do you mean?

 

 

Because of course it's a different situation, she left her country and came to a strange land. There you're her only support. Of course she will make sure you're happy sexually from the start.

 

Here, with CM girl, it's very different. She doesn't need me at all. Well, not exactly. She needs me for something. Just not badly.

Well at that time, it was still older style. By phone, not smart phone or dating site internet, but just a voice on the phone making an add.

SO you didnt see who or what. A phone dating site , hahaha. You could choose serious or naughty.

As my aim is in fact for live and not some years. But for me now it seems an utopia, from past experiences.

The 3 exotic ladies seem to be in cheating. A miracle how to find out sometimes, by accident.

Cheating, lying isnt my standard in relation. So if it pops up, then it is for me the end.

 

I rather have a "slut " then. Never searched for one, but it seems they all are then? 

You come to question then what is a  slut? Your wife also gets paid and you can have maybe sex with her.

 

I cant, will not open up about what I mean with the Thai woman. It is weird, but for me not again, as maybe I was waiting on the weird stuff. It flows in automatically to me. Im now in between stopping or continu, but it will not be in the same way.

I swore this would be the last time for a relation. So now im up in what was and what showed up in the last 5 months , I was there.

Im damaged.

Btw next day the Thai woman arrived, I showed her police station, so if she had problems with something she could go there.

She didnt go there. Hey, you never know and we have another kind of police then Thailand.

 

I once had some contacts with other Thai women. One I could marry instantly, as long as I wanted to buy the house back which her father lost on a transaction. OK pass.

One who wanted to marry instantly, had kids, and was still married. Reason, as long she was married, she got money from him.

So only would make the switch by mariage to someone else instantly. From 1 moneybag to another. OK pass.

 

But ok also other way around,

Foreign guy married to Thai, was cheating and he told me, in time he wanted his wife to be in partner swapping or sex parties.

OK wrong guy to meet, live and let live, but..  

Or A Thai woman, I knew, married eventually an Aussie and left to Aussie land.

The Aussie was once married to a slut (tada he had one, money for sex) and had the same vision for the Thai woman.

His ex wife was a real prostitute.

She already should have sex with his friends ! I told her to buzz out quick, if she could.

I know, as she told me. Once gave her a phone ring and could reach her. 

No clue how all ended, we lost contact.

And so I can go on and on. You read, lived, heard, seen something. All is possible.

 

SO what are you going to do? She is young and maybe wants kids !

Being papa once again, may it work? Your timespan is 12-20 years, so the question could pop up.

Life, which path you choose?

 

37 minutes ago, rumak said:

 

he has mentioned it ...  

(i will whisper it to you later )

Thanks rumak, I have been informed by another source.

6 hours ago, BatteringRam said:

 

Oh dear...

 

Yes, I didn't like hearing that either. It was during our second date over dinner, she told me there are three bad sides to her. Overthinking, clean freak, and she's not a warm loving person, she wouldn't write sweet things and because of that most guys would give up eventually. Then she asked me what bad sides I had.

4 hours ago, xtrnuno41 said:

SO what are you going to do? She is young and maybe wants kids !

Being papa once again, may it work? Your timespan is 12-20 years, so the question could pop up.

Life, which path you choose?

 

If that question does arise, I would choose her. I would give her the children. Luckily I already have 2 children, so I know how wonderful it is, and not as terrible or hard as most people think who don't have them.

 

She's about the only person I can see I'd be willing to do it with. She is the most attractive woman I have ever met. And I met some amazing women. 

 

I would go all the way with her in a heartbeat. But it'll be a long road until then. I think.